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Consumers Flock to Weekend Shopping Boycott(Target Boycott and Lowe's sells "Holiday" Trees)
American Family Association ^ | November 22, 2005 | Jody Brown and Allie Martin

Posted on 11/22/2005 9:15:00 PM PST by avant_garde

AgapePress) - An official with a pro-family group reports that a boycott campaign aimed at Target Stores nationwide has succeeded in attracting hundreds of thousands of consumers who say they intend to shop elsewhere during what is traditionally the busiest shopping weekend of the year.

On Friday (Nov. 18) the American Family Association (AFA) launched on online boycott campaign against Target, citing the retailer's decision to ban Salvation Army kettles from their store entrances as well as the use of "Merry Christmas" in their in-store promotions and retail advertising. By the following Monday, almost 300,000 individuals had "signed" an online petition indicating they planned to express their disapproval of that decision by avoiding Target Stores during the upcoming Thanksgiving weekend. At press time, that number had jumped to more than 340,000

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: afa; antichristmas; boycott; boycottlowes; boycottm; boycotttarget; buybluedotcom; buybluedotorg; christmas; culturewar; culturewars; festivus; grinchstolechristmas; holidaytrees; kmart; lowes; marthastewart; merrychristmas; pc; politicalcorrectness; politicallycorrect; retail; target
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To: pageonetoo

The Three Wise Men brought the Baby Jesus what? Gifts.

Exchanging gifts with family is relevant.

I don't worship at Wal-Mart, Target or any place like that. I still don't see your point.


241 posted on 11/23/2005 8:13:35 AM PST by DaveMSmith (Thought from the eye closes the understanding, but thought from the understanding opens the eye. DLW)
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To: Poser
Were you under the impression that retailers were in business for some reason other than making a buck?

Retailing is all about "customer service" - giving the customer what they want is it not? When 8 out of 10 people walking through your front door are Christians and are looking for a gift to celebrate Christmas, why would a retailer go out of their way to alienate those customers???

As long as they are not denegrating my religion (and they are not), I won't hold it against them.

I'll part with my hard-earned money when that store doesn't decidely become pc and are shaking in their shoes that they're unable to say Merry Christmas!

242 posted on 11/23/2005 8:15:30 AM PST by PLOM...NOT! (Liberal activists are the paparazzi of politics)
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To: weegee

"That secular business holiday they celebrate is not what I celebrate"

Bingo. The Christmas, and to a lesser degree Thanksgiving, holidays that the retailers celebrate has absolutely nothing to do with Christmas. We should not hold it against them that they aren't putting the Christmas name on it.

In fact, it is probably a good thing that Christmas is being disassociated from the commercial shopping frenzy of late November and all of December.

If you need some stuff, go to Target and Lowes. If you don't need any stuff, don't go there. It's no different from any other time of the year.

About the Salvation Army. It does disappoint me that they aren't allowed at the doors. I think they are a worthy charity, probably the best. I for one, am sick to death of people begging for money at every store entrance. I doubled my check to the Salvation Army last year and will do so again this year. I hope they do well in their fund raising. I won't hold it against any store that does not want customers being bothered at their door.


243 posted on 11/23/2005 8:16:39 AM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Poser
The Chinese restaurant I go to does not celebrate Christmas.

Red herring. Nobody expects Chinese restaurants to celebrate Christmas for pete's sake. However, if a retailer is in the business to make money by selling products specifically designed to sell as Christmas items such as "trees", then they ought to be labelling them as such, wouldn't you say?!

244 posted on 11/23/2005 8:17:20 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: bulldozer

If a "church" wants to glorify a symbol, or graven image, as honor to him, I could care less. I don't think God finds any favor in doing so, and would be more proned to believe it is an abomination to him. IMO, if Jesus were here today, the last place you would find him is in your church, unless he was overthrowing the trinket tables and razing the shops.


245 posted on 11/23/2005 8:23:06 AM PST by blabs
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To: DaveMSmith
Three wise men ... exchanging gifts is relevant... I still don't see your point!

How does giving a new bike to your child, or a crock pot to your wife, relate to wise men worshipping God with gifts? You have obviously bought into the manufactured meaning of Christmas.

Where does God say "remember my birthday"? The only thing I can think of, that we are told to commemorate, is the Eucharist. You know, "this is My Body, this is My Blood"!

Maybe you are worshipping some false impression, of Baal, without realizing it.

Do you have any children? Do you teach your children that Santa comes down your chimney, to celebrate God's birthday?

246 posted on 11/23/2005 8:23:43 AM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: weegee

Exactly.


247 posted on 11/23/2005 8:24:19 AM PST by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: weegee

The sentiment is sincere.

These holidays all happen around the end of the year and are commercialized in that manner.

"Happy Holidays" does not automatically exclude Christmas or Thanksgiving or New Year's...but probably does exclude Halloween...that was a joke, it also probably excludes Kwanza because that's not real, and it also probably excludes Hannukah, my Jewish friend tells me that it is a remembrance more than a holiday and the memory is not a happy one, but a grateful one.


248 posted on 11/23/2005 8:25:57 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

"However, if a retailer is in the business to make money by selling products specifically designed to sell as Christmas items such as "trees", then they ought to be labelling them as such, wouldn't you say?!"

Uh... No. Not if they choose not to.

The tree is a pagan symbol anyway. It has nothing to do with Jesus Christ. Were there evergreens in Bethlehem?

I am, of course, being facitious and serious at the same time. The commercial shopping frenzy that we now call Christmas has nothing to do with Christianity. I find it ridiculous that we are offended when a retailer chooses not to call it Christmas. We seem to have come full circle. Or would that be half circle?


249 posted on 11/23/2005 8:26:57 AM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: avant_garde

I quit going to Lowe's years ago when I asked an employee there for help and they walked away from me. I've never had a problem once at Home Depot.


250 posted on 11/23/2005 8:31:06 AM PST by DarthDilbert
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To: DarthDilbert
I quit going to Lowe's years ago when I asked an employee there for help and they walked away from me. I've never had a problem once at Home Depot.

No fooling. In fact, I (a woman) was actually recruited to work there one day when another employee heard me talking about the nuances of some electrical supplies with my husband :-).

251 posted on 11/23/2005 8:40:26 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Poser

Hasn't Lowes been importing Holiday Trees to Bethlehem for 2000 years?

You can *call* Target and Lowes and ask them about their policies. C'mon...we're Freepers...we're good enough to verify facts before making decisions.

If you are mad at Target for cutting out bell ringers...go ahead. Same goes for Lowes. I respect and honor the conservatives on this website and do expect you guys to check your facts...it is that and nothing more that I request.

Happy Thanksgiving guys...and when the time comes...I'll wish you all a Merry Christmas. It seems a bit early right now to hold that sentiment honestly.


252 posted on 11/23/2005 8:40:44 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: pageonetoo

Have a Happy Holiday.


253 posted on 11/23/2005 8:49:32 AM PST by DaveMSmith (Thought from the eye closes the understanding, but thought from the understanding opens the eye. DLW)
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To: blabs
blabs quote:If a "church" wants to glorify a symbol, or graven image, as honor to him, I could care less. I don't think God finds any favor in doing so, and would be more proned to believe it is an abomination to him. IMO, if Jesus were here today, the last place you would find him is in your church, unless he was overthrowing the trinket tables and razing the shops.

Are you saying God has removed His presence from my church because it contains a Christmas tree?

254 posted on 11/23/2005 8:52:35 AM PST by bulldozer
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To: DaveMSmith

Merry Christmas to you!


255 posted on 11/23/2005 8:58:43 AM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

Well said words, sir/ma'am.


256 posted on 11/23/2005 9:15:48 AM PST by hyperconservative (I was too young to defend our troops in Vietnam,I'm quite old enough now)
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To: bulldozer
No, God's presence is not dependent on the graven images your church or any other church wishes to honor him with. I said that IMO, if Jesus were here today (in a physical form), you probably would not find him at your church, or most any other church for that matter, unless he were throwing over the sales tables, or chastizing the saducees and pharisees (read pastors and priests). You would more than likely find him in the alleys, or in the shelters, or in a bar collecting lost souls.

Are my words that difficult for you to understand? God doesn't care one iota for merchandising, cute sayings, graven images, finely adorned churches, and all of the other crap that surplants the pureness of christianity, including Christmas.
257 posted on 11/23/2005 9:17:04 AM PST by blabs
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To: blabs
blabs quote:No, God's presence is not dependent on the graven images your church or any other church wishes to honor him with. I said that IMO, if Jesus were here today (in a physical form), you probably would not find him at your church, or most any other church for that matter, unless he were throwing over the sales tables, or chastizing the saducees and pharisees (read pastors and priests). You would more than likely find him in the alleys, or in the shelters, or in a bar collecting lost souls. Are my words that difficult for you to understand? God doesn't care one iota for merchandising, cute sayings, graven images, finely adorned churches, and all of the other crap that surplants the pureness of christianity, including Christmas.

The Christmas tree in my church is not a graven image.

258 posted on 11/23/2005 9:19:41 AM PST by bulldozer
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To: bulldozer

Ok, it's an idol, idolized, set up to represent, whatever you want to call it. It has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus...


259 posted on 11/23/2005 10:04:14 AM PST by blabs
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To: avant_garde

I'm so sick of this garbage. Whichever store I see actively promoting Christmas is where I will spend my dollars. If I don't find one, the money is better spent by giving to Christian charities anyway.


260 posted on 11/23/2005 10:08:51 AM PST by djreece ("... Until He leads justice to victory." Matt. 12:20c)
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