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Jersey City Drops Plan To Seize Tavern
1010 WINS AM NY ^ | 11/5/05 | 1010 WINS AM

Posted on 11/05/2005 6:00:57 PM PST by chet_in_ny

(JERSEY CITY) The city has dropped a plan to use its power of eminent domain to seize a neighborhood bar and turn the land over to a Roman Catholic high school, Mayor Jerramiah T. Healy said Friday.

Healy said he made the decision "after weighing all the issues" between property owner Cheng Tan, proprietor of the Golden Cicada tavern, and St. Peter's Prep, which wants the land to expand its football field.

"There are instances when the city's taking of private property for public purpose is appropriate, but this is not one of those instances," Healy said in a written statement.

The school built a new field last year next to the Golden Cicada, but its president, the Rev. James Keenan, has said it needs to be lengthened in order for the school's team to play its home games there.

Tan had rejected offers from the school to purchase part of his property.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: eminentdomain
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I agree with the city's decision but the ACLU guy's comments are too funny.
1 posted on 11/05/2005 6:00:59 PM PST by chet_in_ny
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To: chet_in_ny

I agree with you the comment coming from someone from the ACLU was funny.........however, there should never have been any consideration by the city to invoke ED in this situation and the school/Church should never have broached it.......and I say that as a Roman Catholic.


2 posted on 11/05/2005 6:05:16 PM PST by Gabz
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To: chet_in_ny

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbor's.


3 posted on 11/05/2005 6:05:40 PM PST by Aznar5
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does that include lawn mowers and hedge trimmers??


4 posted on 11/05/2005 6:07:02 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (Islam is a religion of peace and they'll behead you to prove it...)
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To: chet_in_ny
The school built a new field last year next to the Golden Cicada, but its president, the Rev. James Keenan, has said it needs to be lengthened in order for the school's team to play its home games there.

Are they currently playing on a field that is less than 100 yards?

5 posted on 11/05/2005 6:08:02 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: chet_in_ny

I agree with the city's decision, too. I don't drink, and I'm all for tearing down a bar to expand the soccer field for a Catholic school. But the way that sort of thing should happen in a free and democratic country is that the school either pays whatever price the man is willing to sell his bar for, or they don't get the property.


6 posted on 11/05/2005 6:09:54 PM PST by solzhenitsyn ("Live Not By Lies")
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To: chet_in_ny

I think it is a very rare case when the government should be allowed to take someone's private property, such as when a highway or railroad, or even power lines need to come through. This entire government land grab is not only unconstitutional, is is totally un-American.


7 posted on 11/05/2005 6:12:08 PM PST by TommyDale
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does that include lawn mowers and hedge trimmers??

Those weren't on the list so they are probably free for the taking...although I did know a women that took her neighbors hedge trimmers out of his trash. She is dead now, electrocuted when using the trimmers. Guess they were in the trash for a reason.

8 posted on 11/05/2005 6:13:44 PM PST by LittleRedRooster
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To: chet_in_ny

The school built a new field last year next to the Golden Cicada, but its president, the Rev. James Keenan, has said it needs to be lengthened in order for the school's team to play its home games there.

Damn football rules keep changing. Only last year, the football field was long enough.

9 posted on 11/05/2005 6:18:17 PM PST by elli1
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Yo this Tan guy, his ass ain't coveted, it's outa here. He should thank his heathen gods this didn't happen in Bayonne, Barney Frank's home town. Those boys woulda given him two wit column A, and some cement water wings.

In Bayonne, a Chinese Restaurant would be Eminent Domain toast if the Elks Club needed a new ladies' room (which, btw, it does)!

10 posted on 11/05/2005 6:20:41 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Valerie Plame was about as much of a Secret Agent as Aunt Jemima.)
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To: elli1

Good point.

But it brings up a question I should have thought of before my post.....what is a school doing building anything next to a BAR????????


11 posted on 11/05/2005 6:22:24 PM PST by Gabz
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"There are instances when the city's taking of private property for public purpose is appropriate, but this is not one of those instances,"

Healy wasn't offered enough money for him to use his god like power over the property owner. How nice of him. These mayoral lords should never have that power to begin with. Eminent Domain is the bastardization of our free society thanks to the socialist SCOTUS.
12 posted on 11/05/2005 6:23:40 PM PST by PositiveCogins
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Apparently, St. Peter's Prep has spent around $4 million on 'The Field That Is Too Short'.

Link

Now, they're worried about "the possibility of a youngster being injured by running into the rear of the buildings on Grand St." Guess there wasn't room in the $4 million budget for fence.

But backing up, StPeter's Prep 'needs' the land to lengthen the field for home football games...that'd be, what, 5-6 games a year? Put a guy out of business, force employees onto the unemployment line, take tax-paying property off the rolls and into tax-exempt status, trample all over property rights for a half-dozen high school football games per year?

13 posted on 11/05/2005 6:42:17 PM PST by elli1
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The school last year built a new field adjacent to the Golden Cicada, but the Rev. James Keenan, St. Peter's president, said it is 7 yards shy of regulation and must be lengthened for the varsity to play its home games there.

Lots more info here:

Jersey City Tries to Seize Bar For Private School's Field

14 posted on 11/05/2005 6:51:25 PM PST by elli1
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in order for the school's team to play its home games there.

Can they play their away games there?
15 posted on 11/05/2005 6:52:44 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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I met Cheng Tan at an event for Steve Lonegan. Mr. Tan explained his predicament in detail. It seems the school obtained permission to build the field, claiming they would make no further request for additional land. After they built the first phase, they then tried to use eminent domain to complete the second phase (which was most likely part of the original plan.)

Mr. Tan said was never offered what he considered a reasonable offer for his business.


16 posted on 11/05/2005 6:53:58 PM PST by Ziva (Sometimes it takes SIX Grand Juries to indict a ham sandwich!)
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To: chet_in_ny

Apparently there wasn't a big enough tax advantage to Jersey City to warrant the unconstitutional misuse of eminent domain so the dropped their plans. They're holding out for a big retail developer to step up to the plate.


17 posted on 11/05/2005 6:58:00 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: elli1

Pretty much my thinking on all points.


18 posted on 11/05/2005 6:59:55 PM PST by Gabz
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To: chet_in_ny

No one gonna mess with the neighborhood bar. CHEERS....


19 posted on 11/05/2005 7:32:04 PM PST by ONETWOONE (onetwoone)
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"There are instances when the city's taking of private property for public purpose is appropriate, but this is not one of those instances," Healy said in a written statement.

The Constitution permits eminent domain for public use not for a public purpose. The senile bats at the SCOTUS have opened a major can of worms and declared war on private property.

20 posted on 11/05/2005 9:38:10 PM PST by Myrddin
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