Posted on 11/10/2005 4:02:20 AM PST by johnny7
RICHMOND -- President Bush's sinking popularity helped seal Democrat Timothy M. Kaine's victory in Virginia's gubernatorial election Tuesday, politicians and pollsters said yesterday. "We know that George Bush is just killing us," said Delegate David B. Albo, a Republican who narrowly defeated his Democratic challenger in Fairfax County. "His popularity just brought the ticket down. There's no other way to explain it."
Mr. Kaine, the current lieutenant governor, defeated Republican Jerry W. Kilgore by six percentage points in a contest that had been a statistical dead heat in the days before the election.
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So, time for us to learn, huh? Gilmore promised to eliminate the car tax. He won. No member of the GOP made governor since. And the car tax is higher than ever. A bunch of phony libs pretending to be republicans out here.
Kaine sounds like a cross between a jaded Roman and a jaded fruit. Erk! Glad I won't hear him much. Don't watch TV. FRegards....
Tiresome.
BS. It had nothing to do with Bush. Kilgore ran a poor campaign. His running mates who won, Bolling and McDonnell, both drew a significant amount of votes more than Kilgore. How do you explain that?
The Dems did a better job of turnout and Northern Virginia is trending more and more Dem. In 2004, Fairfax County went for Kerry, the first time in over 40 years that a Dem Presidential Candidate has done that. Kaine's margin of victory came essentially from Fairfax County (+60,000), Arlington County (+29,000); and Alexandria (+16,000)in Northern VA. When you include Richmond (+27,000), it is clear that there are some disturbing demographic and voting pattern trends for the GOP. It has nothing to do with Bush.
No. Kilgore didn't even take the pledge not to raise taxes. No wonder he lost.
Lost one seat in the House of Delegates. GOP has a 59 to 41 margin.
That is pure unadultered bull shit.
Having said that, I will say this,The Repunlican Party hierarchy needs to decide if they want the Republican Party to remain in control of the Congress and Whitehouse, or not.
Should they decide that it would be nice to remain in control of these institutions, they then need to take a good long, hard look at who put thenm there.
Then they beed to do what they were elected to do and stop trying to appease and out Democrat the Democrats.
Or, in sawmill talk, they need to dance whit who brung them to the ball.
It is interesting to note that in 2001, Kilgore received more votes running for AG, more than a million, than any other candidate for GOV, Lt. Gov., or AG of either party. Moreover, his vote total exceeded that of Kaine this year. Go figure.
Even when Bush's popularity was at it's highest, just after 9/11, the 2001 elections in Virginia still produced a democrat governor.
Virginians are almost predictable in their patterns of voting in such races. I don't agree with them but there it is...
True enough, but there are significant differences between 2001 and 2005, which should give the GOP some concern.
Warner received 984,177 votes in 2001 compared to Kaine's 1,022,478 in 2005. Kilgore outdrew Earley 909,540 to 887,234. What is interesting is what Warner and Earley did in NOVA compared to Kilgore and Kaine.
Warner won Fairfax County 146,537 to 120,799 for Earley. In 2005, Kaine won Fairfax County 163,195 to 103,009. Kaine had a 60,000 margin of victory compared to Warner's 26,000. Kilgore received 20,000 less votes than Earley. Similar results occurred in Arlington County and Alexandria. The Dems are turning out in greater numbers and the GOP vote is declining. It is no accident that Fairfax County went for a Dem (Kerry) in 2004 for the first time in over 40 years.
The bottom line is that the demographics of NOVA are rapidly changing and so are the voting patterns. My fear about Northern Virginia is that it will become the Detroit or Philadelphia of Virginia. Dem statewide candidates can amass such leads from Northern VA that it will guarantee them victory regardless of what happens elsewhere in the state. Over my past 26 years here, I have witnessed a remarkable political change, which I find disturbing. In addition to Fairfx, Loudon, and PW, add Arlington County and Alexandria. When you total them all up you almost get Kaine's margin of victory. Cities like Norfolk and Richmond are also in the mix.
It's been a common reaction for years - blame the voter instead of adjusting the party. Perot is the most often cited example I can think of. His candidacy is trotted out to justify the loss of the WH to the DEM party. I don't know who the bogeyman was when Dole ran, but you can bet the GOP-party-faithful do not see that loss as a GOP-induced problem either.
Losers tend to look and point outside for blame.
Don't buy into that pattern nonsense. Pure rationalization worthy of Louis Farahkan. Each election stands on its own. You could probably find other "correlations" such as eye or hair color. It boils down to the candidates. Fairfax County had not voted for a Dem candidate for President for over 40 years until Kerry won in 2004. That was a set pattern too.
I agree. Congressman Moran(D-VA) hates IsreaL AND IS SCUM.
The RNC should have his drunken face on every TV ad in 2006.
But the MSM gives this guy a pass.
Kaine and his liberal pro abortion but I'm a good Catholic crap will not fly with the legislature and LT. Gov Bolling.
warner snowed the VA GOP once, but not this time.
Exactly. Bush probably helped Bolling and McDonnell get elected. The GOP needs to give up the PC crap and start playing hardball again. Find as many DEM's in congress with ethics problems and hammer them starting with Rahm Emanuel in Chicago and his mobster donors.
I just talked with Karl {Rove, he and I formed a secret cabal} and he told me that because the President's poll numbers are so low, that he believes that President Bush will NOT run in 2008. All freepers must call the Whitehouse and get President Bush to change his mind and run again. S/off
Picking the one to blame is not important... understanding the WHY is.
I am less concerned about abortion, which is not a state matter since Roe vs Wade, but rather, about increased taxes. The property taxes have gone through the roof with the rapid appreciation of property. The Dems and their willing supporters in the GOP-controlled state legislature are willing to increase income and sales taxes. Kaine is a tax and spend liberal and Kilgore did not do a good job of separating himself from this ideology.
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