Posted on 11/06/2005 5:07:47 AM PST by Dane
Pinging some European FRiends... here is the latest "Paris" thread...
If they bomb the Eiffel Tower, Paris will lose a landmark. If they down two or three or four French airliners, hundreds of Frenchmen will die.
"C'est la guerre."
Even among the Cindy Sheehan crowd, where 2,000 war casualties brings about anguished demands for surrender, a "take over" would be quite a different matter. Even such a group would only put up with their own enslavement for a certain period of time before they would be calling out for Islamo-fascist blood.
A "take over" is only possible when a conqueror has enough firepower to be able to put down any challange to its occupation by force of arms. That takes an Ottoman Army or a German Army or a Soviet Army or a U.S. Army.
At the current time, the Muslims in Europe don't have that. All they can do is terrorise which, in the end, is the tactic of an armed force that is too weak to attack anything but "soft targets".
In the end, Europe is merely allowing itself to be terrorized and these Muslims are risking the awakening of Europe's ancient demons.
Europe and France may seem, as you say, "so panty-waist" at the present time. However, given enough provocation, the Frenchman and the other Europeans can turn into quite a viscious and bloodthirsty bunch of savages.
[...Don't we all take this step on our journey to conservatism?...]
Yes, if you are an honest, humble human being.
ChIraq and his buddies are liberals who run on power fueled by greed. They panic not because of what is happening to their country..., they panic because of what is happening to them.
If Martel has earned the title of "The Hammer" then de Villepin and Chirac will be known by history as "The Marshmallows" ...
When France and other leftwads proclaim that "Bush had no plan to win the peace" they are really proclaiming that their own plans are intended to LOSE the peace. :-)
Group Captain Lionel Mandrake actually, but I guess Dr. Strangelove was already taken.
Notice MSNBC and CNN aren't covering the French Riots. When they do its buried under other items, especially Anti-Bush pieces. And of course, there is no mention what kind of "youths" are rioting, only that it's France's fault for not doing enough for them. Fox had Timmerman on and what he said was chilling. He talked about the real brave Frenchmen blowing up if this thing continues and said the riots had been in the making for the last 30 years.
What I notice is that CNN is trying to play down the Muslim aspect of the riots. They only mention poverty and how unfair the police are to these poor "youths". If only CNN could somehow blame this on President Bush we would see French Riots 24/7.
Your argument is quite sensible except that Islam doesn't expect to take over by military means. They (muslims) are waging a war of religious and cultural attrition. They also wage war on many fronts at once.
They use the cultural sensitivity of the west as a lever to gain recognition of their culture and at the same time they seek to reduce Judeo/Christian/western cultural influence by calling the symbols of that world insults to Islam. They take territory by creating and expanding ghettoes that become "no go" areas for their host country's police. They expand their population with high birth rates and they influence politics by voting as a bloc.
Furthermore, the imams teach the young men that it is an insult to Islam to take a job with the infidel (working at a productive job strengthens the infidel economy). Young men are encouraged to be a drain on their host by going on the dole (which they see actually as the Jizya, or dhimmi tax).
Their last attempt to take Europe militarily failed because of "The Hammer" at Tours and Jan Sobieski at Vienna.
This time, using the technique of a multi-front religious war, they have surrounded Paris and their enemy's leaders are trying to figure how to appease them.
And it proves once more that Bush and people like him are right, and kerry and people like him and the libs and french, are wrong. You don't placate radicals, you deal with them with a strong hand, and when they do things like this, you shoot to kill. THAT is how you stop it. This whole france thing is a MAJOR indictment of the liberal mind set and how they would handle the war on terror. Because it is happening to the very people who are the biggest opponants to our handling of the war on terror.
I mean, this will end any argument with a liberal and leave them with only insults and vulgarity to throw back. All you have to do when they complain about the war is "Really? So we should have done things like france said? They can't even control their own country and a 10% muslim population has thrown them into national chaos! But you think they could fight an international global war on terrroism effectively, when they can't even get their own muslims to behave in a civilized manor, after two kids run and electricute themselves when the police weren't even chasing them." WHAMO!!! Argument over. This is great for the Bush agenda and the conservative agenda and the war. The chief opponants to war in Iraq have just shownt he world they don't know JACK about what they say.
Best comment (among many excellent ones) on this thread!
Your entire post is on the money. Thank you!
You'd think France had won a sporting championship.
Actually, it was King Ferdinand #? was the one who kick muslim ass and took names. That's why Ysabel married him.
Islamist militants are organizing the riots.
Brilliant post #94. In TX we would talk to rioters, too.
That is, once a Ranger's boot is on their face and a shotgun aimed midsection. Converse all you want then!
I didn't know that about Ferdinand. MANHOOD, you don't see it in France now.
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