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Has the Biblical Goliath Been Found?
IMRA ^ | November 10, 2005

Posted on 11/10/2005 4:37:28 AM PST by SJackson

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To: null and void
Which brings me to one of my hobbt horses:

You have hobbit horses?

That is so cool!

61 posted on 11/10/2005 7:54:58 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Paging Nehemiah Scudder:the Crazy Years are peaking. America is ready for you.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Grrrrrrrrrrr!


62 posted on 11/10/2005 7:56:25 AM PST by null and void (No individual ant bite is enough to kill a worm...)
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To: SJackson

I had heard that the 'giants' of Bible lore are being equated to dinosaur bone-fossils.


63 posted on 11/10/2005 8:00:21 AM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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64 posted on 11/10/2005 8:00:22 AM PST by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: Maury

Not much different than say the Chinese who are known to record time via the different dynasties. Different peoples record time differently. BCE and CE is a more universal way of recording time... like using the metric system for measurements instead of Biblical cubits.


65 posted on 11/10/2005 8:08:11 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: SJackson

Perhaps the anti BCE CE people would have prefered Jewish (or Israeli) scientists to use something like 13 Adar 2500 (making a number and date up) it is the correct way to mention the date, who to say the Jewish calendar is the wrong way to notate.


66 posted on 11/10/2005 10:12:14 AM PST by StuLongIsland
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To: Designer; NC28203; Dustbunny; Maury; Drawsing
What's with this 'BCE' and 'CE' dating crap?...On second thought, it is most likely the Socialist/Communist/Liberals trying to wipe GOD and any reference to Jesus out of our culture….That's exactly what it is….The Drs. Lerner are scientists don't you see? And in order to be a "respected" scientist these days, one is required to discount anything religious. They now refer to it as "superstition" to further remove any residual credibility. In other words, it is just more PC BS.

Just so I understand, Dr. Lerner, an observant Jewish journalist living in Israel publishes a paper written at Bar-Ilan University, that’s in Israel not New Jersey, and because it reads BC/BCE he’s a Socialist/Communist/Liberal BS artist trying to erase Jesus from Israeli and American culture?

If that’s the argument, there’s a lot of crap flying, but it’s not emanating from Dr. Lerner.

67 posted on 11/10/2005 11:05:21 AM PST by SJackson (People have learned from Gaza that resistance succeeds, not smart negotiators., Hassem Darwish)
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To: StuLongIsland
Perhaps the anti BCE CE people would have prefered Jewish (or Israeli) scientists to use something like 13 Adar 2500 (making a number and date up) it is the correct way to mention the date, who to say the Jewish calendar is the wrong way to notate.

I guess, I don't know the month but it was likely 2871.

A lot of articles are posted on FR from Jewish World Review. Above the title they read

Jewish World Review Nov. 10, 2005 / 8 Mar-Cheshvan, 5766

Guess I've been anti-Jewish all these years by omitting the Hebrew date when posting.

68 posted on 11/10/2005 11:07:54 AM PST by SJackson (People have learned from Gaza that resistance succeeds, not smart negotiators., Hassem Darwish)
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To: Preachin'

Nope. The years are identical. CE and BCE were simply used to replace BC and AD because they were too Christian-centric. No other reason than that.

This isn't 2005 AD and 2009 CE.


69 posted on 11/10/2005 11:11:03 AM PST by frgoff
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To: MineralMan

Which, of course, is why they all use the Christ as 0-year marker in their calendaring system as opposed to the Jewish calendar, the Mayan calander, the Japanese calender, the Muslim calendar, etc.

Try again. They just didn't like being stared in the face with a constant reminder of Christ every time they wrote down a date, so they took the same calender, the same 0-year mark, and removed the offensive wording.

Which is actually silly when you think about it. Since Christ was an historical and archaeological figure why be annoyed because he's used as the 0 mark for a calendar. Unless, of course you don't like Christianity as a religion.

It's sort of like renaming the periodic table of elements into something less chemical because it might offend electrical engineers.


70 posted on 11/10/2005 11:14:56 AM PST by frgoff
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To: ASA Vet

Except for the fact that they use it, then pretend it really isn't based on their dating system.

Kind of like me citing an article you wrote and denying you were the author. But, hey, you should be honored that I cited your article.


71 posted on 11/10/2005 11:17:42 AM PST by frgoff
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To: frgoff
"Nope. The years are identical."

No they aren't. C.E. (common era) was installed to allow for the missed years in dating.

The year 1 by our reckoning is always referred to to as -4 B.C.E. (before common era) by those who use the B.C.E and C.E> dating methods.

I have issues with it being called Common Era, while the birth of Christ is the point of its reference, but it does serve to rectify dating errors.
72 posted on 11/10/2005 11:18:28 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: Preachin'

Sorry, but you're just wrong on this. Look it up. It is not 2009 C.E. It is 2005 C.E.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era


73 posted on 11/10/2005 11:22:35 AM PST by frgoff
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To: frgoff
"Sorry, but you're just wrong on this. Look it up. It is not 2009 C.E. It is 2005 C.E."

What the year is is not the issue.

It's about whether or not they believe it.

They believe and adjusted the dates for their own archaeological reasons.

I don't necessarily believe they are right or wrong about what year it is. It's just that they think that they have a better standard.

Since that's their perspective, they use BCE and CE.

That's not too difficult to understand, I don't believe.
74 posted on 11/10/2005 11:26:14 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: frgoff

>>>Which is actually silly when you think about it. Since Christ was an historical and archaeological figure why be annoyed because he's used as the 0 mark for a calendar. Unless, of course you don't like Christianity as a religion.

Jesus was an historical and archaeological figure. He is not accepted as the Christ by Jews, so BC is a problem. Anno Domini, Year of our Lord, is a problem for 2/3 of the world for whom Jesus is not Lord.


75 posted on 11/10/2005 11:29:41 AM PST by NC28203
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To: Maury
What's with this 'BCE' and 'CE' dating crap?

Crap is a good description. It's a politically correct replacement for B.C. and A.D..

76 posted on 11/10/2005 11:30:56 AM PST by Mogollon
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To: avital2
BCE = Before the Christian Era

BC = Christian Era

77 posted on 11/10/2005 11:46:42 AM PST by grammarman
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To: grammarman
That is

BCE = Before the Christian Era

CE = Christian Era

78 posted on 11/10/2005 11:49:01 AM PST by grammarman
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79 posted on 11/10/2005 12:28:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Wednesday, November 2, 2005.)
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To: Rebelbase

That would be so cool! LOL!


80 posted on 11/10/2005 12:30:23 PM PST by asp1
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