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New Zealand Experiments Use Fetal Eyes from US Abortion Carnage
LifeSite ^ | October 18, 2005

Posted on 10/18/2005 11:41:01 AM PDT by NYer

AUCKLAND, October 18, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Pro-life groups are roundly criticizing Auckland University scientists who are conducting research on eyes obtained from babies aborted in the US.

New Zealand’s Investigate magazine uncovered what it describes as “Auschwitz-style” experiments on aborted children at the university. Investigate reveals the university has been importing slices of aborted fetuses into New Zealand from America for the past 18 months, in what’s believed to be the first research of its kind in New Zealand.

The University said it approved the research led by Dr Keely Bumsted O'Brien, from the Optometry Department, on the basis of ethical approvals allegedly obtained in the United States, where the fetal body parts are being harvested at abortion clinics. Inquiries by Investigate suggest, however, that there are serious questions about the quality of the ethical approval process in the US. Bumsted O'Brien won a three-year grant worth $827,930 from the taxpayer-funded Health Research Council in May.

A Family Life International statement released Tuesday stated, “The research being conducted at the Auckland University on the remains of aborted foetuses is gravely immoral and it should be stopped immediately. The research that is being carried out on the remains of aborted children at Auckland University is gravely immoral and it can only lead to an even worse devaluing of human life.”

“The mentality that drives such experiments, that the ends justifies the means, is the exact same mentality that fuelled the horrific experiments carried out by Nazi doctors during the Second World War,” the FLI emphasized. “The purchasing of foetal remains, for any reason, turns abortion into a heinous money making exercise, and it further degrades the life of the baby that is lost to abortion and the mother involved.”

The university’s dead baby experiments are currently legal because fetal tissues are excluded from the Human Tissue Act, however new legislation expected in 2006 is expected to make it clear that consent of the mother is necessary before her baby’s remains be used in experiments. The new guidelines are being written by the National Ethics Advisory Committee.

Listen to an Investigate interview with Linda Tracy, the President of Advanced Bioscience Resources Inc, the organisation carrying out fetal body part harvesting in the US: http://www.investigatemagazine.com/ABRinterview.mp...


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To: NYer
Ethics of using medical data from Nazi experiments

On another topic, there was a recent firestorm in LA over the fact that human remains from bodies donated expressly for medical research were disposed of in an inappropriate manner. If adult human bodies are accorded respect (deservingly I might add) as protected by "desecration of a corpse" laws, why not human pre-born infants? Or, do some on this board just figure that, for kiddies at least, "parts is parts?"

Francis

61 posted on 10/18/2005 6:55:50 PM PDT by Frank Sheed ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." ~GK Chesterton.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

... fetal tissue supplier ...

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Cold! The objection to this practice is in turning human remains into a commodity.


62 posted on 10/18/2005 7:04:48 PM PDT by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World --Frank Gaffney)
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To: infidel dog
LOL! I wasn't talking about Franco!

There was a thread about a Nazi doctor that they had just located in Northern Spain! That is who I was talking about!

I always like Franco. He had the brains to stay out of the nuttiness of the mid to late 20th century.
63 posted on 10/18/2005 7:05:29 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
He makes a mockery of the term bioethics.

I actually have read a few chapters from "Animal Rights," in addition to several of his articles and essays.

The guy certainly has a warped perception of life.

Why anyone would fete a man who's in favor of eugenics-especially when he had family who perished in the Holocaust-is beyond me.

64 posted on 10/18/2005 7:19:36 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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To: Graymatter
IMO how you handle a corpse says a lot about how you regard a living being. And those who lack respect for the vessel, usually lack respect for the life it once contained.

How you handle a corpse doesn't say nearly as much about how you regard a living being as the killing of that being does. The ultimate disrespect for life is evidenced by taking it unjustly. What you do with the remains is pretty much a side issue, IMHO.

I think most of those who get really upset by this are doing so because they've already lost the fight to keep the babies from being killed in the first place. A perfectly human reaction, but not very logical.

65 posted on 10/18/2005 7:22:24 PM PDT by Restorer (Illegitimati non carborundum)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Thanks for the ping!


66 posted on 10/18/2005 8:12:25 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Restorer

Somebody's making money from the abortions. Blood money.


67 posted on 10/18/2005 10:02:50 PM PDT by skr (Shopping for a tagline that fits or a fitting tagline...whichever I find first.)
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To: maica

Get over it. There have long been suppliers of all kinds of human remains. Handling them as a commodity ensures that they are put to the best possible use. Unless, of course, you're a socialist, and think the free market is evil and everything would work better if directed by a big centralized government.


68 posted on 10/19/2005 9:29:20 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

WWPS

What Would PETA Say


69 posted on 10/19/2005 9:54:12 AM PDT by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World --Frank Gaffney)
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To: NYer; Pyro7480; Coleus; cpforlife.org; seamole
Contrary to my nature which is to place an everlasting curse on them all, I am deeply impressed at this moment by an urgent prompting to pray for the speedy conversion of all of the scientists, merchants, health care providers, lawmakers, attorneys, policy makers, judges, and others involved in this -- all of whom have been utterly perverted by their participation in the product of inhumane acts, crimes against humanity, desecration of the dead all stemming from abortion on demand.

Though I be angry, may God hear this prayer for their conversion.

70 posted on 10/19/2005 11:38:27 AM PDT by Maeve ("Abortion is so wrong we wouldn't even do it to our pets!" --Catherine Hicks, actress)
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To: NYer; shaggy eel; Calvert Cliffs Cafe

yikes.


71 posted on 10/19/2005 12:45:28 PM PDT by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: Terriergal; Willie Green

,,, there's got to be something wrong with a country that bans US warships but lines up for spare parts from US abortion clinics. Yep, something's pretty wrong with that picture. I'd be curious to know how the import documents describe such a shipment.


72 posted on 10/20/2005 2:27:27 AM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel

ergh.

but NO handguns!


73 posted on 10/20/2005 10:02:56 AM PDT by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Yes. Brian Crozier's biography is outstanding. Also out of print, sad to say.


74 posted on 10/20/2005 2:56:49 PM PDT by infidel dog (nearer my God to thee....)
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To: redgolum

Whew! I'm happy to hear I misunderstood you on the Caudillo. I was just about to send a squad of Carlists over to your casa to straighten you out! Nyuk nyuk nyuk...


75 posted on 10/20/2005 3:06:59 PM PDT by infidel dog (nearer my God to thee....)
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To: infidel dog
I was just about to send a squad of Carlists over to your casa to straighten you out

As long as they don't drink my beer like all the dang Opus Dei guys.

You just shouldn't drink a M. Lutheran's beer. It makes us very upset!

76 posted on 10/20/2005 3:18:05 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

LOL! I'll tell you, red, it gets the Orthodox pretty upset too! Ya know, I've always felt Martin Luther would have been a pretty cool guy to knock a few Doppelbocks back with-as long as we didn't have to duke it out over the last bottle!!


77 posted on 10/20/2005 3:44:00 PM PDT by infidel dog (nearer my God to thee....)
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To: Terriergal
but NO handguns!

,,, that's right. We'll have to change the law on that - we'll need them if we ever get hit by a hurricane. Gotta keep those rescuers away.

78 posted on 10/21/2005 12:16:10 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel

ha!


79 posted on 10/29/2005 2:07:42 PM PDT by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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