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Hannity Thread - Monday 11/7/2005

Posted on 11/07/2005 12:11:50 PM PST by sofaman

Hannity Time!!! Three hours until the Great One!


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: hannity; talkradio
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To: Primetimedonna; tiredoflaundry
It's dusgusting isn't it? My Dad, being a vet also and having served four tours in Vietnam, captured for a short time, always really liked him, until he found that out many years ago. I mean, how does ANYONE with a SHREAD of decency, divorce their spouse who got sick or was disfigured in a car accident, after that spouse waited for them for SO MANY YEARS while they were a POW! HOW does anyone do that and ever face themselves in the mirror again? Disgusting. 8(

My Dad and I think McCain in all seriousness, is not right in the head anymore since he was tortured like he was by the vietnamese while a POW there. I've heard several people who knew him before he was a POW, and they've all said that he just wasn't himself, just isn't "right in the head" when he got back. Understandibly so, but truly, I think mccain just isn't who he used to be. And he definitely isn't a conservative.

281 posted on 11/07/2005 3:04:18 PM PST by Allen H (Remember 9-11, God bless our military, Bush, & the USA! A sad ACLU, for a better America!!!)
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To: Cboldt

It is the old classified v covert ploy. If you can't get him on one, go for the other. Who told what to whom first. Crazy.


282 posted on 11/07/2005 3:04:47 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (It is easy to call for a pi$$ing contest when you aren't going to be in the line of fire.)
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To: AliVeritas

If I can find some time. Right now I'm in the middle of something else.


283 posted on 11/07/2005 3:06:24 PM PST by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
"These are not the droids you're looking for" waving hand at the weak minded libe..., I mean, Stormtroopers. Aren't liberals and Stormtroopers really the samething? I mean, during conventins and elections they behave the same. Assaulting people, destroying private property, breaking into places and trashing the place. 8)
284 posted on 11/07/2005 3:07:11 PM PST by Allen H (Remember 9-11, God bless our military, Bush, & the USA! A sad ACLU, for a better America!!!)
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To: GOP_Proud

I sure hope he is. A similar interview to the one he gave on t he radio would hit about 20 or more million people this week as it's spread around all over on radio, emails, and blogs like FR. I hope he is on Hannity and colmes tonight. 8)


285 posted on 11/07/2005 3:08:01 PM PST by Allen H (Remember 9-11, God bless our military, Bush, & the USA! A sad ACLU, for a better America!!!)
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To: All
In response to the accusations from Major General (Ret.) Paul Valalley, joe wilson says the following:

"Don't you dare tell the truth about me General! Don't you dare! I'll sure you if you don't take it back! I'll sue!" 8)

286 posted on 11/07/2005 3:09:20 PM PST by Allen H (Remember 9-11, God bless our military, Bush, & the USA! A sad ACLU, for a better America!!!)
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To: Allen H; All

Get over to the Levin Thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1517591/posts

He's replaying the general.


287 posted on 11/07/2005 3:11:10 PM PST by AliVeritas (Weldon Ops, Earle Fatwa Team, Pork Jihadi, MOOSEMUSS, Stick Brigade, Go Steele)
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To: AliVeritas

Blech. RINO speak.


288 posted on 11/07/2005 3:12:24 PM PST by Allen H (Remember 9-11, God bless our military, Bush, & the USA! A sad ACLU, for a better America!!!)
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To: AliVeritas
Yeah really. So mccain only created the gang of 14 to save us all and stop the Senate from being shut down. Boy did THAT ever peg the "puke-o-meter" hard to the "kidney's up next" side.
289 posted on 11/07/2005 3:14:13 PM PST by Allen H (Remember 9-11, God bless our military, Bush, & the USA! A sad ACLU, for a better America!!!)
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To: tiredoflaundry

Couldn't have said it better. Respect his service, reject his milk toast RINO behavior.


290 posted on 11/07/2005 3:15:19 PM PST by Allen H (Remember 9-11, God bless our military, Bush, & the USA! A sad ACLU, for a better America!!!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
It is the old classified v covert ploy. If you can't get him on one, go for the other.

Heheheh. Except the "classified" one is meaningless mumbo jumbo with no legal ramifications whatsoever. IOW, you can't get him on the "classified agent" charge, because there is no such thing as a "classified agent."

When people outside the CIA know you work for the CIA, you are not "covert CIA."

I got a kick out of the "not widely know outside the intelligence community" throwaway line too. The intelligence community includes people from many many countries, most of whom are not covert agents.

291 posted on 11/07/2005 3:15:48 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Txsleuth
You amaze me...how you put things in their place and make the complicated, easier to understand...

That's my Russerty side.

292 posted on 11/07/2005 3:17:32 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Zacs Mom; Cboldt

they may have claimed no crime was committed on the technicalities of the statutes (they were correct about that) - but I don't see anywhere there where they admit that Russert, Cooper, and Miller were amongst the people "in the know" about who she was - that she had been outed to them.

to have admitted that, they would have had to admit that the conversations with Libby and Rove were setups (since they already knew who WIlson's wife was), they would not have been able to send those reporters in there with their BS testimony "oh, we knew nothing, we found out everything from Libby and Rove". it would have changed the entire case.


293 posted on 11/07/2005 5:19:08 PM PST by oceanview
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To: AliVeritas

he wanted to trump up his prose on the outing charge (for which there was no indictment), by trying to show that her identity was not "common knowledge". so he sends the FBI to interview the coached neighbors, so he can say "see, wouldn't the neighbors have known if it were common knowledge?". its pure BS, and it gives great insight into Fitzgerald that he would do that.


294 posted on 11/07/2005 5:22:54 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Txsleuth

in my opinion, the biggest risk to Libby is if Fitzgerald can show he destroyed his notes (or otherwise had easy access to them but did not provide them), Fitzgerald was able to obtain and authenticate those notes from an independent source (someone made a copy, an attachement on a saved email), and Libby testified to the contrary and can't get by with simply saying "I forgot about that meeting".


295 posted on 11/07/2005 5:30:46 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview

Yes....you do have a good point.

President Bush said he wanted all to cooperate fully, and tell the truth...so, for Libby's sake, I hope he did tell the truth, but something else went haywire.

However, when it was Libby that they were "going after"...he seemed like a big target to the dems...but, now that he is the "only one" that Fitzy has indicted..do you notice how fast Chrissy Matthews has changed his tune....

and the dems have changed theirs, to pre-war intelligence again??? LOL


296 posted on 11/07/2005 5:34:56 PM PST by Txsleuth (I am the real TXSLEUTH...please freepmail me if you doubt it.)
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To: Txsleuth

my own opinion - unless our side can do some thing to knock this story down; in time, Rove will be indicted also.


297 posted on 11/07/2005 5:38:03 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview

GACK..don't like the sound of that.

I hope that Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely coming out against Wilson's contention that his wife wasn't known before Novak's article....will make Fitzy and others think twice about having this go to trial...

I mean, just think of how much fun Libby's lawyers could have calling people in media and politics to testify!


298 posted on 11/07/2005 5:43:33 PM PST by Txsleuth (I am the real TXSLEUTH...please freepmail me if you doubt it.)
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To: oceanview
I don't see anywhere there where they admit that Russert, Cooper, and Miller were amongst the people "in the know" about who she was

Not necessarily, "in the know," but Cooper is alleged to have brought Wilson's wife up to Libby, rather than Libby bringing it up to Cooper. The indictment does not probe, nor does it need to probe how and when Cooper learned.

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/documents/libby_indictment_28102005.pdf

Page 8, paragraph 23: "On or about July 12, in the afternoon, Libby spoke by telephone with Cooper, who asked whether Libby had heard that Wilson's wife was involved in sending Wilson on the trip to Niger. Libby confirmed to Cooper, without elaboration or qualification that he had heard this information too."

... they would not have been able to send those reporters in there with their BS testimony "oh, we knew nothing, we found out everything from Libby and Rove"

The case is not about where the reporters heard it first. The case is about where Libby heard it first. Libby is the one who is charged with not being truthful with investigators regarding where he first learned of Plame, he relationship to Wilson, and her relationship to Wilson's trip.

You are thinking in terms of "who did the outing," but the case is not about that - it is about whether or not Libby gave truthful testimony to investigators.

299 posted on 11/07/2005 5:47:24 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

I believe Cooper's claim is that he heard it from Rove - he mentioned it to Libby because he heard about it from Rove. None of the reporters claim prior knowledge.

yes, I know the case is not about when the reporters knew. but had it been established that they knew already, it simply lends credence to the idea that the only reason they were asking - was to entrap Rove and Libby. already this case involves no crime on the underlying statute, if we then add entrapment to that - making the indictments seem "fair" becomes even harder.


300 posted on 11/07/2005 6:00:07 PM PST by oceanview
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