Posted on 11/04/2005 5:54:41 AM PST by .cnI redruM
House Republicans are looking closely at ending birthright citizenship and building a barrier along the entire U.S.-Mexico border as they search for solutions to illegal immigration.
A task force of party leaders and members active on immigration has met since the summer to try to figure out where consensus exists, and several participants said those two ideas have floated to the top of the list of possibilities to be included either in an immigration-enforcement bill later this year or in a later comprehensive immigration overhaul.
"There is a general agreement about the fact that citizenship in this country should not be bestowed on people who are the children of folks who come into this country illegally," said Rep. Tom Tancredo, Colorado Republican, who is participating in the "unity dinners," the group of Republicans trying to find consensus on immigration.
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Precisely. Thank you.
Don't give the government too much power - remember, as much as it seems unlikely, there will be a time when the Dims have a majority. Whatever power you give "our" Congress you are also giving to them.
Tom Tancredo has more balls than President Bush ever will.
I hope this goes somewhere, but I'm just assuming the spineless Republicans will collapse under the weight of the "racism" charges from the Left.
You seen this yet???
Then remove those benefits by ending sponsorship or prohibiting a citizen from sponsoring someone who has come here or is here illegally.
Precisely. Let the child retain citizenship, but eliminate the parent's ability to exploit that citizenship for his/her own benefit.
You seriously don't think there is a difference between a documented LEGAL immigrant and an illegal immigrant? How does one prove their parents were here legally? No one is talking about making this retroactive.
This isn't about curbing LEGAL immigration, it's about the rights of LEGAL citizens, alien or native, IMHO.
Then what do we do with all the newborn citizens when we deport the parents? We can't deport the children if we grant them citizenship.
Wishful thinking, I am afraid.
Not every illegal immigrant snuck across the border. IIRC, most illegals entered the U.S. legally with visas and have overstayed. So yes, sometimes it is a matter of paperwork. And questions of how to prove it are valid, IMO. Are we going to DHS agents stationed at hospital to check each parent's citizenship or resident status? Or would you need to carry around you parent's birth citizenship papers along with your own to prove citizenship?
No candidate for president, Republican, or Democrat will get elected, unless they adopt some of this "Nut Jobs" attitude about the illegal issue, and you can take that to the bank.
Illegal immigrants who are deported do take their children with them. The citizen children can come back as adults and claim their U.S. citizenship.
Ahh, I see your question now. That sounds more like a matter of logistics than a philosophical or conceptual difference. Thanks for the clarification.
I don't really have the answer except to say maybe the lack of a social security card might be used as an indicator. It's not about stopping the birth of any babies, it's about the paperwork surrounding the baby after the birth (and the family that gets sponsored).
As things currently stand, they are given rights superior to the babies of American citizens. They are automatically citizens of two countries (dual citizens) or if the baby's illegal parents happen to have come here illegally from two different countries, they are potentially tri-citizens.
I am not particularly jealous of their citizenship in various third world hell-holes but I am very concerned that their dual (or tri) citizenship status leaves them with divided loyalties that could potentially make them less than loyal American citizens. For example they could be pursuaded to vote in ways that were not necessarily in the best interests of other Americans.
It seems to me that you are right, so why has congress failed to exercize its authority?
I have felt for a long time now that congress's true will is carried out by the courts. They let the courts do what they know their constituents would not approve of. The why of it is what alludes me.
A moat, with hungry crocodiles, would be a cooler option.
Right, but they would have to impeach themselves, how would that work, in your opinion.
We could make it so a child with duel citizenship, once they reached legal adulthood or even beforehand, would have to renounce his or her citizenship in all other countries. I believe that naturalized citizens were made to give up their citizenship in their home country prior to being sworn in as a U.S. citizen- I believe that they have gotten rid of that rule, however.
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