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Angry Moms Boycott Eatery That Asks Kids To Keep Quiet
NBC TV NEWS ^ | 11-12-2005

Posted on 11/14/2005 5:51:48 AM PST by Cagey

Parent Says Restaurant Offers Kid Food, So It Should Cater To Kids

"We were surprised at how many times we would see children really out of control," McCauley said. "And we actually had people leaving the bakery because the children were so out of control."

So, he put a sign on the door at kids' eye-level, asking children of all ages to use their "indoor voices."

"We thought it was just a friendly reminder to people that when they come here, just be considerate of the people around them. We had no idea the kind of controversy that was going to explode out of this," McCauley said.

But some parents who spoke with NBC5's Natalie Martinez took immediate offense to the sign. The angry mothers said there are plenty of places in the Andersonville neighborhood where they can take their kids, even if they're acting out.

"I've e-mailed friends and said, 'Just so you know, this man has a sign up. I know there are lots of other options, and I'd encourage you not to go there,'" parent Kate Bremmer said.

When she spoke with Martinez, Bremmer and her kids were picking out goodies at a Swedish bakery, where all kids are welcome.

"Our custom has been to offer a cookie to every child that comes into the store for as long as I can remember," said Kathy Stanton-Cromwell, the co-owner of the bakery, which is just a few doors down from A Taste of Heaven.

Stanton-Cromwell said the cookie serves as "a good calmer" for kids who are acting up.

Bremmer said A Taste of Heaven "is not a five-star restaurant," so she thinks it should cater to kids, not the other way around.

"They offer ice cream cones and cookies and lots things that kids love, and therefore, I don't think that they should make such an issue of it," Bremmer said.

Other parents enjoying lunch with their kids at A Taste of Heaven were more diplomatic.

"I have mixed feelings about it. It's a little off-putting," one mother said.

Linda Wallace, also a mother who eats at A Taste of Heaven, said she thought McCauley was "sort of brave" for putting up the sign.

"It did cross my mind that he might offend some people," she said.

McCauley said he loves kids, although he has none of his own. He said he has no immediate plans to take the sign down.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: parenting
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

I was a school bus driver for 1 year, (not enough money to make me do that again).

Had a 14 year old little b..... that was a pain in the assets. She started acting up one afternoon and refused to responed to my directions. I started turning the bus around to go back to school.

The other kids resolved the problem very quickly.


261 posted on 11/14/2005 8:33:42 AM PST by T Wayne
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To: sittnick
...have two daughters, four and one year olds. As long as I get a legit chance to correct an outbreak (of which there are VERY few), I not only understand, but appreciate this fellow's efforts to reinforce my desire to teach my children to be civilized. I hate it when I have to explain to my children that some children act up and don't get punished because their parents are not considerate of other people.

Parents like you are always welcome. Sometimes kids act up, and responsible parents deal with it. The problem is always those parents who think the only "rights" in an establishment belong to their children.

262 posted on 11/14/2005 8:33:58 AM PST by GOPJ (Frenchmen should ask immigrants "Do you want to be Frenchmen?" not, "Will you work cheap?")
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To: T.Smith

My son is well behaved in public because of the parenting at home. When he is at home is when he is testing the limits.


263 posted on 11/14/2005 8:36:41 AM PST by kx9088
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To: HowDidIGetHere?

Parenting is different from politics. I can vote out bad candidates (if I don't live in Detroit or another major metropolitan area controlled by Democats).

I can't vote out bad parenting.

JILL :}


264 posted on 11/14/2005 8:37:15 AM PST by HowDidIGetHere? (Faithful lurker for years and years...)
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To: xsmommy

The problem here is that I have yet to hear "Well, one time my child started getting out of control and this is what I did to reel him back in..."

All I hear is "My kids are well behaved where ever we go..." etc.

Like I said, FR is a gold mine for perfect parents and perfect kids. Obviously the rest of us are horrible parents because are kids don't always go by the rules.


265 posted on 11/14/2005 8:39:49 AM PST by kx9088
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To: Flavius
It always amazes me when people go to public places and expect "peace and quiet". Try a 5 star restaraunt, or better yet your local library. and eat your cookies and ice cream at home. simple solution.

Yet some people think chilren don't have the right to be children and go thru the usual growing up learning that comes with public road trips. What next..make sure you give your kid a chill pill before they leave the house. SHEEEEEZ

266 posted on 11/14/2005 8:41:05 AM PST by marty60
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To: HowDidIGetHere?

you as an individual can't vote anyone out. it is collective electoral strength that votes in candidates. collective societal pressure to require parents to actually PARENT would be equally possible. the guy in this article, putting up his sign in his eatery is making his little stab at it.


267 posted on 11/14/2005 8:41:07 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Cagey

Has anyone voted in the poll on the website listed? It is about time that store owners take back control of their businesses. I have been to some places where the racket was so loud, we could not hear what others were saying. Then there is one place in town which caters to families but the parents are in control of their children and you can eat in peace.


268 posted on 11/14/2005 8:41:57 AM PST by MamaB (mom to an Angel)
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To: brytlea

Sometimes, rarely though. I can say that there was a time or two where I have said "Now Karina, you have to be respectful of other people that are here at the restaurant, so please be quite."

She just looked at me funny and laughed.


269 posted on 11/14/2005 8:42:33 AM PST by kx9088
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To: kx9088

Well, kids learn what we teach them. What can I say?
susie


270 posted on 11/14/2005 8:43:58 AM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracty theorist....really.)
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To: HowDidIGetHere?
It is statistically impossible for this many perfect parents to be in one place at one time :}

No one's asking for "perfection". They're asking for parents to act like grownups. When you take a child to a store, you tell the child before you leave what to expect, what will happen, and when you'll be coming home. You also tell them how they can act. I know this sounds silly, but it works. Also, when asking a child to do something, give them a choice of two things (both acceptable to the parent) and let them experience some control over their little lives. It's not hard to love them and allow them to be lovable.

There's nothing crueler to a child than to raise them in such a way that only a mother can love them...

271 posted on 11/14/2005 8:44:58 AM PST by GOPJ (Frenchmen should ask immigrants "Do you want to be Frenchmen?" not, "Will you work cheap?")
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To: kx9088

if you don't see the problems out there with children leading their parents around by the nose and calling the shots in the parent-child relationships, i can't help you. THAT Is what is being discussed here. you say your kids behave in public, so why are you being defensive?


272 posted on 11/14/2005 8:46:49 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: marty60
Yet some people think chilren don't have the right to be children and go thru the usual growing up learning that comes with public road trips. What next..make sure you give your kid a chill pill before they leave the house. SHEEEEEZ

Kids don't learn by being allowed to scream and holler and run around like nuts in public. They learn by having the adults in their lives stop them from such foolishness and give them the negative consequences (which will vary according to the child and their age).

For some kids, being kids will include pushing your child down and taking away his/her cookie. Is that acceptable since they're just doing what kids do?

273 posted on 11/14/2005 8:46:50 AM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracty theorist....really.)
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To: jasoncann

We were out of town for the weekend last week and we went to Cracker Barrel for breakfast. 2 little kids pounding on the table with knives. It was very annoying and we couldn't get of there fast enough. My children were very well behaved when they were little kids and I just don't understand why those children were allowed to pound on the table with knives, forks, etc. Mom and Dad just sat there, did nothing and continued to eat their food. I guess it's just a new generation. UGH!


274 posted on 11/14/2005 8:50:25 AM PST by Lovergirl (Chicago native living in Southern Indiana.)
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To: Dallas59

The lady next door stood with a broom at the edge of the walk to make sure the kids didn't go on her lawn. Of course, when she wasn't around, I made a point of stepping on it. When I made my first confession at age 7, I confessed to stepping on Mrs. Cullian's lawn.......500 times.


275 posted on 11/14/2005 8:50:46 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: NRA1995
Sorry, but I've had my fill of going somewhere for coffee or lunch and dealing with screaming kids running around and their parents not wanting to be "authority figures".

Quoted for truth.

276 posted on 11/14/2005 8:52:36 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: MamaB
Has anyone voted in the poll on the website listed?

"Do you think A Taste of Heaven was right to post its sign asking kids to use their "indoor voices?" "

Yes -- 2587 votes -- 97%

No -- 84 votes -- 3%

277 posted on 11/14/2005 8:52:46 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: brytlea

You gotta be kidding me? You think that my 1-year-old daughter doing what babies do is doing so because that's what I'm teaching her?

Or did I just misconstrue what you said?


278 posted on 11/14/2005 8:53:26 AM PST by kx9088
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To: xsmommy

Because my kids don't always behave in public. I'm saying they are not perfect. The fact is: Kids will be kids, they have their own little minds and sometimes they might do things that you don't want them to when you least expect it.


279 posted on 11/14/2005 8:54:52 AM PST by kx9088
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To: Dallas59

bump the indoor voice


280 posted on 11/14/2005 8:59:45 AM PST by Taffini (My cat hates your cat)
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