[Alia]

Great Stuff, Doug! :) Yahoo!

[bigsigh]

public employee unions give campaign contributions directly to those politicans with whom they negotiate their contracts and who vote for the contracts. This is a direct and inherent conflict of interest. It should be prohibited.

[baystaterebel]

First step...

Crack the egg.

Start noting how many teachers are being caught in sexual relations with children. Note how well it worked against the Catholic Church. But in the case of education, you can read articles almost daily of another teacher, be male or female, being caught taking advantage of a minor.

Thats how you begin to crack that egg.

Use the truth.

[thiscouldbemoreconfusing]

Teachers can leave the nea and join the AAE. http://aaeteachers.org/

[ModelBreaker]

These unions are clearly a subsidiary of the DemocRATic Party,

I disagree. The dems are a wholly owned subsidiary of the public employee's unions.

[TaMoDee]

Doug, Got your northern flank covered.

[TheLion]

"Proposition 75 was defeated yesterday in California. The teachers union spent over a hundred million dollars to defeat it.

And this money, I am sure, came right out of teachers pockets!

[doug from upland]

Evergreen Freedom Foundation is very excited about being FR's partner in this venture. There are some favorable court decisions that are on our side. Now is the time to strike because of so many angry teachers who had money stolen from them to fight a proposition with which they agreed.

[Boiling point]

Honest question, I have never worked for a union company and was wondering if you Had to be a teacher to join? Do members get an opportunity to vote on union issues? If so, Why couldn't conservatives pack the membership and affect the direction of union issues?

[hosepipe]

WAR with teachers Unions.?...

Abosultely NOBODY can whine like a teacher..
They can reduce you to tears in their whinings..
They can whine your wallet right out of you're back pocket..

It an amazing sight to behold..

[doug from upland]

If succeeding threads ---- should be In succeeding threads...

[abclily]

The main reason teachers join the union is for the legal insurance. Teachers fear being sued by parents. When the union rep comes to talk to the faculty at the beginning of the year, that is the main talking point. 'Our lawyers are at your disposal.' 'We will back you in court.' In some states teachers can buy their own liability insurance as a rider on their homeowners policy - for a very few dollars a year. In one state I was told by my insurance agent, "We don't sell liability insurance to our public school teachers. We have an unwritten agreement with the union."

[doug from upland]

We've spoken about this before, my friend. With angry California teachers, maybe now the time is right.

[Aquinasfan]

With the religious exemption, ALL OF THEIR DUES will go to a charity.

I wasn't aware of this. Spread the word!

I also can't overstate the benefits of homeschooling. Besides the religious, academic and emotional benefits, homeschooling takes money away from the unions.

[Puddleglum]

ping to read later

[wintertime]

Doug,

The solution is to abolish government's involvement in K-12 schooling.

The following link explains why government schooling is unconstitutional on both the federal and state levels:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter9.htm

What follows are a few talking points on why I believe government schools are unconstitutional:

Government schools curriculum and policies can NEVER be politically, culturally, or religiously neutral in content or consequences. NEVER. Why? Because childhood education is fundamentally in its very essence the transfer of values from one generation to another.

When a child attends a government school they are taught that the government can and does restrict their free speech, free press, free expression of religion, and free assembly.

Government indoctrinated children also learn that if they refuse to cooperate, government can and DOES send out armed police to force them into centers that restrict their human rights,

Government indoctrinated children also learn that if a citizen refuses to pay for government school human rights abuses, or if the citizen refuses to fund the non-neutral government school political, religious and cultural worldview that armed police can and WILL sell the citizen's home or business at auction. They also are taught that if the citizen resists, he risks prison or death.

Since it is culture, political and religious worldview, and moral and value beliefs that determines curriculum and hundreds of school policies, children learn that government can aim a police gun at them and taxpayers to FORCE the government bureaucrats' worldview on other people's children.

Children also learn in government schools that the biggest political bully gets to decide what is stuffed into the heads of the next generation of voters, judges, lawyers, professionals of all kinds, religious leaders, editors and journalists, university professors, political party leaders, and our government representatives and bureaucrats.

Question: How can any of this be constitutional?

Solution:Remove your child from government school. Privatize universal education.

[wintertime]

I just checked out the Evergreen Freedom Foundation. Regarding education they are merely committed to imposing their worldview ( by means of government police threat) on other people's children.

Geeze! Some "freedom"!

[doug from upland]

Part 2 - The Religious Exemption

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

BUMP! Please ping!

[Born Conservative]

Some of you on the list may find this of interest.