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Kings David & Solomon Were Muslims
IMRA ^ | 11-21-05

Posted on 11/21/2005 5:31:54 PM PST by SJackson

MEMRI: Jordanian Prof/Terrorist on Saudi Al-Majd TV: Kings David & Solomon Were Muslims

Special Dispatch - Saudi Arabia/Antisemitism
Documentation Project
November 22, 2005
No. 1030
Jordanian Professor/Terrorist on Saudi Al-Majd TV Says Kings David & Solomon Were Muslims Who Today Would Have Fought Israel, Supports Leading Holocaust Denier

On November 13, 2005, Saudi Al-Majd TV aired an interview with Jordanian lecturer on religious law Sheikh Dr. Ahmad Nawfal. In the interview, Nawfal discussed Armageddon and quoted Roger Garoudy. Sheikh Dr. Nawfal is a lecturer at the Shari'a Faculty of the University of Jordan, and was associated with Sheikh 'Abdallah 'Azzam, the spiritual leader of the movement of Arab and Muslim volunteers for jihad in Afghanistan and the spiritual mentor of Osama bin Laden.(1) Nawfal has acknowledged collaborating with 'Azzam in launching jihad operations against Israel from Jordanian territory.

TO VIEW THIS CLIP GO TO:
http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=925 .

The following are excerpts from the interview:

Nawfal: "The Jews dug 40 meters into the ground, and found nothing. There is no indication that a temple existed there. Brothers, they are making fun of you. Unfortunately, we are unwittingly legitimizing this nonsense of theirs. This is nonsense. This is heresy and blasphemy against God, history, human beings, and common sense. We, unfortunately, are being swept along with the tide. And then we write books that give them legitimacy. This is strange.

"Sir, if David and Solomon were to return to life, these [Zionist] criminals would fight them and they would fight back. David and Solomon were among our ranks. If Solomon had a temple, we would be worshipping Allah in it. We would not be worshipping idols and polytheism in it, like they do.

[...]

"Armageddon is a word in English, and it has become a film of global proportions. They have inflated it to the point that it has become an actual belief. There are now dozens of millions of pro-Zionist Americans who believe that the temple should be founded on the ruins of Al-Aqsa, in order to hasten the coming of the Messiah - as if Allah accelerates his timetable on the basis of human deeds. Thus, they want to hasten the coming of the Messiah by accelerating the destruction of Al-Aqsa and the building of the temple on its ruins."

Television host: "How many people in the West are motivated by this belief?"

Nawfal: "Hundreds of millions."

Television host: "Hundreds of millions."

Nawfal: "Worse still, [they include] decision-makers. Reagan is one of those who believe in this, and now Bush has passed Reagan by light years in his belief in this. His campaign against us is not a transient, political issue. This issue is stuck in his head. It is their faith. Many pro-Zionist Christians are more extreme than Sharon, much more extreme.

[...]

"They believe that the decisive global war will take place on the Megiddo Plain. The film gave it all different dimensions - different metaphors and symbols... They are too sophisticated to say it straightforwardly. No, they hint at it. But ultimately, they have managed to plant in people's minds the belief in Armageddon."

[...]

Nawfal: "Roger Garoudy said: 'If we take the number of gas chambers and the maximal daily capacity of an oven, and multiply them by the period you Zionists, claim the Holocaust lasted - even if we multiply the number of ovens by the maximal [capacity], the figure is grossly exaggerated. The number of those burned [sic] was 600,000. You added another zero, and turned it into six million.'"

Endnote:
(1) See MEMRI Special Dispatch No. 848, "Al Hayat Inquiry: The City of Al-Zarqaa in Jordan - Breeding Ground of Jordan's Salafi Jihad Movement" January 17, 2005, http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP84805 .

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeology; history; islam; israel; kingdavid; kingsdavid; kingsolomon; religion
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To: SJackson
Kings David & Solomon Were Muslims

And Mohammad was a Baptist.

101 posted on 11/21/2005 8:56:15 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: SJackson

Oy vey.


102 posted on 11/21/2005 8:57:20 PM PST by Fintan (One of these days I'll tell you what I really think.)
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To: Fred Nerks
It was common I have read, that the arabs would promise the natives a trip to Mecca and load them onto the boats and the 'muslim convert to islam' simply never saw his family nor his/her homeland again.

What a foul, vicious canard! A Muslim NEVER lies to another Muslim. I have heard Muslims tell me so with my own ears! /sarc>

103 posted on 11/21/2005 9:18:21 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Fred Nerks
The Arabs considered anyone not a Muslim fair game for enslavement--black African, white European, Central Asian. Lots of Europeans, especially Slavs, ended up as slaves in the Middle East. The trans-Sahara slave trade was active for centuries, along with slave-raiding from the east coast of Africa. Ulcinj in Montenegro was a base for Turkish pirates who would make raids to capture slaves at least as late as the 18th century. Accepting inferior status as a dhimmi under Muslim rule was supposed to give protection, but the devshirme was the Turkish practice of enslaving Christian boys from villages in their empire.

Of course, we're only supposed to hear about the bad things Christians did to Muslims.

104 posted on 11/21/2005 9:29:17 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Thinkin' Gal; dennisw

This is just obscene...

105 posted on 11/21/2005 9:35:31 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Verginius Rufus

"After looking at some dozens of population estimates from a number of different kinds of sources we have an average, year in year out, especially between the years 1580 and 1680 of about 35,000, 34,000 slaves at any given time. Well, knowing this it then becomes a question of estimating simply how many slaves it would be necessary to be taken every year to keep that number. I’ve have estimated overall that between 1530 and 1780, that is about two and a half centuries, something of the order of a million to a million and quarter white Europeans were enslaved and taken to Barbary."

http://www.iconfilms.co.uk/whiteslaves/slaveindustry.html


106 posted on 11/21/2005 9:38:16 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Aussie Diggers and Marines Never Cut and Run; Cowards do!)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Islam is the origninal bait-and-switch cult. Be nice, tell lots of good lies, and take over when you reach critical mass.

You lost me on the "be nice" part of the equation.

107 posted on 11/21/2005 9:40:32 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: ApplegateRanch

Ah, but did they also tell you that people of colour are worth less than a camel? As far as the (Saudi)arabs are concerned, allah made the dark skinned people only for their use and pleasure.


108 posted on 11/21/2005 9:42:03 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Aussie Diggers and Marines Never Cut and Run; Cowards do!)
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To: Lijahsbubbe

"Be nice" is relative compared to how they will be if they take over.


109 posted on 11/22/2005 3:19:01 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: SJackson; Salem; Esther Ruth; F15Eagle; American in Israel; Alouette; agrace; RoadTest; Yehuda; ...
"Jordanian Professor/Terrorist on Saudi Al-Majd TV Says Kings David & Solomon Were Muslims"

Get outta here! Seriously?!!?!?!?! Puleeeeeze! I mean....King David and King Solomon were Muslims?!?!?!?!?!? Heeheehee. Heeheehee. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Cheap-pot-smoking barking moonbat fubarhead babble alert!


110 posted on 11/22/2005 5:02:40 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It really, truly is a "religion of peace", and the jihadistinian rioters in France prove it!)
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To: Convert from ECUSA
Their argument is that anyone who feared God before Muhammad issued the "final prophecy" is considered a Muslim.

Therefore, such individuals as Pope Leo the Great are, in theory, considered Muslims.

111 posted on 11/22/2005 6:01:05 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Jason_b
You wrote: "Are the islamics now claiming that islam always existed, that we just didn't know about it until the revelation of it to humans?"

Thre word "Islam" means "Submission." As I understand it, the Muslims claim that all of Creation is naturally under Islam --- that is, all created things are in submission to Allah. All wild animals are therefore Muslim, and every baby is born Muslim and remains so unless there is a deliberate apostasy: that is, if he affiliates with a different religion.

Some even go so far as to say that since Allah created the world for his ummah, his faithful community, non-Muslims are not only apostates, but thieves: breathing air they are not entitled to, taking up space they are not entitled to....

It's as totalitarian as it can possibly be, and there's a significant faction that are dead serious about it.

112 posted on 11/22/2005 6:14:19 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (False god. Big problem.)
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To: encm(ss)
You wrote: "Mohammed instituted Islam. So how could Kings David and then his son Solomon be muslim?"

They do not teach that Mohammad instituted Islam. They teach that Islam is the natural religion of every creature that exists. They teach that all people (from Adam onwards) are born Muslim and remain so unless they turn traitor. So yes indeed, they say that David and Solomon and in fact Jesus Christ were Muslims.

The lies are so ramifying and so comprehensive that it leads me to the suspicion that Mohammad was not just delusional, but demon-infested.

113 posted on 11/22/2005 6:24:03 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (False god. Big problem.)
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To: Fred Nerks
There is a recent book on this topic by Robert C. Davis, professor of history at Ohio State University: Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters: White Slavery in the Mediterranean, the Barbary Coast, and Italy, 1500-1800 (Palgrave Macmillan, 2004).
114 posted on 11/22/2005 6:34:57 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Jason_b
Forgive my ignorance. What years did David and Solomon live? Wasn't that quite before Mohammed's time?

Yeah, like 1600 years.

115 posted on 11/22/2005 6:38:28 AM PST by Sloth ("I don't think I've done a good job for 25 years" -- Mary Mapes. "I agree." -- Sloth)
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To: SJackson

I'm the Easter Bunny and the Santa.


116 posted on 11/22/2005 6:41:17 AM PST by bmwcyle (Evolution is a myth -- Libertarians just won't evolve into Conservatives.)
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To: SJackson

Hitler was a Muslim too...


117 posted on 11/22/2005 7:06:14 AM PST by Nachum
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118 posted on 11/22/2005 9:17:47 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Wednesday, November 2, 2005.)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

This week turkeys and moonbats will be barking..


119 posted on 11/22/2005 9:21:05 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: SJackson

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

Oh, that's a good one!

Mark


120 posted on 11/22/2005 9:33:02 AM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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