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France reacts to 'shockwave of riots'(Paris/France burns Live Thread Night #12)
Times of London ^ | 11/07/05 | Simon Freeman, Charles Bremner

Posted on 11/07/2005 2:44:49 AM PST by Dane

French police made 395 arrests last night as riots intensified for the 11th consecutive night, with violence and fire engulfing towns from the North to the Mediterranean.

In the impoverished suburbs and satellite towns around Paris, where the unrest began on October 27, churches, schools and warehouses were set alight. At least 1,408 vehicles were destroyed, many more than on previous nights, and the random attacks have spread into the heart of the city.

In Grigny, south of the capital, a gang of around 200 youths are reported to have lured police into a housing estate before opening fire with hunting rifles. At least 30 officers were injured, two seriously with lead pellets in the legs and neck.

Riots broke out in beacons of disaffection across the country from Lille, on the border with Belgium, to Montpellier on the Mediterranean coast. In Toulouse, police used tear gas to disperse a mob. Cars were set alight on the streets of Nantes, Orleans, Rennes and Rouen, and youths in St Etienne forced passengers off a bus before burning it. Churches were set ablaze in northern Lens and southern Sete.

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In Strasbourg, youths stole a car and rammed it into a housing project, setting the vehicle and the building on fire. "We’ll stop when Sarkozy steps down," the defiant 17-year-old driver told an Associated Press reporter.

Police are calling for a night-time curfew in affected areas and some senior officers have demanded that troops are brought on to the streets.

Michel Gaudin, France's most senior police officer, said today: "We are witnessing a sort of shock wave that is spreading across the country."

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To: JustaCowgirl
"there's no remotely rational way he can whine and blame it on Bush"

So? You're assuming that rationality ever constrains Williams or the rest of the leftist blabbers! :^)

fwiw, I predict it won't be long before the new Euro-left talking point is that this is all the fault of Bush and Blair whose (it will be said) aggressive actions have (sob, sob....) alienated a whole generation of aspiring Islamo-fascists. Remember that this line has already been spouted many times in relation to the Iraq war, and it won't take long for the Euro-twit leftists here and abroad make the same kind of argument about what's happening in France.
381 posted on 11/07/2005 1:02:44 PM PST by Enchante (Joe Wilson: "I don't know anything about uranium, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night!")
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All I have to say about this whole France burning thing is:

Pass the popcorn.


382 posted on 11/07/2005 1:10:33 PM PST by Miztiki (Pearland, TX (just south/southeast of Houston))
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To: dfwddr
Where's Looter Guy at this point ???

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383 posted on 11/07/2005 1:10:57 PM PST by USAConstitution
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To: Vicomte13
If Sarkozy has sufficient authority to resist Chirac and Villepin and is not in danger to being fired, is the current course of action what he wants or is he being held back? Is looks like he has been marginalized by Villepin and is not making key decisions.
384 posted on 11/07/2005 1:12:09 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Chanticleer
I do think they have some points. Unemployment of 50% when at the height of the Depression, it was 25% here, is pretty tough to imagine.

Hardline imams tell young muslims that it is an insult to islam to work with the infidel. Young muslims are taught that it is better to weaken the kuffar by going on the dole than to contribute to kuffar productivity. Young muslims must obey the diktats of the Koran. They must do just as they are now doing. Jihad.

385 posted on 11/07/2005 1:20:04 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: ken5050
Whwn will the burn down EuroDisney?

This would probably be the only benefit to this madness..

386 posted on 11/07/2005 1:21:06 PM PST by Experiment 6-2-6 (Admn Mods: tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners.They have pins and dolls..)
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To: counterpunch
counterpunch said:

It won't be long until the Left in America follow suit.

I don't think it will get to that point in the US. Here's why: People just like us.

If the leftists moonbats decide 'enough is enough' and start rioting to "force their beliefs/topple the 'Bush regime'/whatever", the riots won't last more than a day. If the police can't or don't do anything, there are thousands, if not millions of ARMED Americans that will pull out their hunting rifles and take to the streets to defend their property. If someone wants to pour a flammable liquid on a handicapped woman and set her on fire (as has happened in France), they will end up with a large hole in their body that God did not put there.

In the backs of their minds, the Left in America know this. If they riot, they risk utter decimation by a large number of hacked-off conservatives with heavy firepower. Count on it.
387 posted on 11/07/2005 1:23:34 PM PST by hoagy62 (Revolution is now the only option....)
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To: kalee
Thay are easily so offended.

By contrast.....we Westerners/Israelis shouldn't feel a thing over such trivial matters as beheadings, bombings, planes crashing into buildings, naval ships exploding, skyscrapers imploding......we infidels are such "reactionaries."

388 posted on 11/07/2005 1:24:09 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Dane

Muslims want autonomy, and they want it in writing. Carve up sections of France and hand it over. They'll set the rules, sharia, whatever. Infidels stay out, hands off. If the French govt. goes into any kind of 'talks' with 'helpful' mullahs, this will be the deal, and they might as well leap off tall buildings (the mullahs say it's okay to throw homosexuals off tall buildings, head first), for France will be finished.


389 posted on 11/07/2005 1:27:54 PM PST by hershey
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To: Dane
In Grigny, south of the capital, a gang of around 200 youths are reported to have lured police into a housing estate before opening fire with hunting rifles. At least 30 officers were injured, two seriously with lead pellets in the legs and neck.

Hunting rifles do not shoot "pellets". Sounds like shot guns.

390 posted on 11/07/2005 1:28:51 PM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Truth29

"If Sarkozy has sufficient authority to resist Chirac and Villepin and is not in danger to being fired, is the current course of action what he wants or is he being held back? Is looks like he has been marginalized by Villepin and is not making key decisions."

Sarkozy has the political power to hold his job, probably.
But he is not being allowed to dispatch forces and use them as he might see fit. That is now in the hands of the PM and the President.


391 posted on 11/07/2005 1:29:45 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: hershey
If the French govt. goes into any kind of 'talks' with 'helpful' mullahs

Too late. The negotiations have already happened, and the fatwah is issued to "those who seek divine graces".

392 posted on 11/07/2005 1:33:55 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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To: Truth29

Bingo. And meanwhile, outside mullahs are stirring the pot, you can bet on that. Bin Laden and pals will direct the rioters and any talks that come out of a 'ceasefire', and they want autonomy. Just a first step. After that, they'll demand a certain number of important ministerial posts, and end up controlling the country.


393 posted on 11/07/2005 1:33:59 PM PST by hershey
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To: USAConstitution

ROFLMAO !!!!


394 posted on 11/07/2005 1:34:31 PM PST by dfwddr (What's the use of happiness? It can't buy you money.)
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To: hershey

They might see recognized autonomy as their only solution, an extension of their present extralegal status. If done correctly, they would end up totally integrated and legal, and prefer that situation. Most people in the third world would prefer to be integrated, but the Gummint/lawyer situation has made it next to impossible. The rioters in France are third world, and not by choice. France has failed to expand its legal property system to include them.


395 posted on 11/07/2005 1:38:45 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Dane
French police made 395 arrests last night...

I guess that means 395 of the rioters turned themselves in.

396 posted on 11/07/2005 1:39:43 PM PST by WillamShakespeare (What is a John Kerry?)
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To: starbase

France has nukes and quite a few nuclear power plants, so we can't let Muslims take over.


397 posted on 11/07/2005 1:40:25 PM PST by hershey
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To: hershey
Muslims want autonomy, and they want it in writing. Carve up sections of France and hand it over. They'll set the rules, sharia, whatever. Infidels stay out, hands off.

That is precisely what this is about. Chirac agreed when Algerians wanted to immigrate that they would not have to assimilate and they haven't. What is happening in France has absolutely nothing to do with unemployment. Employment would lead to assimilation and that leads to apostasy.

These "riots" are about the establishment of Islamic countries within France and Europe that obey Sharia. At least that is their initial plan. Once they have their own little territories they will begin to expand and convert and subjugate and kill.

They chose this time to locate France's weak underbelly and they have learned that France (at least the leadership) is all underbelly. France's capitulation says to the muslims, "take it, just don't hurt us." France has indicated it is willing to assume the classic role of dhimmi.

Unless, Sarkozy or someone else who is willing to fight is given the authority to act soon, it is over for France. The rest of the west will have to make plans shortly to secure France's nuclear arsenal so that it doesn't fall into Islamic hands.

398 posted on 11/07/2005 1:44:04 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Aquinasfan

France has a history of strikes and marches, people in the streets, so after a while, they get accustomed to it and think it'll blow over the same way it always has. Unfortunately, this time Muslims are rioting, and they have an agenda that means the end of France, the end of Europe, and with easy travel in the EU, no papers, outside terrorists can come in by train. Well, they'll be orchestrating everything over the internet or by cell phone, anyway. France should have smashed this fast and hard, and now it's too late.


399 posted on 11/07/2005 1:45:00 PM PST by hershey
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To: Wolfstar
I believe the American people will cave just as readily as the French.

I don't think so, Scooter.

We still have 250 million guns (plus or minus) in private hands in this country. Riots like this may happen in NY City, Chicago, etc. If riot's like this happened anyware else, there would be lots of dead rioters after day one, plus US law enforcement would deal with the riots with more force than the French have to date.

400 posted on 11/07/2005 1:45:59 PM PST by Doomonyou (FR doesn't suffer fools lightly.)
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