Al Aqsa leader: Jews have no right to Mount

worldnetdaily ^ | October 22, 2005 | Aaron Klein

[ovrtaxt]

FROM WND'S JERUSALEM BUREAU

Al Aqsa leader: Jews have no right to Mount

In WND interview claims mosque 'was built by the angels'

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Posted: October 22, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Following is a WorldNetDaily exclusive interview with Sheik Kamal Hatib, vice-chairman of the Islamic Movement, the Muslim group in Israel most identified with Temple Mount militancy. The Movement, which Israel says is associated with Hamas, campaigns for Islamic control of Israeli holy sites, and has been calling the past few weeks for Muslims to ascend the Mount en mass to protect it from "Jewish attacks."

By Aaron Klein
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

WND: Who should have sovereignty over the Temple Mount – Jews, Christians, or Muslims. Or should it be shared?

HATIB: We absolutely believe that Al Aqsa, all its different parts, all its walls, all its courts, and everything down the mosque or up it, all these fully belong to the Muslims. Only to them. No one other than the Muslims has any right over Al Aqsa, or even over any grain of its sand. We, the Muslims, insist and emphasize that the only sovereignty over Al Aqsa must be for the Muslims. We will not accept or recognize any other sovereignty, including shared control.

WND: But what about the previous Jewish Temples? Do you believe they existed? Do Jews have any historic claims to the Temple Mount whatsoever?

HATIB: We the Muslims believe that Al Aqsa was built since the time of Adam – God bless him. It was built 40 years after the construction of the Al Haram Mosque in Mecca which was built thousands of years ago. Al Aqsa was built by the angels as it is mentioned in a verse of the Quran. The mosque is mentioned in the Quran, which speaks about the raising of the prophet.

We believe that the Jewish Temples existed, but we deny they were built near Al Aqsa. When the First Temple was built by Solomon – God bless him – Al Aqsa was already built. We don't believe that a prophet like Solomon would have built the Temple at a place where a mosque existed.

WND: What you are saying contradicts reality. There is no serious scholar or archeologist in the world who argues Al Aqsa was built before the Jewish Temples. And if the Temples didn't exist on the Mount, what then do you say is the Western Wall? What do you make of all the archeological findings?

HATIB: About the Kotel (the Western Wall), we deny any relation between the Temple and the Al Aqsa Mosque. We believe that the Western Wall is part of the mosque and not the Wall of Lamentation, as the Jews say. ... The Western wall is an inseparable part of the mosque.

And all the historical and archeological facts deny any relation between the Temples and the location of Al Aqsa. We must know that Jerusalem was occupied and that people left many things, coins and other things everywhere. This does not mean in any way that there is a link between the people who left these things and the place where these things were left.

WND: You have been calling repeatedly for Muslims to protect Al Aqsa from Jewish attack. Which Jews exactly are trying to attack Al Aqsa?

HATIB: We believe the danger over Al Aqsa existed and continues. As long as Jewish groups have ambitions to reconstruct their Temple at the same place of Al Aqsa, the danger of an attack will still exist. Some of these Jewish extremist groups even believe the years between 2005-2007 is the period in which the Temple must be built, and not building it by then means the Lord's anger will be directed towards them, as they argue. Therefore, this is a very sensitive period and we call in a very loud voice to all who are concerned that the mosque is a redline for us, and any harm caused to it will bring a great catastrophe and a great disaster. The Israelis and the Jewish people will have to face one and a half billion Muslims from all over the world.

WND: It seems you and the Islamic Movement are using Al Aqsa as a political tool to incite Muslims against Israel.

HATIB: Our relation with Al Aqsa is not a political question. Far from that, it is a question of religion and faith. We have the honor to fill this role in favor of Al Aqsa. If the Israelis thought that the Arabs in Israel would not have strong relations and feelings towards Al Aqsa, then they were mistaken. This mosque will always be part of our faith. Our demand from the Israelis and the world is not to desecrate it.

WND: What if a Jew did attack the mosque?

HATIB: We suggest to the Jews and Israelis not to be dazzled from the weakness of our nation at this period. [Israeli Prime Minister Ariel] Sharon's provocative visit five years ago caused an intifada for the last five years and caused the killing of more than 4,000 Palestinians and more than 1,300 Israelis. Therefore we say that any attack against Al Aqsa means the deluge.

WND: You were talking about Al Aqsa being mentioned in the Quran. But I understand it is never directly mentioned. And the city of Jerusalem is not mentioned once. Commentators later concluded a verse about Muhammad descending to the furthest mosque referred to Al Aqsa. Meanwhile, Jerusalem is mentioned thousands of times throughout the Torah. Half the Torah is about Temple worship. Explain why you feel the Mount is not holy to Jews?

HATIB: The fact that Jerusalem is mentioned in the Torah does not in any way mean that the city was populated or built by the Jews. Everyone knows that when the prophet Abraham came from Arik in 1850 before Christ he was given by the Arab King Melchizedek the land where he and his wife lived in Hebron, and it was 600 years before Moses' message, which also proves that Abraham was not a Jew.

And your saying that our faith is based on this interpretation of the verse [about Al Aqsa] is a totally wrong analysis. The Al Aqsa of the Quran is the same Al Aqsa of our days, not any other mosque. That is what our Sharia says. As for what you say that Jerusalem is mentioned thousands of times in the Torah; it is not a matter of numbers and quantity. There is a very clear historical event mentioned in the Quran concerning the mosque that was built by Adam and where all our prophets prayed.

WND: Speaking of praying, currently, Jews and Christians can only ascend the Mount at certain hours on certain days, and only with approval from the Wafq (the Mount's Muslim custodians). If they go up, it is to tour. Non-Muslims are not allowed to pray on the Mount. Why is it so offensive to you if Jews or Christians pray on the Temple Mount?

HATIB: We don't want even these scheduled visits, which are allowed to take place only because of the Israeli occupation. The visits are not the result of a free choice of the Muslims and the Wafq. If it was not for Israel, these visits could not take place at all.

As a principle, we are not against the possibility that Jews and Christians enter our mosques, but in present there is a campaign against Al Aqsa and the Jewish occupation still has dangerous ambitions towards the mosque and every entry will be done to demonstrate a religious presence. Therefore, if they would enter freely into the mosque, there will be political consequences and interpretations that we cannot accept.

Speaking about the Christians, I say that every person who believes in God must act for peace and for love among human beings and not to help in creating hate and war. Unfortunately, the evangelical Christians believe in the necessity of a war of civilizations. Because of this belief, President Bush, supported by these groups, is leading this war against the Muslim world.

The crazy support of these Christian groups for Israel is based on their faith that the return of the Messiah – God bless him – would be in Israel. Therefore they support Israel, because they believe that the continuation of Israel to exist hastens the arrival of the Messiah. God forbid! The Messiah can never be the reason for war.

[mother22wife21]

Don't know about anyone else here, but 'islam','muslim','mosque', 'allah','mohammed',and
'koran' just make me ill to my stomach. I would rather deal with a three year old than one of these adherents.

[Antioch]

There's plenty of evidence that the Temple is underneath the Moose Limb's altar to the Moon God. In September, a First-Temple period seal was discovered amidst piles of rubble from Jerusalem’s Temple Mount. The small seal impression, or bulla, discovered by Bar-Ilan University archaeologist Dr. Gabriel Barkay amidst piles of rubble from the Temple Mount would mark the first time that a written artifact was found from the Temple Mount dating back to the First Temple period.

The 2,600-year-old artifact, with three lines in ancient Hebrew, is said to be the first of its kind from the time of King David. The seal was found amidst thousands of tons of rubble discarded by Wakf officials at city garbage dumps six years ago. In preparing the mount for the construction of a new entrance to an underground mosque the Waqf excavated over 70 truck loads of dirt and dumped it into the Kidron Valley. Isreali archeologists moved the rubble to Mount Scopus and began systematically sifting through it in November of 2004. The project has so far revealed weaponry, more than a hundred coins—many from the Hasmonean era—pottery sherds, jewelry, and even ancient marble columns.

[wigswest]

Interesting, thanks for that -

[mother22wife21]

Thanks for the edification. Archiving it.

[Slings and Arrows]

I believe that terrorists have no right to breathe. Why does the government keep interfering with the free practice of my religion?

[Antioch]

There's an interesting article and photos about this accidental Temple archeology here

There's an interesting article and photos about this accidental Temple archeology here

[mother22wife21]

Many thanks for the follow up, sending to brother as I disentangle my self from FR> :)

[SauronOfMordor]

The arab is playing with the interviewer's head. It's a game that those of arab culture like to play.

There is no requirement in Islam to tell the truth to non-Muslims, when so doing would not be to the benefit of non-Muslims.

The whole passage can be distilled down to the Muslim saying to the interviewer: "f--- you, we have the area of the mosque, we're not giving it up, we're not getting into any game of logic with you where we concede anything that you can build an argument upon".

[lilylangtree]

Brother, this murdering swine has his head up his a**.

[Sabramerican]

Look at the bright side. It's about property rights.

Usually they say we have no right to breath.

[RobbyS]

Voltaire had a very favorable view of Islam. He contrased what he supposed to be its rationality to the "superstition" of Christianity. Obviously he had nerver had any contact with actual Muslims. Christianity and Judaism both
had a long history of association with Greek rationalism, which ended with such luminaries as Thomas Aquinas and Mamonides. The Muslims had a similar figure, Averroes. Whereas Aquinas and Maimondes are towering giants in Christian thought, Averroes and his ilk were repudiated, and Islam returned to the "purity" of the Koran.

[ncountylee]

He is sincere and insane and should be put out of his misery.

[Issaquahking]

With a bullet between their eyes, no problem. It'll come to pass sometime in the future that the civilized world will have to lock horns with these idiots in WWIII. Ooh I forgot, we're pussyfootin in the Mideast, and it's already started...nobody has a clue how bad it will get before it get's better.

[Just Lori]

This does not mean in any way that there is a link between the people who left these things and the place where these things were left.

Huh?

[Just Lori]

Unfortunately, the evangelical Christians believe in the necessity of a war of civilizations. Because of this belief, President Bush, supported by these groups, is leading this war against the Muslim world.


I knew it all along. It's the Christians' fault!

[river rat]

We are all witnessing the deadly results of "political correctness"..

The political correctness that falsely states:
"all cultures are equal".
"all people deserve respect".
"diversity is our strength"..
etc, etc...

By pretending these bastards are anything other than brainwashed Islamist lunatics --- is granting them "validation" they don't deserve..

In their entire history, there are no examples of fundamental/militant Islamists living in peace with their non-Muslim neighbors, except by domination....

Why should the world expect anything different now -- when their "holy book" preaches violent DOMINATION over all others?

Islamists are the cockroaches in Civilization's kitchen..
Deal with them thusly....

Semper Fi

[Alexander Rubin]

You said it. I won't say you're wrong...

[blinachka]

Speaking about the Christians, I say that every person who believes in God must act for peace and for love among human beings and not to help in creating hate and war.

Unfortunately, the evangelical Christians believe in the necessity of a war of civilizations. Because of this belief, President Bush, supported by these groups, is leading this war against the Muslim world.

Of course Christians, and MOST people (Christian or not) are in favor of peace and love. The problem seems to be that certain factions (such as Muslims like this boob) will not peacefully coexist with people of other faiths. The simple act of denying the fact of the holiness of the Temple Mount to the Jews or allowing persons other than Muslims to pray at this holy site proves this.

It seems rather obvious that the problem here is the ignorant and intolerant Muslims.

And it's not just evangelical Christians who believe that a "war of civilizations" is needeed. The Orthodox Christians are right there with them...maily because the Muslims have been slaughtering the Orthodox whenever they could for as long as Islam has existed. The so-called "war of civilizations" this clown speaks of is something that these barbarians have brought upon themsleves...

Ugh...

[Salem]

Oh, geeeeez. You can almost hear the Looney Tunes® theme song playing in the background reading this.

Being one of those affiliated "Evangelical Christians" which has such an exaggerated and overblown sway over the White House, bottom line, hardcore reality, the only reason the U.S. is in the Middle East thumpin' heads is because on 11 September, 2001, starting at approximately 08:45, Islamist Muslims flew a handful of loaded passenger planes into the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon, with flight 93 possibly targeting the White House (before Todd Beamer and friends intervened) ditching in Pennsylvania, all this with America (Evangelical Christians or not), the premier military power in the world in the wrong mood with the wrong guy (if you are a Muslim terrorist) in the White House, in command of that military and not timid in deploying it to defend America. They started it, and Bush, whether any American here agrees with various aspects of his foreign and domestic policy (including me), still seems pretty intent on following through on finishing it come hell or high water.

That being said, if the American Evangelical Christian community, with their storied influence over the Bush White House, convinced him to completely reverse any support of the reborn nation of Israel tommorrow, and America fully evacuated the Middle East and the Jews had to turn with full heart back to the Holy One of Israel to deliver them from the storm of Islamic rage, the Muslims would indeed pray to their "allah" they had the Americans back to contend with. I kid you not.

But, not today. So we will continue to agitate, whether in behalf of a Conservative America acknowledging her foundings, or a staunch ally in Israel and her true capital in Jerusalem, as she continues to fulfill her destiny in the eyes of a sullen, hateful—and certainly reading this, goofy—world.

Thanks for posting this one, Ovrtaxt, I would not have seen it. I am going to email this URL around to a few prominent folks. Very intriguing interview.

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