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IRAQ WAR SHOWDOWN ON HILL -- PULLOUT DEBATE ON CSPAN NOW - LIVE THREAD
drudge ^ | nov. 18, 2005 | Drudge

Posted on 11/18/2005 12:30:42 PM PST by blogblogginaway

Edited on 11/18/2005 12:41:17 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

GOP Pulls Fast One... Tells Dems: Pull Troops Now? Okay, then let's vote!!!!! Tonight. 7 p.m. in House... Ultimate showdown...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; beltwaywarzone; calltheirbluff; crazykucinich; cutandrun; defeatocrats; delay; democratmeltdown; devolve; dirtydims; gop; gwot; hypocrats; iraq; iraqwarshowdown; murtha; murtharesolution; nomorecnnsedition; standandeliver; stoptheleft; sunshinepatriot; vietnamsymdrome; votehillaryvote; waronterror
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To: Gideon7

Exactly, using the troops (whom he wants to redeploy... even though he wants them out because they have no equipment and can't win... gives him away there). This is about pork and I have never seen such.

Negotiate? Um... like over 12 resolutions and waiting while the UN spends terrorist money and make deals with the enemy while giving them weapons? The Clinton negotiation policy obviously didn't work.


5,401 posted on 11/18/2005 7:28:24 PM PST by AliVeritas (''I'd rather have Jihadis in front of me than Democrats behind me.'' Go GOP!)
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To: armymarinemom

I'm tired of that guy. All I hear is Mutha, Murtha, Murtha.


5,402 posted on 11/18/2005 7:28:24 PM PST by prouddvldog
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To: blogblogginaway

THE RATS CAN NEVER SIT AND STFU....


5,403 posted on 11/18/2005 7:28:28 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Wolfstar

"He's been in congress for over 20 years and this is the first we're hearing from him?"

Not really. He was one of the five Democrats nabbed in ABSCAM.

The other high point of his brilliant Congressional career.


5,404 posted on 11/18/2005 7:28:30 PM PST by Sam Hill
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To: maxter

Actually Murtha's speech was very impressive. Thank goodness that no one is watching. I disagree with his overall conclusion, but Murtha raised some damn good points about lack of supplies, resources stretched thin, etc. The jury is still out on Rumsfeld (though I'm not about to trash him and he could end up being proven right, there are legitimate questions about his strategy.) Murtha may well have popped off to preemptively get some cover before a scandal breaks out. Or maybe his concerns are 100% legitimate. I don't know, and still support the President, but he can't be dismissed simply as an ineffective lightweight (unlike many of the nasty catcalling yahoo's over on the Dem side of the aisle.)


5,405 posted on 11/18/2005 7:28:31 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Windcatcher
Either way Murtha is a disgrace and is finished.
5,406 posted on 11/18/2005 7:28:32 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: StarFan
Frankly I never heard the name Murtha until yesterday and wondered why one congressman, whose opinion I did not respect, warranted as much coverage as he got for denouncing the war. After listening to him speak, I still question what the fuss is about. He's been in congress for over 20 years and this is the first we're hearing from him?

Then you were out of it. Jack Murtha was a MAJOR proponent of Gulf War I -- more so than anyone on the Democrat side except for Stephen Solarz. Without the support of him and other Democrats, we could not have gone to war -- we didn't have the House back then, remember.

He's wrong now, but he has been staunch many, any times in the past. That's why his voice means more than the CBC and all of the 'Rat leadership put together.

5,407 posted on 11/18/2005 7:28:40 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (Member of the "JimRob Mob" -- I Love Free Republic!)
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To: tirednvirginia
Yes, but are any Republicans going to get to speak?

Murtha can yield the remainder of his time, the Republicans get to go with one person for x minutes/seconds, then Murtha goes again or yields to another Democrat or reserves, when Republicans go again.

-PJ

5,408 posted on 11/18/2005 7:28:43 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: advance_copy

...and as Rush always reminds us: We were not in Iraq on 9-11.


5,409 posted on 11/18/2005 7:28:54 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Txsleuth
Mort Kondrake even admitted on Brit's show that the dems would rather lose the war...and beat Bush...than the other way around.

Just imagine belonging to a party that hopes for the death of our military men and women.

5,410 posted on 11/18/2005 7:29:03 PM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not an exit strategy." ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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To: A.Hun

Nope, I left after listening to Weldon for a few minutes. I thought I was in Oz. I had to look over my shoulder to make sure it was Weldon speaking. When I saw it was, I put on the cartoon, Kim Possible.


5,411 posted on 11/18/2005 7:29:04 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Pharmboy

Dam Right!


5,412 posted on 11/18/2005 7:29:28 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: jackv

The reason the mute button was invented was so that we didn't have to listen to RATS on TV. :)


5,413 posted on 11/18/2005 7:29:29 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Howlin

OK, I'm back. So has anything happened, has Barney Frank finally come out of the closet?

With all those democrats in one place, what a great time for an exorcism.


5,414 posted on 11/18/2005 7:29:40 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Mo1

Murtha was involved with ABSCAM ???


I believe I read earlier he was an unindicted co-conspirator.


5,415 posted on 11/18/2005 7:29:46 PM PST by hipaatwo (Denny Crane!)
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To: Pharmboy

THe DEMOCRATS are keeping their own time, and whenever someone hits their time, the dems are all chanting "over" "over" as soon as they think they are over.

THe official time is in the chair, and they are being little babies.


5,416 posted on 11/18/2005 7:30:03 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: All

I tell you what. We need someone who has fire and brimstone coming out their mouth. Bill Young just ain't doing it. BTW, CNN is showing a story about the CA fires.


5,417 posted on 11/18/2005 7:30:07 PM PST by old_sage_says (Reading FreeRepublic each day is as normal to me as my "morning constitutional".)
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To: JerseyDvl

I thought he did............duh.


5,418 posted on 11/18/2005 7:30:13 PM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not an exit strategy." ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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To: Wolfstar
he is senile!!

"All joking aside, I have wondered if this might be the case."

I was thinking he reminded me of poor old Adm. Stockdale during the '92 VP debates...a guy well past his sell-by date.

5,419 posted on 11/18/2005 7:30:14 PM PST by DawesRidesAgain (Know the press for the Fifth Columnists that they are!)
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To: Blurblogger
I just keep watching this in snips...elsewise, I think that my head would explode. This is THE worst garbage, I think that I have ever heard from elected officials of any kind.

Are the French writing the Dems' speeches?

5,420 posted on 11/18/2005 7:30:24 PM PST by nopardons
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