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Posted on 10/21/2005 3:53:47 AM PDT by CurlyBill

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To: Paradox

"I also like it when they pull pranks on each other,"

Yeah, the tiara was priceless.

Stupid show, I love it!


81 posted on 10/21/2005 11:05:32 AM PDT by NormB (Yes, but watch your cookies!!)
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To: gopheraj

Protect AND Serve....


82 posted on 10/21/2005 11:17:12 AM PDT by Range Rover (Kerry is STILL a Fraud...Rather is the Court Jester)
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To: x1stcav

Interesting story. My sister-in-law got married at the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park. They say that place is haunted, but I thought the place was charming and alot of fun.


83 posted on 10/21/2005 11:53:08 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Pharmboy

Probably is Corzine. Old enough.


84 posted on 10/21/2005 11:59:47 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Noone spoke when the levee done broke, Blanco cried and Nagin lied.)
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To: Paradox

I can watch those Most Haunted shows until everyone starts screaming and the cameraman appears to drop the camera and then you never know what set them off. Or what ever it was that set them off is lost as far as the camera and the recording are concerned because of the screaming and and flipping around.


85 posted on 10/21/2005 12:12:27 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: R. Scott

My mother, God rest her soul, had a similar experience when she was young.
Apparently her and her sisters got a hold of a Ouija board and began asking it questions.
It was all fun and games until the board told them that there uncle had a girlfriend. (he was married at the time)
She swore to me that there was no way any of them could have known that, but sure enough he was found out to have
a little on the side, and the board even got the name right.

I forget the details, but those boards are not nice. I wonder where they come from originally?


86 posted on 10/21/2005 12:22:57 PM PDT by NormB (Yes, but watch your cookies!!)
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To: NormB
I wonder where they come from originally?

It seems to go back a long ways.
87 posted on 10/21/2005 12:27:28 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott

I love it when people search google for me! thanks!


88 posted on 10/21/2005 12:29:35 PM PDT by NormB (Yes, but watch your cookies!!)
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To: NormB

Every one needs a hobby.


89 posted on 10/21/2005 12:47:42 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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90 posted on 10/21/2005 12:51:34 PM PDT by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: CurlyBill

You mind putting me on your ping list? Love these ghost stories.


91 posted on 10/21/2005 1:27:03 PM PDT by YoungCurmudgeon (I slept and dreamed that life was beauty. I woke to find that life is duty.)
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To: CurlyBill
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1505018/posts?page=14#14
92 posted on 10/21/2005 1:53:07 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: CurlyBill
Guess it's time to repost "The Landlady's Tale".


The following story was told to me by the woman who rented my parents their first home in California when they moved to Sacramento in 1939. A devout Catholic (although she had been divorced by her husband, she did not consider the divorce valid and did not remarry until her husband died many years later), the landlady swore on her Bible, in front of my sister and me after she told us the story, that it was absolutely true. She was quite serious about it.

In the 1970s, I personally confirmed some of the more mundane parts of her story. The events she described occurring in the 1950s had been reported in the local news, and although there was now an empty lot where it and a gas station once stood, the house did exist. I will call her "Irene" because that was really her name.

Irene is dead now and I have rewritten her story as a short story, almost exactly as she told it.


The Landlady's Tale

Moving Day

It was September, 1920. The Smith family was moving from San Francisco, where their youngest daughter Irene had lived her entire 15 years, to their new home in Sacramento, where Irene's father had his new job. The job was probationary at first so Irene's parents had rented a house instead of selling the San Francisco house and buying another in Sacramento. If the job did not work out, they wanted to move back.

Irene's father had found a great bargain. The house was a three story Victorian complete with attic and basement located only seven blocks from the State Capitol Building. It was located on a corner lot in an upscale neighborhood of other stately Victorians. The rent was much lower than usual for the neighborhood.

Their new landlord explained to Irene's parents that he was merely the agent for the owner, his sister, who had "moved back east, because of her health" several years earlier. The owner's brother was apologetic that they could not have the entire basement for their use, but, he explained "The back storeroom of the basement is packed full of some of my sister's belongings that she hasn't sent for yet. You can have the other two basement rooms for your belongings."

The house had large, airy rooms with large windows. The first floor consisted of a large kitchen with walk-in pantry and breakfast nook, a formal dining room with oaken hutches and sideboards built-in, a living room, and a separate "sociable parlor" for entertaining important guests. The front entry led into the large staircase wrapping around a central core and was open from bottom to top, giving a clear view of all landings and stairs.

The second floor had the master suite for Mr. and Mrs. Smith, the bathroom, another bedroom destined to become Mr. Smith's office and which would double as a guest room, and a small storage room. The third floor had one bedroom with a closet that Irene would share with her 22 year old adopted sister, Nita, and Nita's two and a half year old daughter. The attic was actually an unfinished space on the third floor that could be made into more bedrooms.

Nita and Irene got along very well. Although Nita had been adopted (she had literally been left on the Smith's doorstep 22 years before), she and Irene could not have been closer. Irene had been a 12 year old maid of honor when Nita had married her childhood sweetheart, just before he shipped out to Europe where he died in a foxhole, just eight months before his daughter was born.

Irene had been given the option of sleeping in the guest room with her father's desk and files but she much preferred sharing the big double bed with sister (and best friend) Nita. Nita's little girl would sleep in a crib in the room with them.

The Baby's Encounter

The five members of the Smith family all had their jobs in the move... Mrs. Smith directing the workmen moving the large furniture from the horse drawn drayage cart to the house, Mr. Smith hanging family pictures, Irene and Nita unpacking the fine china and putting it into the built in hutches in the dining room and "The baby", which is how they always referred to Nita's daughter, was heavily involved in everything, getting in the way, skipping, laughing. It was a hectic but homey scene.

The trouble started that very first day. The family was absorbed in the mundane tasks of moving in. The baby was left to her own resources and was skipping around the house, watching this, watching that, asking questions and generally having loads of fun.

She skipped past her mother and aunt and went by herself into the kitchen. She had not been in there very long when she started screaming... loudly and piercingly.

Nita dropped one of her mother's heirloom plates, shattering it on the hardwood floor, and dashed into the kitchen with Irene close on her heels.

The baby was standing, petrified, screaming, and shaking her head from side to side. Nita dropped to her knees as she hugged her daughter to her, trying to comfort her. The baby was inconsolable.

For over an hour Nita carried her and rocked her in her arms before the child quieted and finally fell asleep. The baby never could tell them what caused her fear and even in later years, she would waken screaming in the night and could only vaguely describe a room in her dreams that Nita and the other could recognize as the kitchen. The child would never again walk into the kitchen alone as long as they lived there... which would not be that long.

Strangely, none of the other events that occurred in that house would ever bother her.

Nita's and Irene's First Encounter

That night an exhausted but satisfied Smith family retired for the night. They had gone out to dinner because the kitchen had not been completed enough to cook in. Nita carried the sleeping baby up to the third floor and put her in her crib. She and Irene took turns taking baths and watching the sleeping child. It was about 10:00PM when the lights were turned out after all good nights had been said.

The bedroom Irene and Nita shared with the baby was a square. The headboard of their big double bed shared the wall with the door to the landing. The baby's crib was on the inside wall next to the landing door and the wall opposite the bed had two large dormer style windows. The wall to the right of the bed had a closet that was large enough to hold a couple of dressers and some trunks. The door to the closet was right next to the head of the bed and next to it, closer to the windows was a large dresser with a basin and pitcher.

Both girls were very tired after a day of hard labor and fell quickly asleep. Several hours later, Irene awoke with a feeling that someone was watching her. She got up and went to check the baby who was fast asleep. As she turned around she was surprised to see that Nita, who was a deeper sleeper than she, was also awake.

"I'm sorry I woke you... I tried to be quiet," Irene apologized, "I know how tired you must be."

"You didn't wake me," Nita answered, "I woke just before you got up. Were you looking at me? I felt someone was was watching me."

"Nita! That was what woke me. I thought the baby was awake," said Irene, as she climbed back into bed and pulled the covers up.

The girls lay there and chatted about the events of the day and what lay ahead in Sacramento. Irene and Nita talked girl talk for about fifteen minutes, when without warning...

Knock! Knock! Knock!

The sound came from the closet door on the right. Both girls turned, startled, toward the closet.

The last knock had just knocked when the closet door swung open! The girls stared. Just as suddenly...

Knock! Knock! Knock!

... and the door swung closed!

Both girls jumped out of bed, screaming. Nita rushed over and picked up the baby and both ran out yelling for their parents.

"DADDY! There's someone in the house! Help!"

Mr. Smith came dashing out of the second floor master suite in his nightshirt with his big revolver and ran up the stairs, meeting the panicked girls on the way down. Both pointed up stairs, turned and fled to Mrs. Smith, who pulled them into her bedroom and shut the door.

Mr. and Mrs. Smith's Reaction

Mr. Smith continued up the stairs to find an empty room and closet. He searched the attic, checked the windows, turned on all the lights and searched every room, checked every window, and even took a light down and searched the basement. Nothing.

"There's nobody here except us" he called out as he approached the master bedroom.

"No, Daddy, there was someone in our room... in the closet!" Nita cried.

"Look, I've searched the entire house. Everything is normal and there is no one here. It was probably the wind." Mr. Smith stated.

Mrs. Smith offered her opinion. "Its a new house for you. You're not used to it, so it's strange. You let your imaginations run away with you. You probably had a nightmare."

"BOTH of us? The same dream?" asked Nita. "It was not a dream."

"Nita, it was a dream." When Momma made up her mind, it was made up and NOTHING could change it. "Go back to bed. We have more work in the morning. Go to sleep."

"I'm going to turn off the lights and go back to sleep. You girls do the same." When Mrs. Smith made up her mind, Mr. Smith's mind was also made up. He clomped off to shut off the lights.

Irene noticed that he took the gun with him, though.

Both girls trudged back upstairs. "It's only the wind." Nita said, trying to convince herself.

Nita put the still sleeping baby between them on the bed and both got out their Rosaries and started praying. Irene was certain she would not sleep a wink for the rest of the night. She was wrong. Both of the girls fell asleep before they could complete their prayers and slept soundly.

At breakfast, 'Topic A' would have been the events of the previous night but Mrs. Smith's mind was made up and she would brook no disagreement: "It was a dream."

"It was the wind," Mr. Smith said, under his breath.

The Second Night

The second night in the house, the girls went to sleep having talked it out between themselves and decided it HAD to have been a dream. Sleep came quickly because it had been another full day of settling in.

Both girls awakened with the same feeling... someone was watching them. Irene grabbed her Rosary and just held it. A few minutes after they awakened... Knock! Knock! Knock! ...and the closet door swung open! And then... Knock! Knock! Knock! ... the door swung closed!

Again, two screaming girls grabbed the baby and dashed out the door, awakening their parents. Mr. Smith again, searched the house, and again found nothing.

"It's the wind!" said Mr. Smith.

"It's only a dream!" said Mrs. Smith.

"Go back to bed," they both ordered.

And the Next and so on...

The next night was a repeat of the previous nights. By the fourth night, Mr. Smith refused to get up a search. Mrs. Smith had decided that maybe the girls were doing this deliberately because they didn't like Sacramento and wanted to return to San Francisco. On the fifth night she had had enough.

"If you girls disturb my sleep one more time, you will NOT like the consequences. We are staying."

"Momma," cried Irene, frustrated, "we aren't making this up. It really happens."

"Mother..." Nita tried to enter the discussion.

"NO MORE! We're staying... get used to it. I don't want to hear anything more about it."

Get used to it they did. In fact, it became a normal thing for them.

Nita bought a clock and they found they always awoke within a few minutes of 1:35AM and the door would knock three times, open, knock three times and close at 1:43AM. It was like clockwork. It got to be routine.

They discussed it with everyone except Mrs. Smith. She would not allow the subject to be brought up at all. Mr. Smith was certain it was a phenomenon of weather... the wind. Others were sure the girls were making it up or joking. Dreaming was another popular theory.

The Skeptical Visitor's Encounter

In late February of 1921, a friend of their father's from Stockton came to visit one weekend and was to be "put up" in the guest room/office. In after dinner conversation, while Mrs. Smith was finishing in the kitchen, the subject of the closet door was brought up. The visitor did not believe them.

"I don't believe in stuff like that. It ain't possible."

The girls assured him it happened every night.

"Tell you what. You gals take the guest room. I'll sleep in your room tonight... and I'll prove you wrong."

The girls agreed, even though Mrs. Smith would object to changes in sleeping arrangements (if she knew about it), especially for this purpose, and the guest room only had a single bed. The two sneaked downstairs with the baby after Mr. and Mrs. Smith had gone to bed and the guest went up to their room.

The girls, crowded together on the single narrow guest bed, slept through the night for the first time since moving into the house. The next morning, they sneaked back up stairs to awaken their guest so they could exchange rooms again and, more importantly, learn what he experienced.

On the floor of the landing, they found his hat but he was gone!

The door to their room was wide open. The bedspread was strewn across the floor toward the landing door and the bed was pushed at an angle away from the landing door. His overnight bag, and all, gone. His truck was gone from the street in front of the house.

Irene's father was perplexed. His friend never answered their father's letters and he never came back to the house.

Years later, Irene met him again and asked him what happened. Obviously distressed, he refused to tell her and told her never to ask him again. He then got up and walked out.

Several months passed. Irene and Nita were completely used to the phenomena. It was even a bit boring. Knock, knock, knock, door open; knock, knock, knock, door closed. Ho Hum. However, they NEVER slept through it and the baby always did.

Mrs. Smith would not hear anything about it and Mr. Smith ignored it.

Mr. Smith's Encounter

Everything changed on the night of June 7, 1921.

That night, about 1:45AM, Mr. Smith had a call of nature and got up to go to the bathroom.

As he left the master bedroom, he glanced up the stairs and caught a glimpse of a man standing on the landing. He darted back into his room and grabbed his revolver and charged out, yelling at the top of his lungs. The girls, still awake from the closet door event of the evening came out to see their father dashing around the house opening doors and turning on lights looking for a burglar.

He found nothing.

Mrs. Smith decided that Mr. Smith had been sleep walking and dreamed the whole thing.

"I did not dream it... I saw a man." Mr. Smith insisted.

"You dreamed it." Mrs. Smith insisted... and a glorious argument developed.

The girls went back to bed.

Events Change

The night of June 8, 1921. Mr. Smith cleaned and oiled his revolver before going to bed... and he loaded his shotgun for the first time. Mrs. Smith was not speaking with him.

His theory was that someone, perhaps a previous tenant, had free entry to the house and he was going to catch him.

Over Mrs. Smith's objections, Mr. Smith left the door to their bedroom open and he propped his shotgun next to it. The revolver was on the nightstand.

The girls went to bed.

At 1:33AM both of them awoke, feeling they were being watched again.

Ten minutes later the closet door SLAMMED open without knocking! A bloodcurdling scream, the most terrifying sound Irene had ever heard, echoed out of the closet! SOMETHING DARK ran out of the closet, around the bed, opened the door to the landing and slammed it behind it!

Both girls were so frozen in fright they could not move to go check on the baby!

Mr. and Mrs. Smith, awakened with a start, hearing a horrible scream coming from upstairs. Mr. Smith jumped out of bed and grabbed the revolver. As he dashed out the bedroom door he hit the light switch for the landing. To his shock, he saw a man, covered in blood, carrying a knife, running down the stairs from the third floor landing!

With visions of his daughters lying dead in their bed, he raised his revolver and took aim.

The man disappeared! He vanished in plain site with nowhere to go. Gone as if he had never been there!

Mrs. Smith was climbing out of bed to find out what the commotion was all about.

Mr. Smith dashed up the stairs and slammed open the girls bedroom to find two very frightened girls frantically saying their Rosaries and clutching the beads. The baby was still sound asleep in her crib.

Nobody went back to bed that night.

Mr. Smith woke a neighbor who owned a phone and the police were called. They found nothing and chalked it up to a prowler that Mr. Smith had scared off.

Mrs. Smith latched onto that explanation and adopted it as her own. She spent the night demanding that Mr. Smith call a locksmith to replace all the locks on the house as soon as possible in the morning. Mrs. Smith was adamant... a prowler was NO reason to move out. The police would catch him and everything would go back to normal. The girls' story was dismissed as just another nightmare.

Mr. Smith moved the desk out of his office and moved the girls' furniture and clothing in. They would never sleep or even go into the room on the third floor again.

Mrs. Smith's Encounter

Mrs. Smith refused to even consider moving. She thought moving the girls into the office was a bunch of nonsense, but if Mr. Smith didn't mind having his office on the third floor, alright.

Two days later, Mrs. Smith came in from a day of shopping with some friends and lay down on the sofa in the living room. As she lay there, she looked over toward the kitchen.

Remember the kitchen?

"Who is that man in the kitchen," Mrs. Smith asked Irene.

"Momma, there is no one there," Irene replied, looking toward the kitchen.

"Why there certainly IS... I can see him plain as day..." Suddenly, Mrs. Smith screamed! "Oh, MY GOD! I can see right through him!"

The Smith family left the house within an hour, never to return. They stayed in a downtown hotel for three weeks while Mr. Smith found and bought a house. Movers packed and removed their belongings from the house Mrs. Smith refused to ever return to.

Years Later

Many years passed. Irene grew up, married a fairly wealthy man with interests in Real Estate and she, herself, became a Real Estate agent and later a property developer. Her husband, became enamored of his secretary, and divorced Irene (but did not get a Catholic annulment). Over the years, Irene kept an eye on the house the Smith family had occupied for only nine months and noted a strange pattern.

No one ever lived in the house for more than about 10 months.

Almost everyone who lived there moved out within a week of June 8th. All were gone by the end of June. Often it went unrented for long periods of time.

In the late-1930s, the brother of the house's owner cleaned out his bank accounts and moved out of town, abandoning the properties in his charge. No one knew where he went and he was never heard from again.

The neighborhood fell into disrepair as the city grew eastward and it soon became an area of broken down houses. Many of the once stately Victorian homes were converted to low-income apartments and the neighborhood drifted into a slum. The house stood empty for years.

Property taxes went unpaid.

The House is Sold

One day in the early fifties, Irene, now a very wealthy woman who owned several hundred homes in Sacramento, noticed that a tax lien auction for the property was listed in the paper. Out of curiosity, with no interest at all in buying the property, she attended the sale.

The eventual winning bidder was a property developer friend who was also a competitor of Irene's. She approached him.

"What are you planning to do with this house?" Irene asked.

"The location is ideal," he said, "for a motel I am planning to build. There is a lot of traffic on this corner."

"I don't think I would build a hotel on this site," said Irene. "I don't think it would work. it's not a good idea. Not on that site."

"Why not?" asked her friend.

"Let me buy you a cup of coffee and I will tell you a story about that house. I know a lot about its history."

They went to a cafe down the block and she related her tale. He was not impressed... except with her chutzpah.

"What are you trying to pull... if you wanted this property why didn't you bid on it?"

Irene insisted she had no interest in the property but felt that he should know about its history. HE, on the other hand, was convinced she had some business plot going.

"I don't believe in that junk... and I'm surprised a hardheaded business woman like yourself would even spout such malarkey. I am going to build my motel." He left in a huff.

Old Crimes Uncovered

Several months later he called Irene at her office. "Can you meet me?" her friend said, "Something has come up. Oh, my god, has it come up!"

Irene agreed to meet him for lunch.

They met at the Senator Hotel dining room and Irene's friend was obviously agitated.

"My men started demolition of that house you were wanting," he said.

"I DIDN'T want it..." Irene interrupted.

But he just continued. "Irene, there were TWO BODIES in the basement wall!!!"

"WHAT?!"

"Two skeletons actually. It'll be in the papers tomorrow. I told the police about your interest in the house. I think they want to talk to you."

A Confession

The police never did talk to Irene as they had a confession in hand.

Along with the bodies, the police found a box containing a .45 Colt Single Action revolver and a worm-eaten, handwritten confession from the killer. As the story was finally related, the owner of the house had lived in the house with her younger brother in the early part of the 20th century.

The writer of the confession wrote how, on the night of June 8, 1902, a little after 1:30AM, he was awakened by a terrible scream from his sister's upstairs bedroom. He had gotten out of bed, taken his old army revolver out of the nightstand and ran out onto the landing where he saw a man with a knife, covered in blood, running down the stairs from the third floor. He shot and killed the man on the stairs.

Running up the stairs to his sister's bedroom, he found her naked, brutally stabbed body in the closet next to her bed. Covering her body with the bedspread, he went down to put on some pants to go get help.

As he dressed, he wrote, he thought about his future. His sister owned everything and HE was not included in her will. She was leaving everything to charity.

Instead of getting help, he carried both bodies to the basement and buried them in the wall. He moved a lot of furniture in front of the wall.

He announced to the neighbors and friends that his sister was not well and had gone back east to live with a nonexistent sister. He then took over managing her properties for his own benefit.

When he decided he couldn't keep it up anymore, he decided to leave... but his conscience made him leave the confession which, along with the gun, was placed behind the same wall where the bodies were buried. He wanted people to know what happened, and that he really didn't do anything wrong.

Thus ends The Landlady's Tale.


Except for the ghostly story Irene related, this was all duly reported in the early fifties in the local newspapers as an old crime that solved itself.

The medical examiners office determined the skeletons were those of a young man and a middle aged woman.

The brother, if he was still alive, was never found.

The motel was never built... instead a gas station was erected on the site. It was never successful for very long.

When I researched this story in the mid to late 1970s, after Irene's death, the lot was empty, a home for derelicts sleeping in bushes.

I again repeat that Irene swore this all happened as she told me it did. I recall seeing the goosebumps that rose on her arms as she told the story. I get goosebumps when I retell it even today.

Mr. Smith died in the 1930s but Mrs. Smith was still alive in the late fifties and I knew her. She was still a no-nonsense type. After Mr. Smith's death, she had gone back to work... as a store detective for a large department store chain.

My mother once asked Mrs. Smith about the events related here and she confirmed that it happened as Irene told it. She then said she didn't want to talk about it ever again... and excused herself to go to evening mass.

What do you all think?

93 posted on 10/21/2005 2:43:18 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: CurlyBill

My niece, the same age as myself, my best friend and like a sister to me, died of a brain tumor in August of 1999. It has been a loss I will never recover from. She was a devoted educator, terrific mother, great friend and a true Christian in every sense of the word. When we knew she would die, we were all devastated beyond words but she said with true joy, "If the Lord needs me in another time and place, who am I to question that, plus I am so excited to see my Lord!" She meant it too! The first Christmas without her was very interesting.....and I believe she was with us every minute of the holidays. I always put a wreath on my mantel and also wreaths on french doors in the family room. I woke up one morning and each of them had fallen and were on the floor. I thought it odd but not being a believer in spirits, it never crossed my mind, I picked them up and put them back. That same morning I spoke to my sister (her mother) and she was busy putting about 15 ornaments back on her tree that had fallen during the night. Then a little later I spoke to my other niece (her sister) and she was furious because her Christmas tree had also fallen over during the night. We all laughed and went about our day. I went shopping that afternoon to a quaint little town and shop where my niece and I loved to go, it was special to both of us. The Christmas before she had bought me a wonderful CD with various Pachlabel renditions at that shop. I was busy looking for gifts and not thinking about it being our special place, but when I walked in and started up the stairs, Pachlabel immediately started playing. I was overcome with grief and almost had to leave the store but then I felt the need to go up the stairs and when I got there a palpable and tremendous peace came over me and I had to smile. Sad but still not putting anything together, I went back to work. I was in my private office. On the wall above my desk is a framed verse that she gave to me and it has been a guide for me for many years. Suddenly, this piece FLEW off the wall, skimmed over my desk and landed out in the hallway about 10 feet away. It made a huge sound during this process and several people came in to see if everything was okay. My boss picked the piece up in the hallway and handed it to me, it was not broken, the glass was intact and the nail was still in the wall. When I told him what had happened, he laughed and said, "Do you have ghosts in here?" I then put the whole day together, she was letting us know she was with us for Christmas. I believe this but she would have said, "God's hands are not always at work with us, we must be careful because sometimes things are not always what they seem to be." I prefer to think that it was by her hands and the Grace of God that gave me the comfort needed to endure our first Christmas apart.


94 posted on 10/21/2005 3:10:58 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Thermalseeker

Eeek! I probably would have crashed because of the fright!


95 posted on 10/21/2005 3:23:45 PM PDT by arizonarachel (finally married...to F7OShawn...)
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To: KateatRFM
in New York you can void a property sale if it turns out to have an undisclosed ghost.

That was the result of a New York Court of Appeals decision which involved the sale of a house in my home town. I went to school with a girl who lived there. Interestingly, the ghost was no secret. The owner talked a lot about it There had even been a story in Readers Digest about it.

96 posted on 10/21/2005 3:31:30 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: NormB
My mom still teases me about this..

When I was like 12 or so, I wanted a Ouija board for Christmas. Literally, I begged for it. Then, a cousin told me how she and her friends had been playing with one and the marker started making figure 8's on the board by itself. That freaked me out, so when I got the Ouija board for Christmas, I didn't open it, and demanded we take it back, because I was terrified of it.

Like I said, she still makes fun of me for it, and I'm 24 now.

97 posted on 10/21/2005 3:58:40 PM PDT by arizonarachel (finally married...to F7OShawn...)
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To: CurlyBill
This took place in the area around Wayne, Westland and Inkster. It's near Detroit.

When I was 15 years old my friend Jim and I had been hanging out in his basement playing some rock LPs backwards. This was the early eighties when the "Back Masking" scare was in full swing. We had already figured out you could hear whatever you want in the noise. Still, some of the sounds freaked us out. This set the mood for what would happen later. We left to meet up with some other friends and played games in a video arcade. After that we all pretty much wandered around town.

We ended up out past curfew. Jim and I left the crowd, and headed back to our part of town. We went through one of the areas of town the cops usually didn't patrol to avoid trouble. It didn't work. A cop stopped us and we told him we were on our way home. To our surprise he let us go so we turned towards a more direct route. It was about 2:00 AM.

We were walking south on Meriman Road towards Michigan Avenue. On our left side was a fenced compound called Eloise. A cemetery was on the right. Eloise hosted the Wayne County Sheriff's office, a place that served Military Veterans (I believe a clinic with hospital beds) and an insane asylum. We walked on the right by the cemetery.

As we approached the start of the cemetery fence an old man approached. He was short and had an average build. He wore a black wool jacket and plain dark trousers. He had gray thinning hair. Before reaching us he turned and entered the open cemetery gate. I wondered why it was open and why this old guy went inside. I figured he worked there as a caretaker.

We walked on, making the usual cemetery jokes about people dieing to get in. Hey, we were kids so deal with it! Up ahead from around the corner came the old man. We slowed, nearly to a stop. The old man approached us looking towards us as if not seeing us. Before reaching us he turned to his left and walked through the gate. I stopped to light a cigarette and we continued forward slowly. Sure enough, he came around the corner again. I felt annoyed and figured he was coming out another gate around the corner and was messing with us. We passed the gate and we were approaching the corner. You guessed it, again. This time he looked at us intently as he approached. He walked past us and I noticed he was moving stiffly. Again he entered the gate. Jim and I picked up our pace, big time!
We rounded the corner and saw he was not there. Relieved I looked along the fence and noted there was no gate visible.

Turning west on Michigan Avenue, we continued on. In that area, Michigan Avenue is a divided highway thick with bars and motels. It was around the time the bar crowds were going to the 24 hour restaurants.

The sidewalk was clear ahead and we relaxed and laughed about what happened. We turned to walk forward and up ahead, sure enough, was the old man. After he passed us and turned the corner I said, "If I see him one more time I am running across the street. I don't care whether there's traffic or not."

"Yeah, you'll be behind me," Jim replied.

You can guess what happened next. We were running neck and neck. Although there wasn't too much traffic I think we scared the hell out a few drunks.

We never found out who the old guy was. Jim was sure it had something to do with playing the records backwards. He was never able to explain how it could but he was convinced. I still believe he was just some caretaker who wanted to scare a couple of kids. I have no wish to find out...
98 posted on 10/21/2005 7:34:07 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear
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To: CurlyBill

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99 posted on 10/21/2005 7:36:04 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear
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100 posted on 10/21/2005 7:42:26 PM PDT by CurlyBill (Liberals --- Aggressively spreading the "Culture of Weakness")
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