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Out of water and panicking after being lost for 11 hours

Martinez, delirious and unable to walk, had to be dragged and carried

What about the ol' fire 3 shots, wait, fire 3 more?

In any case this goon out to be banned from going into a wilderness for life.

How about a couple of years for being REAL stupid?

Panicked after 11 hours? What a wuss. What a dumb bass.

As a kid in Tennessee, my friends and I would go camping in the local woods for days with just an old army pup tent, sleeping bags, some food and water, a Scout knife and if we were lucky, some fireworks to blow stuff up with.

Our parents never worried, heck they didn't even care if we were gone. It was a different era. It was the pre- trophy children era.

most of the 16 people who testified blamed government agencies for the spread of the fire, saying they did not react quickly enough.
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Much of the testimony from victims yesterday centered on the government's response, or lack of one.

Witnesses challenged official accounts of when the fire began, why air crews didn't drop water or fire retardant on it early and how firefighters on the ground acted.

"He started the fire; our firemen let it burn way out of control," said Dona Schneider, who lost her Fernbrook home near Ramona and a friend who was killed in the fire. "I lost my life, but it wasn't because of Sergio."

Several witnesses said they were part of the Committee for Full Accountability on the Cedar Fire, a group of Ramona and Julian residents who said federal, state and local agencies have covered up a bungled response to the fire.

Buried in the 10th and 30th-33rd paragraphs: the fact that most people still want an investigation into the coverup of the horrendous mismanagment that allowed the fire to become so devastating.

Witnesses called 911 to report the fire just after 4 PM (or earlier). The official account says that the first 911 call occurred after 5:30PM. Firefighting aircraft were not used the first day because someone made a decision that it was too close to darkness to start flying (hence the need to define the later 911 call as the excuse). That first evening, the fire spread out of control and could not be contained for many days.