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To: FerdieMurphy
There is absolutely nothing good to be found in Islam or the Koran. The Koran is an evil collection of the meanderings of a sick, plageristic mind spewed forth to a people who are ignorant followers of a pervert.

Christianity has had some pretty sick, perverted days. On the other hand, Islam has had some pretty moderate times. I think it's more a question of nationalism and middle-eastern failure than a problem of religion. Any religion can be perverted by evil misfits.

7 posted on 11/19/2005 5:21:24 AM PST by bkepley
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To: bkepley

Christianity has never had a sick day in its life. What was done in the name of Christianity can be found no where in the New Testament (burning people at the stake, torture etc.) The Koran on the other hand and Islam itself is based upon such things.


9 posted on 11/19/2005 5:28:52 AM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: bkepley
Christianity has had some pretty sick, perverted days.

What are talking about? You can not point to ONE solitary thing in the New or Old Testament which directs anyone to do sick, perverted things?

Qualify your statement!

11 posted on 11/19/2005 5:31:11 AM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: bkepley
Christianity has had some pretty sick, perverted days.


The favorite and patented argument for C.A.I.R., Islamic militants, and radical leftist.


Taking a few radical leaders who forwarded a radical agenda buy hijacking Christianity can not be compared even remotely to the "sick perversions and violence" that your koran promotes and demands of its followers!
14 posted on 11/19/2005 5:38:42 AM PST by dagoofyfoot
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To: bkepley
"Any religion can be perverted by evil misfits."

Sure it can. But it has a head start when it's based on the largely incoherent ramblings of a megalomaniac who has no credentials as a "prophet" other then his self-appointment.

His first murder victims were Jews he he thought he could fool by incorporating some Old Testament into his ramblings. They knew the Torah well enough that they immediately saw him for the lying fool he was and laughed at him, and lo and behold he suddenly gets a "revelation" about how the Jews are enemies of his fledgling religion. Just as he got one revelation after another that put a stamp of approval on whatever personally benefited him at the moment.

Even his prepubescent last wife commented on how interesting it was that his revelations so conveniently coincided with whatever he wanted.

Too bad so many today don't have the benefit of the knowledge the Jews he murdered for recognizing him as a fraud had.

22 posted on 11/19/2005 5:56:42 AM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: bkepley
Christianity has had some pretty sick, perverted days.

You are mistaken, sir. The guiding principles of Christianity are succinctly stated (paraphrased) as “Love God with all your fiber” and “Love your neighbor as your self.” Nowhere in the guiding scriptures for Christianity is there any hint that followers should kill those who refuse to convert or commit any other act of violence against non-believers.

The same cannot be said for the guiding tenants of Islam. Muslims are commanded in the Koran to behead infidels and the only guaranteed path to heaven is martyrdom in physically fighting infidels.

Any religion can be perverted by evil misfits.

Apparently, your point was that, sometimes, those who call themselves Christians have perverted the tenants of that faith to justify committing acts of violence and depravity; no one can argue that there have been those who attempt to pervert any philosophy for their own ends. However, these depraved acts have always been condemned by the overwhelming majority of true followers of Christ who have the full support of the New Testament behind their condemnations.

Again, the same cannot be said of the followers of Islam.

I think it's more a question of nationalism and middle-eastern failure than a problem of religion.

I disagree vehemently. I challenge you to name a major “nationalist movement” (excluding any involving Muslims) that has employed “suicide bombers” to the vast extent that Islamist fascists have done. Let me extend the challenge to cite any modern “nationalist movement” that has used “fatwah’s” or “religious edits” to justify killing innocent non-combatants in attacks on targets with no military or political value. I think the only example you could use that would even come close would be the Japanese used of kamikaze tactics during WWII. Such would be a false analogy as that effort was not a “nationalist movement” and the attacks were restricted to those with obvious military value.

I submit that the logical conclusion from the facts I have cited as well as others in the news and recent history is far distant from your assertions.
27 posted on 11/19/2005 6:02:16 AM PST by Lucky Dog
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To: bkepley
Any religion can be perverted by evil misfits.

Maybe, but read theKoran and you realise that the slamofascists aren't 'perverting' it, rather they're living up to it. TheKoran and the Mein Kampf are pretty similar that way, though the Kampf doesn't have explicit lines telling everyone tokill infidels.
98 posted on 11/20/2005 12:49:02 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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