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WOODWARD COULD KO CASE VS. SCOOTER
NY Post ^ | 11-17-05 | DEBORAH ORIN

Posted on 11/17/2005 5:10:51 AM PST by veronica

November 17, 2005 -- CALL it "Deep Throat 2." The CIA-leak probe is in big trouble because superstar reporter and Watergate hero Bob Woodward has emerged as a surprise witness for the defense — potentially undermining the case against ex-White House aide Scooter Libby.

Woodward yesterday revealed that he's told prosecutors he could be the first reporter to learn from a Bush administration source that Iraq war critic Joe Wilson's wife worked as a CIA analyst — but Libby wasn't his new "Deep Throat."

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1 posted on 11/17/2005 5:10:52 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica

That's nice, except Libby isn't charged with leaking the information, but rather, he was charged with lying to prosecutors and the DA about something that wasn't a crime in the first place. The fact that someone else might have leaked the name is irrelevant.


2 posted on 11/17/2005 5:13:59 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

I agree.

I don't see the significance of Woodward claiming he got the same information from another administration source.


3 posted on 11/17/2005 5:16:27 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Labyrinthos
That's nice, except Libby isn't charged with leaking the information, but rather, he was charged with lying to prosecutors and the DA about something that wasn't a crime in the first place. The fact that someone else might have leaked the name is irrelevant

Uh wrong this puts cyclops fitz's timeline all wrong and Libby's defense attorneys will have a field day pointing that out.

4 posted on 11/17/2005 5:17:20 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Labyrinthos; veronica

Fitzgerals isn't so stupid as to realize the American people will be up in arms over perjury charges to a case that is really a non-case. If there was no leak, then, how can Libby be indicted for lying? All it comes down to is a case about a person getting the dates wrong. It's too obvious that Libby didn't out anyone, so why would he cover-up something that never existed in the first place?


5 posted on 11/17/2005 5:18:07 AM PST by Jaidyn
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To: veronica

But does this mean that Woodward is participating in a plan to bring down another person who is even higher?

This stinks.

In all honesty, Woodward is the poster boy of the left.


6 posted on 11/17/2005 5:18:23 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: veronica

The left is salivating in hopes that Woodward got the information from Rove. However, this is tempered by the fact that, if nothing else, Woodward will protect his sources.


7 posted on 11/17/2005 5:19:09 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Labyrinthos; dennisw; SJackson; Liz

I think it speaks to the fact that Libby's recollections might honestly be muddled, that he didn't lie under oath, and that this whole case in fact is a muddle. And to evoke an old quote, where does Libby go to get his reputation back? Not just among Democrats and the MSM, but others who have attacked him viciously?


8 posted on 11/17/2005 5:21:57 AM PST by veronica (What will "Ronnie" think? The question that obsesses the internut clowns...)
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To: Labyrinthos
That's nice, except Libby isn't charged with leaking the information, but rather, he was charged with lying to prosecutors and the DA about something that wasn't a crime in the first place. The fact that someone else might have leaked the name is irrelevant.

Then how did he lie when the media knew before anyone in Libby's office knew. It means he could well have learned about her from a reporter first.

9 posted on 11/17/2005 5:23:44 AM PST by McGavin999 (Reporters write the Truth, Journalists write "Stories")
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To: veronica

Oh I agree with you on that issue, but the "muddled recollection defense" is compelling even without Woodward's latest revelation.


10 posted on 11/17/2005 5:24:12 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: wagglebee

I believe Rove's lawyers have unequivocally denied that he is Woodward's source. Also, Rove has been very visible lately. Common sense tells me that he doesn't expect to be indicted, which is why he feels comfortable back in the spotlight.


11 posted on 11/17/2005 5:24:59 AM PST by veronica (What will "Ronnie" think? The question that obsesses the internut clowns...)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Woodward states that He "may" have told Libby about Plame. That woyld serve to at least cast doubt on the assertion that Libby lied about where he heard of Plame and her "job"


12 posted on 11/17/2005 5:25:49 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: veronica

Chris Matthews was deeply, deeply disappointed last night on Screwball.


13 posted on 11/17/2005 5:26:36 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: veronica
The guys on Hume's show on FNC last night were saying that Woodward characterized his source as a former administration official.
14 posted on 11/17/2005 5:26:37 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: McGavin999; All
Yup. Can anyone come up with a one liner similar to "If the glove don't fit you must acquit" using the word indict? Can't come up with one on this end. :)
15 posted on 11/17/2005 5:27:03 AM PST by Chgogal (Viva Bush, the real revolutionary. We're winning the WOT in Iraq! Goodbye Che. Hello W!)
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To: veronica

Facts are irrelevant to this witch hunt.


16 posted on 11/17/2005 5:27:40 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Labyrinthos
I've about reached the point of arguing with people about what the indictment stands for. Most posters here are convinced that the entire case boils down to reporters' word v. Libby, or some variation on a timeline theme.

Persistently overlooked is Libby's decision to independently inquire of the CIA and obtaining of authoritative knowledge, in adavance of conversations with reporters, and in advance of his statements and testimony.

17 posted on 11/17/2005 5:27:58 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Labyrinthos

Woodward also says he may have told Libby the name, but can't remember if he did. So we drag the most famous reporter to court have him say he can't recall and he may be mistaken. Then ask if he thinks he should be charged for perjury. Everyone laughs and then the jury realizes that's the same thing Libby is being accused of, so they won't convict him.


18 posted on 11/17/2005 5:28:16 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Labyrinthos; cyncooper; Howlin

True for Libby, but we should also remember the other part of Woodward's story--that he supposedly heard about Plame from another "highly placed" official in the admin. What official? Are they gunning for Rove again, or have they set their sites on Cheney now? I don't trust this development at all.


19 posted on 11/17/2005 5:29:23 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: McGavin999
Then how did he lie when the media knew before anyone in Libby's office knew. It means he could well have learned about her from a reporter first.

That was my thoughts too. And he can say he made a mistake thinking it was Tiny Tim when in reality it was Woodward.

What concerns me is as follows.

Based on the indictment, I think Fitz will also use a number of documents and telephone calls that show Libby contacting the CIA et.al. to get the information on Plame. I think Fitz will say that Libby should have told investigators how he found out about Plame through Libby's own investigation rather than telling investigators that he had heard it from a news reporter.

Just my thoughts. I just hope Libby's defence team can utterly destroy this Fitz case.

20 posted on 11/17/2005 5:29:32 AM PST by hawkaw
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