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Thousand cars torched in latest French riots(Paris/France burns, Live Thread Night #11)
Reuters ^ | 11/06/05 | Elisabeth Pineau

Posted on 11/06/2005 5:07:47 AM PST by Dane

Thousand cars torched in latest French riots Sun Nov 6, 2005 12:17 PM GMT

By Elisabeth Pineau

PARIS (Reuters) - Gangs of youths torched 1,300 vehicles overnight in the 10th consecutive night of violence in Paris's poor suburbs and major French towns, despite the deployment of thousands of extra police.

Cars were burnt out in the historic centre of Paris for the first time on Saturday night. In the normally quiet Normandy town of Evreux, a shopping mall, 50 vehicles, a post office and two schools went up in flames.

Authorities have so far found no way beyond appeals and more police to address a problem with complex social, economic and racial causes.

Evreux mayor Jean-Louis Debre, a confidant of President Jacques Chirac and speaker of the lower house of parliament, told France Info radio:

"To those responsible for the violence, I want to say: Be serious ... If you want to live in a fairer, more fraternal society, this is not how to go about it."

The deaths 10 days ago of two youths apparently fleeing police ignited pent up frustrations among young men, many of them Muslims of North and black African origin, at racism, unemployment, their marginal place in French society and their treatment by the police.

"Many youths have never seen their parents work and couldn't hold down a job if they got one," said Claude Chevallier, manager of a burned-out carpet depot in the rundown Paris suburb of Aulnay-sous-Bois.

But authorities now say the rolling nightly riots are being organised via the Internet and mobile phones, and have pointed the finger at drug traffickers and Islamist militants.

Overnight, 1,295 vehicles were torched across France, the highest total so far, police said. An extra 2,300 officers have been drafted in.

Seven police helicopters buzzed over the Paris region through the night, filming disturbances and directing mobile squads to incidents. Overnight, police made 349 arrests.

The number of incidents in the Paris region was similar to the night before, but in the provinces it was up sharply.

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The violence has tarnished France's image abroad, forcing Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin to cancel a trip to Canada, while Russia and the United States have warned their citizens to avoid Paris's troubled suburbs.

Villepin has combined a call for an end to the riots with dialogue with community leaders, youngsters and local officials, and has promised an action plan for 750 tough neighbourhoods.

"I'll make proposals as early as this week," the weekly Journal du Dimanche quoted him as saying.

But it remained unclear what could stop the violence, though some opposition parties have suggested a symbolic measure -- the resignation of Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy.

Accused of stoking passions by calling troublemakers "scum", Sarkozy has ignored calls to quit. A survey published on Sunday indicated his public image was holding up, even if many disapproved of his strong language.

Villepin also has ambitions to be the right wing's presidential candidate in 2007 and has tried to position himself as a much more consensual figure than Sarkozy; the effect on the crisis on his ratings is still unclear.

With no end in sight to the nights of wailing sirens, acrid smoke, stone-throwing and destruction, residents from all ethnic backgrounds are tiring of the unrest.

"My kids can't sleep at night," said a mother named Samia in Aulnay-sous-Bois. "They hear explosions, they see fires and they think they're in a war. When the slightest thing happens, they get anxious and say 'Mama, what's going on?'"


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KEYWORDS: charlesmartel; france; insurgency; parisriots
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To: Dane

I have no pity left for the French and their post-modernist allies. They are merely reaping what they planted.


141 posted on 11/06/2005 7:08:15 AM PST by indcons ("Not all muslims are terrorists; however, all terrorists today are muslims." - George Fernandez)
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To: Fishtalk

;-) Truth is so simple.


143 posted on 11/06/2005 7:09:25 AM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Pookyhead
Every person in the world 10 years and older knows what response would stop this nonsense immediately, namely, use of deadly force, evictions, and expulsion.

You are right. Unfortunately the "civilized" world won't do this. If it happened here we wouldn't either, at least not our government.

144 posted on 11/06/2005 7:10:36 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Dane

Can't we all just get along?


145 posted on 11/06/2005 7:11:13 AM PST by petercooper (The Republican Party: We Suck Less.)
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To: stopem

Say what you want about Mexicans, they have a hard work ethic and would rather work for $$$ than blow up cars.


146 posted on 11/06/2005 7:14:42 AM PST by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton)
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To: samtheman

Even if the French killed that many rather than arresting them, the Muslims would simply outbreed the casualty rate.


147 posted on 11/06/2005 7:15:17 AM PST by thoughtomator (Alito Akbar)
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To: EGPWS

Sounds like the 'Libs', group hugs everyone!


148 posted on 11/06/2005 7:15:39 AM PST by Eighth Square
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To: bannie
You mean, most of the brave ones died in WW I---and only a few remained who fought hard in WW II? And even most of them are gone?

France's problem from 1870 to 1919 was not lack of courage. Quite the contrary, they elevated "elan" to ridiculous levels over common sense and tactical understanding. They they swung 180 degrees the other way. But the French army at Dienbienphu and in Algeria gave em hell. I'd get in a foxhole with those guys any day.

149 posted on 11/06/2005 7:17:08 AM PST by LS
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To: Dane
But it remained unclear what could stop the violence, though some opposition parties have suggested a symbolic measure -- the resignation of Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy.

Identified in other articles as the French Communist Party and the Green Party, which is possibly what Sarkozy is referring to when he says these riots are "organized" -- the commies know how to throw a good riot.

Link to one of those articles

150 posted on 11/06/2005 7:17:21 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: petercooper

In his book "Death Of The West" Pat Buchannan writes about how Moslem populations will change Western Europe. It is already happening. And Europeans being sheep are too stupid to see what is happening and are trying to appease these Monsters. We can also see what Socialist Policies are doing, making economic failures worse. The Social Welfare policies of France have removed the dignity of work and self determination. Return to a more free Market economy and see the improvement in the lives of their people. France is a mess. Its leaders are corrupt and cowards. Another example of Socialism's failures to deliver the goods.

This is what the Demorats want to bring here to the US. Where are all the Demorats including Misseur Kerry intoning how Wonderful France is? Send in the Legion and crush the Intifida in France.


152 posted on 11/06/2005 7:18:05 AM PST by Khankrumthebulgar
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To: freeangel

Amen!


153 posted on 11/06/2005 7:18:20 AM PST by Eighth Square
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To: GVgirl
"To those responsible for the violence, I want to say: Be serious ... If you want to live in a fairer, more fraternal society, this is not how to go about it" De Villepin: "I'll make proposals as early as this week," Gotta love that "get tough" attitude. /sarcasm>

What's scary is that this is similar to Clinton's response to the first WTC bombing, etc. and WE ended up with 9/11. At this point, it may be "youths" mostly involved with these riots, but as they have accelerated and grown larger, there is obviously a hand behind it, and you gotta wonder what else is being planned in the shadows.
154 posted on 11/06/2005 7:18:21 AM PST by ChocChipCookie (Democrats: soulless minions of orthodoxy.)
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To: DB
"Unbelievable. They are inviting far worse as the rioters think they're winning. And they are..."
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If I'm following this correctly, the tactics they're using are pretty clever. They firebomb property, but do not kill civilians or police, yet. They are terrorizing the govt. into making concessions. If they begin killing anyone, then the military will come in declare martial law and start shooting them, this way France will surrender to them bit by bit over time thinking its just disaffected utes.
155 posted on 11/06/2005 7:18:40 AM PST by wmfights (lead, follow, or get out of the way)
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To: grey_whiskers

Huh??? I was quaking in my shoes reading that. They are really serious now!


156 posted on 11/06/2005 7:20:11 AM PST by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton)
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To: Khankrumthebulgar

Haven't read that but have read recently:

"The West's Last Chance" Blankley

http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?PAGE=PRODUCT&PROD_ID=1533285&cid=64664&fp=F

and

"New Glory" Peters

http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?page=proframe&prod_id=1407425

Peters book opens with something similar were seeing right now the past 10 ten days.


157 posted on 11/06/2005 7:24:00 AM PST by Ray66
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Inside the city, three cars were damaged by fire from gasoline bombs near the Place de la Republique neighborhood, where residents said they heard a loud explosion and saw flames shooting into the sky. Police found a gasoline bomb-making factory in a rundown building in Evry, a southern Paris suburb that contained 150 explosives, more than 100 bottles, gallons of fuel and hoods for hiding rioters' faces, Jean-Marie Huet, a senior Justice Ministry official, said Sunday. THE VIOLENCE: Triggered by an outburst of fury over the accidental electrocution of two teenagers of north African descent, the unrest has taken on unprecedented scope and intensity it started on since Oct. 27. Most rioting has been in towns with large immigrant populations and low-income housing projects where unemployment and distrust of police run high. But on Saturday, arsonists moved beyond their heavily policed neighborhoods to attack others with less security. The number of cars torched overnight - 1,295 across France - was the highest since the violence began

Also last night the LA Times reported that 11 cars were torched near the Gare du Nord(North Train Station).

Map of Paris below.

Republique is to the right of the Louvre and Gare Du Nord is directly north.

158 posted on 11/06/2005 7:24:19 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
Hey France... cry me a river.

You made your bed by allowing the dregs of humanity to pour into your country.

Do not ask for help... do it your damn self.

159 posted on 11/06/2005 7:25:22 AM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Dane
When they burn 2,000 cars, let hold vigils at the French Embassy and CBS News...
160 posted on 11/06/2005 7:27:17 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Franken screwed so many at the Boys and Girls Club that NAMBLA wants to give him an award!)
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