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IRAQ WAR SHOWDOWN ON HILL -- PULLOUT DEBATE ON CSPAN NOW - LIVE THREAD
drudge ^ | nov. 18, 2005 | Drudge

Posted on 11/18/2005 12:30:42 PM PST by blogblogginaway

Edited on 11/18/2005 12:41:17 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

GOP Pulls Fast One... Tells Dems: Pull Troops Now? Okay, then let's vote!!!!! Tonight. 7 p.m. in House... Ultimate showdown...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; beltwaywarzone; calltheirbluff; crazykucinich; cutandrun; defeatocrats; delay; democratmeltdown; devolve; dirtydims; gop; gwot; hypocrats; iraq; iraqwarshowdown; murtha; murtharesolution; nomorecnnsedition; standandeliver; stoptheleft; sunshinepatriot; vietnamsymdrome; votehillaryvote; waronterror
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To: JCEccles

I agree with your interpretation of that statement.


6,981 posted on 11/18/2005 8:39:18 PM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not an exit strategy." ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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To: mware

true but it was the basis for his running off at the mouth. now every time one of the rats talk negative about being in iraq, they are flip floppers by wanting to stay there. Brillant MOVE.


6,982 posted on 11/18/2005 8:39:26 PM PST by nascar242005
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To: bootless

I live by it...


6,983 posted on 11/18/2005 8:39:34 PM PST by ThomasPaine2000 (Peace without freedom is tyranny.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm sorry, but Mr Murtha is a kindly old soul suffering from battle fatigue. His last was simply an emotional outburst that has nothing whatsoever to do with winning the war in Iraq.

My husband and I were saying something similar to your thoughts. He's an old man, he wandered so, his heart may still be in great working order, but his mind won't win the war in Iraq, nor the War on Terror. God save us from emotional people. What we need are brains....and bravery.

6,984 posted on 11/18/2005 8:39:40 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: Purrcival

Yeah, and they've since vanished... someone else posted something to that effect, too. There are so many strange procedural rules, I wasn't going to be surprised if that was the case.


6,985 posted on 11/18/2005 8:39:40 PM PST by cyn
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To: rightinthemiddle

Thanks for the tonight. This reminds me of the Election Night thread last year. We can't be stopped if we're working together.

I think the Base...is Back.


Most of us never left. Thank YOU Republican CONGRESS.


6,986 posted on 11/18/2005 8:39:40 PM PST by JFC (W, I am with YA)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll608.xml

Not a surprising result.


6,987 posted on 11/18/2005 8:39:48 PM PST by HarryCaul
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To: NormsRevenge

Good One!


6,988 posted on 11/18/2005 8:39:53 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: nutmeg

God Bless America. Prayers for the safety of our troops and for their peace of mind secure in the knowledge that we honor their service and sacrifice and support them in all they do without reservation.


6,989 posted on 11/18/2005 8:39:54 PM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: DollyCali

The MSM will report Three brave Mavericks stand up against the stampede. The three will be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.


6,990 posted on 11/18/2005 8:39:58 PM PST by pieces of time
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To: rwilson99
So this was only 400 votes, pretty close right?

"We demand a recount!"

6,991 posted on 11/18/2005 8:40:01 PM PST by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: Timeout

> Neither interviewer asked what he meant. Does he want to station them back in Saudi Arabia? Jordan (get real). Turkey...oops, already tried that

In his harangue, he first said that we didn't send enough troops in there to do the job (and that is why he is for the draft), but in the next breath, he says that our presence there is seen as an lethal irritant, and so we need to get out now.

So, which is it? Would more troops have been better or worse? According to Murtha, yes and yes, or is it no and no?


6,992 posted on 11/18/2005 8:40:04 PM PST by XEHRpa
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To: cyberian_cartoon

Oh I feel great too. Totally sweet. I love that the Rats suffered this defeat.


6,993 posted on 11/18/2005 8:40:11 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: All


voting procedures see electonic voting..

http://legis.state.sd.us/sessions/2005/houserules.pdf

also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recorded_vote


Regardless of how the House arrives at a recorded vote, it is taken in one of three ways:

Calling the roll: The Speaker may ask the Clerk to call the Roll of members, as in the Senate. However, this procedure is reserved for formal votes, considering the amount of time consumed by calling over four-hundred names.
Teller vote: The House may hold a teller vote, in which each member signs a green card for "Aye," a red card for "No," and an orange card for "Present" (an abstention), and hands it to a Clerk, who counts the votes.
Vote by electronic device: The House may vote by electronic device. Members vote by inserting a plastic voting card, which doubles as a photo ID, into terminals located on the backs of seats in the House chamber. The member presses a red button to vote "No, "a green button to vote "Aye," and a yellow button to vote "Present." Members' names are displayed on a blue, backlit panel above the Speaker's chair, and when a member votes, a red, green, or yellow light appears adjacent to his or her name. Displays on the side walls of the chamber display a running vote total.
The recorded vote remains open for fifteen minutes, after which Members may vote in the same manner as in a teller vote, i.e., by signing a card and handing it to the Clerk, or by announcing their votes to the Clerk, but not by electronic device, until the Speaker announces the result. Sometimes an important vote will be held open by the presiding officer (the Speaker or the Speaker's delegate), for much longer, so party leaders can have time to convince members to change their votes. The longest ever recorded vote was held in the early hours of November 22, 2003, when the Republican Party (United States) held a vote on a Medicare bill open for approximately three hours, during which the President personally worked to convince two Republicans who had voted "No" to change their votes to "Aye."


6,994 posted on 11/18/2005 8:40:11 PM PST by rolling_stone (Question Authority!)
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To: JFC

Let's hope this starts a trend!


6,995 posted on 11/18/2005 8:40:13 PM PST by golas1964 ("He tasks me... He tasks me, and I shall have him!")
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To: golas1964

I have been watching this tonight and wondering what Rush is thinking...I'll be listening with you!

Maybe have to make it on 24/7 but that is why I have it!


6,996 posted on 11/18/2005 8:40:14 PM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: Soul Seeker

Freep this poll:
http://www.wjactv.com/station/1960993/detail.html


6,997 posted on 11/18/2005 8:40:16 PM PST by AliVeritas (''I'd rather have Jihadis in front of me than Democrats behind me.'' Go GOP!)
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To: antceecee; nutmeg
Amen!! God Bless Our Troops, Our President, Our Country!! But in particular our Troops...Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!
May HE watch over and protect you!!!
6,998 posted on 11/18/2005 8:40:17 PM PST by FlashBack (When I grow up I wanna be a coWboy.)
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To: WakeUpAndVote
"WHO VOTED YEA?"

And who voted present?

6,999 posted on 11/18/2005 8:40:17 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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To: cyberian_cartoon
"Rep. Marsha Blackburn , R-Tenn., said of the Democrats."

I liked her and that Woman from OHio who made the cut and run quip. The Repub women done the the party proud today.

7,000 posted on 11/18/2005 8:40:20 PM PST by joebuck
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