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Director Rob Reiner threatens hospitals on ballot issue
AP via Fresno Bee ^ | November 18, 2005 | MICHAEL R. BLOOD

Posted on 11/18/2005 6:37:03 PM PST by Amerigomag

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Hollywood director Rob Reiner warned the California Hospital Association Friday to withdraw or rewrite a ballot proposal it's pushing for 2006. "If the initiative remains in its current form, I will have no other option but to actively and aggressively oppose it," Reiner said in a letter to C. Duane Dauner, the association's president.

Reiner championed a 1998 ballot proposal slapping a 50-cents-a-pack tax on cigarettes to fund health and education programs for children up to 5 years old, now known as First 5 California. In his letter, Reiner argued the hospital proposal, which calls for a $1.50 tax on each pack of cigarettes to fund emergency rooms and other health programs, would slash First 5 funding. Reiner, who finds himself in the awkward position of arguing against a tax increase that could decrease smoking, pegged the loss at $34 million.

When asked if the hospitals' campaign would drop or revise its proposal considering Reiner's complaint, spokeswoman Kris Deutschman said, "We have to move forward with the priority of keeping emergency rooms open. We would invite and encourage all parties to come join us." In a later phone call, she said the group would be eager to discuss the issue with Reiner.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; dowdydoody; leftistidiot; leftistidiots; leftistweenies; meathead; pufflist; robreiner; usefulidiots; weenies
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To: ElkGroveDan

$10,000 remember...It's for the children


21 posted on 11/18/2005 9:20:05 PM PST by Valin (Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum)
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To: Lawgvr1955

They're (anti-smoking crusaders) definetly losing the battle. You got the high taxes on smokes and then you got the stupid cigarette smoking bans. Only a matter of time before cigarettes becomes part of the WOD, with BATF agents doing no-knock raids on suspected smokers.


22 posted on 11/18/2005 9:21:11 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (JOE WILSON IS A MUTHAFAKING LIAR)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Why only $1.50 per pack if it's such a good cause? Why not $2 or $5 or $30 per pack? Think of all the money they could raise!

They're working on it.

California Secretary of State - Elections & Voter Information - Initiative Update

1159. (SA2005RF0097)
Cigarette Tax. Initiative Constitutional Amendment and Statute.
Summary Date: 10/31/05
Circulation Deadline: 03/30/06
Signatures Required: 598,105
Proponent: Dorel Harms, RN
(916) 443-6972

Imposes additional 71/2 cent tax on each cigarette distributed ($1.50 per pack), and indirectly increases tax on other tobacco products. Tax revenues allocated to specified purposes, including private hospital and physician emergency services, indigent healthcare, breast cancer research, tobacco use prevention, tobacco smuggling prevention and nursing education.

Excludes tax revenue appropriations from constitutional appropriation limits and minimum school funding requirements (Proposition 98). Establishes criteria for receipt and use of tax revenues. Increases penalties for tobacco tax crimes. Provides that hospitals collaborating on emergency services are exempt from state antitrust laws.

Summary of estimate by Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local governments -- An increase in new state cigarette tax revenues of about $1.4 billion annually, declining slightly annually thereafter. Those revenues would be used for various health and education programs. Unknown but probably significant savings in state and local government health care costs over time due to expected reduction in consumption of tobacco products.

1160. (SA2005RF0098)
Tax on Cigarettes. Initiative Constitutional Amendment and Statute.
Summary Date: 10/31/05
Circulation Deadline: 03/30/06
Signatures Required: 598,105
Proponent: Charles G. Smith
(916) 442-2952
Imposes additional 5 cent tax on each cigarette distributed ($1.00 per pack), and indirectly increases tax on other tobacco products. Tax revenues allocated to specified purposes, including tobacco use prevention programs, enforcement of tobacco-related laws, and research, prevention and treatment of various conditions, including breast and cervical cancer, prostate cancer, heart disease, stroke, asthma, colorectal cancer and obesity.

Excludes tax revenue appropriations from constitutional appropriation limits, minimum school funding requirements (Proposition 98), and reduction by the Governor (Proposition 76).

Summary of estimate by Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local governments -- Increase in new state tobacco tax revenues of about $1 billion annually by 2007-08, declining slightly annually thereafter. Those revenues would be used for various health and tobacco-related programs. Unknown but probably significant savings in state and local government health care costs over time due to expected reduction in consumption of tobacco products and due to other factors.


23 posted on 11/19/2005 9:55:24 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: Amerigomag
Reiner championed a 1998 ballot proposal slapping a 50-cents-a-pack tax on cigarettes to fund health and education programs for children up to 5 years old

I wonder how Robbie would feel if I proposed a $1 tax on all movie tickets to help Iraq veterans and their families?

24 posted on 11/19/2005 10:00:09 AM PST by jeffc
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To: Amerigomag

"Reiner, who finds himself in the awkward position of arguing against a tax increase..."

Reiner. A colassal @$$hole.


25 posted on 11/19/2005 10:03:49 AM PST by Checkers (Hey GOP! Win the war, Confirm the judges, Cut the taxes, Control the spending & Shut the eff up!)
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To: SheLion; Gabz
A ping for a fight between the rabid anti-smokers of California.

It's Rob Reiner vs The Anti-Smokers Who Are Trying To Get The Money That Reiner Considers His.

Who will win the battle for the smokers' money?

;^)

26 posted on 11/19/2005 12:41:36 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: Amerigomag
"If the initiative remains in its current form, I will have no other option but to actively and aggressively oppose it," Reiner said in a letter to C. Duane Dauner, the association's president.

As much as I loathe Bill Maher; I get the impression Reiner is cruising for one of those 'Get Over Yourself' awards Maher used to hand out long ago.

27 posted on 11/19/2005 12:43:49 PM PST by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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To: DumpsterDiver; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; MeeknMing; steve50; Cantiloper; metesky; ...
It's Rob Reiner vs The Anti-Smokers Who Are Trying To Get The Money That Reiner Considers His.

ROBBER REINER'S LIES
AND HOLLYWOOD MONEY
WON AGAIN!

   

(Talk about Big Fat!)
Situational ethics?

When Reiner put River Phoenix in his movie, Stand By Me, and had him
smoke throughout, Phoenix was only 14 years old. Guess it's okay to
have kids smoke when it's for Reiner's benefit.

28 posted on 11/19/2005 1:52:18 PM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Amerigomag

Whores. All of them.


29 posted on 11/19/2005 2:14:55 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Lawgvr1955
I believe we are entering the death throws of taxation of tobacco.

I believe you're right. A real-life microcosmic demonstration of the Laffer Curve theory of taxation.

30 posted on 11/19/2005 2:17:35 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Amerigomag

Sounds like Meathead is in charge of things in Kalifornia.


31 posted on 11/19/2005 2:19:19 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lawgvr1955

I agree with you. We should all write to our respective Legislatures and tell them we quit, their own personal money tree has quit producing!It's dead! Roll your own if you have to for a month or 2.


32 posted on 11/19/2005 3:40:18 PM PST by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: Checkers
Reiner. A colassal @$$hole.

If was Archie Bunker, I'd have shot him in the A$$ with rock salt when he first wanted to date my daughter.

33 posted on 11/19/2005 4:00:09 PM PST by neverhome (If Michael Jackson eats a fruitcake... izzit cannilbalism???)
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To: Amerigomag; SheLion

I'm not from California---explain to me why the smokers have to pay for all of it?

Why penalize only the smokers?

Why not just increase the income tax or the sales tax?


34 posted on 11/19/2005 5:06:58 PM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen)
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To: DumpsterDiver
Who will win the battle for the smokers' money?

with any luck, the smokers.

35 posted on 11/19/2005 5:24:52 PM PST by Gabz
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To: SheLion

I am so frickin' sick and tired of this crapola, I can't see straight.

You and I have been saying it for how long now? It is ONLY about money. It has got not a single thing to do with "health" - except for the "health" of the wallets of the antis.


36 posted on 11/19/2005 5:27:31 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Mears
I'm not from California---explain to me why the smokers have to pay for all of it?
Why penalize only the smokers?
Why not just increase the income tax or the sales tax?

I'm in California and here's how I see it. There are more non-smokers than smokers. When there is something on the ballot that will only tax smokers, it gets passed by the people who will not be affected by it.

If a politician raises taxes on cigarettes he does it knowing there will be few recriminations from his constituents because most of them are non-smokers.

Smokers are out-numbered.

37 posted on 11/19/2005 5:47:12 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver

Oh,now I get it----tyranny of the majority.


38 posted on 11/19/2005 5:48:52 PM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen)
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To: Mears
tyranny of the majority.

Yep, and they are MEAN!

I have to go now and circulate some petitions to try and get junk food heavily taxed! For the good of the [fat] chiiiiildren.

;^)

39 posted on 11/19/2005 6:09:21 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver
I have to go now and circulate some petitions to try and get junk food heavily taxed! For the good of the [fat] chiiiiildren.

Please do.

40 posted on 11/19/2005 7:14:57 PM PST by Gabz
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