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As Democrats Lead Opposition, GOP Moderates May Control Vote
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| 11/1/05
| Charles Babington
Posted on 10/31/2005 8:57:20 PM PST by nj26
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RINO Tier 1: Snowe, Collins, Chafee, Specter, McCain (5) RINO Tier 2: Voinovich, Graham, DeWine, Warner, Hutchison (5)
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posted on
10/31/2005 8:57:21 PM PST
by
nj26
To: nj26
GOP Senators overwhelmingly confirm radical/activist/socialist Ginsburg without putting up
any fight and the Dems are set to filibuster an originalist.
Sad state of affairs.
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posted on
10/31/2005 9:03:58 PM PST
by
Mr. Mojo
To: nj26
Unless the RINOs can find something scandulous in Alito's past, they may as well leave the party if the don't support him.
McCain is really screwed on this one. There is no way he can succesfully run for the Republican presidential nomination and vote against a highly qualified conservative supreme court nominee.
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posted on
10/31/2005 9:04:49 PM PST
by
Maynerd
To: Maynerd
Exactly. I expect Graham, DeWine and Warner to vote for Alito and McCain will eventually come home. We'll probably pick up Ben Nelson and Feingold and in the end Alito will get 64 or 65 votes in the Senate. All of this shouting is much ado about nothing. Every one knows that even if
Roe were overturned, all that would do is allow each state to decide the issue. So the notion women are going to be forced into back alley illegal abortions is pure hogwash.
("Denny Crane: Gun Control? For Communists. She's a liberal. Can't hunt.")
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posted on
10/31/2005 9:09:43 PM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: goldstategop
We'll probably pick up Ben Nelson and Feingold and in the end Alito will get 64 or 65 votes in the Senate. While I'm guessing your numbers are right and that there will be quite a few Democrats that vote to confirm, why are you singling out Feingold? Nelson is a safe pick as he is probably the most "republican" of the Democrats, but I'm not understanding the Feingold pick. Has he said something I'm not aware of?
To: nj26
DeWine and Graham have already gone on the record - no filibuster deal.
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posted on
10/31/2005 9:16:38 PM PST
by
CyberAnt
(I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
To: nj26
This is a perfect situation for us.
We win either way. We get Alito on the Court, or we out the RINO's forever in the Party. As well as put the Dems on the hot seats in red states under intense scrutiny. Then we use their choices to exact vengence in '06, '08 and '10 gaining enough seats to confirm Alito without them if he's denied now.
So, the question really should be, how many RINO's & DINO's feel lucky? ;-)
To: nj26
The roughly half-dozen GOP senators who support abortion rights are scrutinizing Alito's dissent in a major 1991 abortion case. If they determine that his judicial record or his answers to questions signal a willingness to overturn the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling that legalized abortion, they will fall under heavy pressure to oppose him, said congressional scholars and analysts. It is possible to be pro-choice and also originalist and anti-Roe. Reversal of Roe will just kick the issue back to the states where it should have been all along.
To: Bluegrass Conservative
He voted for Roberts. And he may end up voting for Alito. Of all the Democrats, he's so far reserved judgment on how he will vote which is a good sign. The extreme liberals are busily denouncing the President's new nominee and they would have come out against any conservative. So its Democrats in the Red and Purple states that would be comfortable with Bush's pick.
("Denny Crane: Gun Control? For Communists. She's a liberal. Can't hunt.")
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posted on
10/31/2005 9:19:52 PM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Bluegrass Conservative
Wisconsin is becoming a competitive state for Republicans. Feingold is aware of this, which is why he voted for Roberts. He does have the buffer of being the only Dem to vote against the war, it gives him a little leeway with the Dem base in his quest for their Presidential nomination.
Still, Roberts was one vote not likely to change balance. The question now is the calculation he'll make. Senatorial long term viability vs edging a competitive lead to be president. Two different constituencies to balance in this decision.
To: goldstategop
Feingold is interested in running for president though. How does he vote for Roberts AND Alito (assuming Alito is a relatively close vote) and still try to appeal to Democrat primary voters?
To: goldstategop
Judge Alito would be only ONE of the Justices. I really don't know why the Pro folks would be so offended. Besides, I think there is a HUGE difference between notifing HUSBANDS and being totally against abortion!
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posted on
10/31/2005 9:42:19 PM PST
by
singfreedom
("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
To: goldstategop
Every one knows that even if Roe were overturned, all that would do is allow each state to decide the issue. So the notion women are going to be forced into back alley illegal abortions is pure hogwash.I think you are correct, so what is really going on here? Could it be that the real fear is ending up with a Supreme Court that adheres to the Constitution as a principle across the board and an end to the ability to keep conservatives off of the courts simply because they are conservative? What a nightmare for "progressives".
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posted on
11/01/2005 12:27:43 AM PST
by
Bahbah
(Tony Schaffer is a hero)
To: nj26
I would not count on Snowe or Collins. They may not be able to survive in their home states if they vote for Alito. I also think Specter will join the other side; he's been quite unambiguous about where he comes down on pro-life judges.
To: nj26
I don't think Kay will dare vote against Alito. If she does, she is gone.
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posted on
11/01/2005 12:43:28 AM PST
by
mathluv
To: Bahbah
I think you are correct, so what is really going on here? If Roe is overturned abortion will become illegal in many parts of the country, and heavily restricted in others. For one who believes in a woman's right to abortion, an objection to anti-Roe judges is then quite rational.
To: mathluv
I don't think Kay will dare vote against Alito. If she does, she is gone.Word. I can a handle a RINO from Maine or Rhode Island, but there's no excuse for one from Texas.
To: SpringheelJack
'I can a handle a RINO from Maine or Rhode Island, but there's no excuse for one from Texas.'
Kay has ambitions. She wanted to run for gov, but that has been quashed (I think). I agree with you about the NE RINOs. McCain was wishy-washy on H&C last night. We will see about the others.
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posted on
11/01/2005 1:00:34 AM PST
by
mathluv
To: nj26
RINO Tier 1: Snowe, Collins, Chafee, Specter, McCain (5) RINO Tier 2: Voinovich, Graham, DeWine, Warner, Hutchison (5) How can you leave Harkins off this list?
To: nj26
How many democrat (DINO) Senators are there that are really in cahoots with the republicans????
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posted on
11/01/2005 2:59:47 AM PST
by
cynicom
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