AT WAR WITH THE TEACHERS UNIONS: Part 1 - Are You Ready to Enlist and Fight the Great Battle?

DFU | 11-9-05 | Doug from Upland

[doug from upland]

NOTE: this is the first in a series of posts in which we will discuss concrete steps to do battle with and ultimately substantially defund teachers unions. These unions are clearly a subsidiary of the DemocRATic Party, and they are a big part of what is wrong with public education.

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Proposition 75 was defeated yesterday in California. The teachers union spent over a hundred million dollars to defeat it. They were quaking in their boots at the thought of actually having to ask permission of its members before spending money on partisan politics. Not surprisingly, they spend virtually all of the political money on DemocRATS. California teachers who are not DemocRATS should be angry. We have an opportunity to help them do something about it.

Okay, so the proposition was barely defeated. What next?

I had a lengthy discussion today with Ryan Bedford of the Evergreen Freedom Foundation. EFF has been very successful in it's efforts to reign in the Washington Education Association. They have beaten them in court, and a huge number of teachers have "opted out." If it can be done it Washington, we can do it in California and all the other states. This is going to be a national effort. It needs your help.

Your suggestions and your offer to enlist in the battle will be greatly appreciated. We are going to use email or other methods you may suggest to inform teachers of their rights.

Conservative teachers can demand a return of a portion of their dues used for political purposes, and they have the right to take a religious exemption. With the religious exemption, ALL OF THEIR DUES will go to a charity. If succeeding threads, we will be explaining how teachers can take action. We will provide examples of forms.

For this thread, we are hoping that you will check in and offer suggestions and a little of your time to send email to teachers. According to the EFF, we can get the email addresses through a FOIA request, but that might take six months.

A google search such as "California teacher email" yields results for teachers' emails at a huge number of schools. It may be that you can begin with the schools closest to you.

The power of the teachers unions within the DemocRATic Party is enormous. A big percentage of delegates at their conventions are teachers.

Can someone start by volunteering to be in charge of an AT WAR WITH THE TEACHERS UNIONS ping list? Will someone or several someones volunteer to help with assigning tasks?

Make no mistake about it. Hillary Clinton is depending on these foot soldiers to carry her back into the White House.

[doug from upland]

In the state of Washington, the districts have $1 million protection. The union then provides additional if a judgment against a teacher is above that. Yes, there are other programs.

[abclily]

$1 million in protection from the union? Or from the district?

[doug from upland]

$1 million from the district.

[seastay]

Hundred million dollars on the campaign spent by 292,012 teachers = $342 each,

average salary of CA teacher = $56,283 per year

342$ about 0.6% of a salary is a small price to pay, to guarantees pay increases of greater percentages and tenure for life.

Teachers are not paid a lot, but the waist the education system, and the control over the state budget to waist even more every year without accountability at a time when CA is broke is the problem.

Why do these 292,012 teachers have more power on 50% (going to education) of the state budget than the rest of the 300 million people, who live in the state, That’s 0.1 percent of the people controlling 50% of the budget, and we are supposed to live in a democracy?

http://data1.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/NumTeachCo.asp?cChoice=StateNum&Radio2=T&cYear=1999-00&submit1=Submit

http://www.cde.ca.gov/re/pn/fb/yr05teachsalaries.asp

[abclily]

They have more power because their union dues buy the politicians who make the laws that protect the teachers. It's a closed society. The unions will never be broken by new laws - just not going to happen. The only thing that ever makes a union obsolete is competition.

[abclily]

Now what we need to know is: 1) which major insurance companies do offer liability insurance to school teachers? 2) do they offer it in every state? 3) how many insurance companies have unwritten agreements with the unions not to sell insurance to teachers?
I don't have the time to do the research and gather the stats. Someone else may have the time to do this. It would be a major step in the right direction to compile this information.

[Aquinasfan]

With the religious exemption, ALL OF THEIR DUES will go to a charity.

I wasn't aware of this. Spread the word!

I also can't overstate the benefits of homeschooling. Besides the religious, academic and emotional benefits, homeschooling takes money away from the unions.

[Aquinasfan]

Start noting how many teachers are being caught in sexual relations with children. Note how well it worked against the Catholic Church.

The MSM will bury it. The only way around it is to write letters to your local newspaper. I write letter after letter to our local paper. They're all published. And letters to the editor are the most-read part of the newspaper.

[Puddleglum]

ping to read later

[Aquinasfan]

$56,283 per year...

Teachers are not paid a lot,

Huh? That's an anualized salary of at least $70k, plus benefits. I don't know what the deal is in CA, but in RI teachers retire on 4/5 of their salary.

Private school teachers earn about $30k, on average.

The schools exist by and for the teacher unions.

[wintertime]

Doug,

The solution is to abolish government's involvement in K-12 schooling.

The following link explains why government schooling is unconstitutional on both the federal and state levels:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter9.htm

What follows are a few talking points on why I believe government schools are unconstitutional:

Government schools curriculum and policies can NEVER be politically, culturally, or religiously neutral in content or consequences. NEVER. Why? Because childhood education is fundamentally in its very essence the transfer of values from one generation to another.

When a child attends a government school they are taught that the government can and does restrict their free speech, free press, free expression of religion, and free assembly.

Government indoctrinated children also learn that if they refuse to cooperate, government can and DOES send out armed police to force them into centers that restrict their human rights,

Government indoctrinated children also learn that if a citizen refuses to pay for government school human rights abuses, or if the citizen refuses to fund the non-neutral government school political, religious and cultural worldview that armed police can and WILL sell the citizen's home or business at auction. They also are taught that if the citizen resists, he risks prison or death.

Since it is culture, political and religious worldview, and moral and value beliefs that determines curriculum and hundreds of school policies, children learn that government can aim a police gun at them and taxpayers to FORCE the government bureaucrats' worldview on other people's children.

Children also learn in government schools that the biggest political bully gets to decide what is stuffed into the heads of the next generation of voters, judges, lawyers, professionals of all kinds, religious leaders, editors and journalists, university professors, political party leaders, and our government representatives and bureaucrats.

Question: How can any of this be constitutional?

Solution:Remove your child from government school. Privatize universal education.

[wintertime]

I just checked out the Evergreen Freedom Foundation. Regarding education they are merely committed to imposing their worldview ( by means of government police threat) on other people's children.

Geeze! Some "freedom"!

[doug from upland]

The insurance question will be an episode in this series coming soon.

[doug from upland]

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[doug from upland]

Part 2 - The Religious Exemption

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

BUMP! Please ping!

[Born Conservative]

Some of you on the list may find this of interest.

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

"Solution: Remove your child from government school."

That's not a solution. That only helps a little, as in decreasing the brainwashing of ONE child and reducing the empire-building resources of the current oligschoolopolists $30 or so a day in Average Daily Attendance monies.

We the People OWN those schools. We are PAYING EMPLOYEES to operate them CONSTITUTIONALLY. And we are going to take our turf BACK.

[moog]

Abosultely NOBODY can whine like a teacher..
They can reduce you to tears in their whinings..
They can whine your wallet right out of you're back pocket..

I've seen plenty of people in all walks of life that can whine like crazy. It's a societal thing.