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WAL-MART BANS CHRISTMAS: BOYCOTT LAUNCHED
Catholic League ^ | 9 November 2005 | William Donohue

Posted on 11/09/2005 11:50:22 AM PST by big'ol_freeper

WAL-MART BANS CHRISTMAS:

BOYCOTT LAUNCHED

A woman who recently complained to Wal-Mart that the store was replacing “Merry Christmas” with “Happy Holidays” received an e-mail response from Customer Service. It appears below in its exact form:

“Walmart is a world wide organization and must remain conscious of this. The majority of the world still has different practices other than ‘christmas’ which is an ancient tradition that has its roots in Siberian shamanism. The colors associated with ‘christmas’ red and white are actually a representation of of the aminita mascera mushroom. Santa is also borrowed from the Caucuses, mistletoe from the Celts, yule log from the Goths, the time from the Visigoth and the tree from the worship of Baal. It is a wide wide world.”

To which Catholic League president Bill Donohue says: “This statement was signed by someone called Kirby. When I read it, I thought he might be drunk. But I was wrong. We sent Kirby’s response to Wal-Mart’s headquarters only to find that Dan Fogleman, Senior Manager, Public Relations, agrees. After acknowledging that he read Kirby’s response, Fogleman said, in part, the following”:

“As a retailer, we recognize some of our customers may be shopping for Chanukah or Kwanza gifts during this time of year and we certainly want these customers in our stores and to feel welcome, just as we do those buying for Christmas. As an employer, we recognize the significance of the Christmas holiday among our family of associates…and close our stores in observance, the only day during the year that we are closed.”

Bill Donohue says: “It’s nice to know that Wal-Mart is closed on a federal holiday. Now here is why I am asking the leaders of 126 religious organizations that span seven religious communities to boycott Wal-Mart. Go to its website and search for Hanukkah and up come 200 items. Click on Kwanzaa and up come 77. Click on Christmas, and here’s what you get: ‘We’ve brought you to our ‘Holiday’ page based on your search.’ In other words, Wal-Mart is practicing discrimination.”


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To: HairOfTheDog; Right Wing Assault

And it is probably some kind of standard function programmed into their search engine - i.e. when a search returns an unmanageably HUGE number of results, suggest something more focused first, as a way of encouraging them to refine their search term a bit more. It doesn't happen when you search for "Christmas lights" or "Christmas tree" or "Christmas story" or...

Of all the things to get bent out of shape over. Sheesh!


341 posted on 11/09/2005 2:54:26 PM PST by ecurbh (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: ecurbh

Excellent point. Who searches for something with just "Christmas" anyway? Christmas what? What would you like? A tree? A nativity scene? Lights? Ornaments? Gifts? That's why they have the Holiday page with links down the side for common "Christmas" categories.


342 posted on 11/09/2005 2:57:49 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: big'ol_freeper

WalMart isn't this stupid.


343 posted on 11/09/2005 2:58:15 PM PST by ArcadeQuarters
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To: Gabz
Hi Gabz.

Not that s**t again.

I was just getting ready to ping you, when I saw your post.
344 posted on 11/09/2005 2:58:44 PM PST by Mrs.Nooseman (Tony Snow and Mark Levin fan)
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To: armymarinedad

> On the holiday page is a link saying "not what you are looking for click on the link to match your word Christmas. Click on the link and 7970 items to match Christmas. That's over 20 times as many as both of the others combined.

This fooferoo has the libs rubbing their hands and licking their lips with anti-corporatist joy. Listen, I have worked in the online retail industry and I can tell you that putting a shopper in the "Holiday" category from that search has nothing to do with discrimination (sheesh) and everything to do with directing the shopper to items that may not have "Christmas" in the title and may be nice things to buy for Hannukah and other holidays as well as Christmas.

And that so-called "letter" sounds like complete fiction to make a bogus case and create a media frenzy to preen in.


345 posted on 11/09/2005 2:59:15 PM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: Right Wing Assault

The query string "Christmas" was associated with the category "Holiday" because most Christmas items live in Holiday and most Holiday items are related to Christmas. It doesn't make sense for them to associate Kwanzaa with Holiday, since most results in Holday are not related to Kwanzaa. Kwanzaa has not been associated in the site administration (from what I gather this is a manual association) because redirecting Kwanzaa to Holiday is foolish: you will get LESS useful results. By associating Christmas with the category Holiday, you get all Holiday items that might not have Christmas in the name or description.


346 posted on 11/09/2005 3:00:10 PM PST by Sols
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To: CharlesWayneCT
We need to find the soul of wall-mart and destroy it.....

Paging Buffy...

347 posted on 11/09/2005 3:01:14 PM PST by nina0113
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To: HairOfTheDog

Maybe there are people out there that just want to buy Christmas. Probably the same folks that call tech support asking how they can download the internet.


348 posted on 11/09/2005 3:03:37 PM PST by ecurbh (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: ecurbh

~laughing~ :~D


349 posted on 11/09/2005 3:04:53 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: HairOfTheDog
LOL.

WTG HOfTD!!!

When will people ever understand that happy Holidays is only a greeting that includes all Holiday's?
350 posted on 11/09/2005 3:06:18 PM PST by Mrs.Nooseman (Tony Snow and Mark Levin fan)
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To: Mrs.Nooseman

I'm amazed the greeting card industry let us get away with the "Happy Holdays" or "Season's Greetings" shortcut. This way, we only have to buy one card. :~D


351 posted on 11/09/2005 3:08:19 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: big'ol_freeper

I guess I need to go put on my waders.


352 posted on 11/09/2005 3:09:26 PM PST by Jackknife ( "I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him 'father'." —Will Rogers)
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To: upcountryhorseman
Wal-Mart's base is in the U. S.

All your base are belong to us!

353 posted on 11/09/2005 3:10:18 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Sols

Sols, your post 346 makes sense. Thank you.


354 posted on 11/09/2005 3:11:30 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: HairOfTheDog
It amazes me that people aren't attacking the greeting card industry ,like they are attacking Wal~Mart,over the simple word Holiday.LOL.

Last time I checked, Christmas was a Holiday.
355 posted on 11/09/2005 3:11:33 PM PST by Mrs.Nooseman (Tony Snow and Mark Levin fan)
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To: Doohickey
So are you saying that this thread, with posters whom you do not know- within a sea of hundreds of topics is bothering you? Is it sucking you in and you just can't escape?? Is it making you angry- buggin' you?? LOL. What these threads bring out is FR hypocrite brigade.. those who jump up and down and get angry at people and post obsessively about how other people feel about issues....and I see a bunch of them around here.
356 posted on 11/09/2005 3:12:28 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Since the thread had almost 200 replies when I pung it out, I took the article at face value. It certainly pays to read all the thread first. I still haven't read it. So the entire article and emails were bogus, then. Well, when I have a time, I'll have to read the whole dang thing.


357 posted on 11/09/2005 3:16:37 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: SaltyJoe

well, they do call that area southwest asia.

and the three kings....they brought some wontons


358 posted on 11/09/2005 3:16:39 PM PST by BurbankKarl (NRA EPL)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Last year I went out of my way to thank a local retailer for using the words CHRISTMAS TREES in her newspaper advertisement. She told me there was great pressure to use the words HOLIDAY TREE- but she decided that since the other people who were buying Christmas trees were people celebrating Christmas it would be appropriate. To think we live in an age when people have to stop and think about this stuff.


359 posted on 11/09/2005 3:17:24 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks)
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To: Smittie

Didnt you know Wal-Mart created China! yep.


360 posted on 11/09/2005 3:17:29 PM PST by BurbankKarl (NRA EPL)
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