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The Gun Industry Rolls Congress
NY Times ^ | October 18, 2005 | Classic Meathed Editorial

Posted on 10/18/2005 3:38:01 AM PDT by neverdem

Three years ago, the nation's capital region lived in fear of a pair of snipers who killed 10 people and wounded three in random attacks with a Bushmaster XM-15 .223-caliber telescopic rifle - a gleaming civilian version of the Army's basic M-16 assault rifle popular with recreational shooters. In the aftermath, the rifle was traced to a shoddy gun dealer who claimed he somehow "lost" that war weapon and some 200 other guns to the underground market. Victimized families sued in grief and outrage and won $2.5 million in a settlement that most Americans - except Congress - would pronounce proper.

The House of Representatives, in callow disregard of cause and effect in the nation's harrowing gun carnage, is about to take aim at the Bushmaster settlement by voting what is expected to be final approval of a bill to grant assault-proof protection from damage suits to the gun industry, from manufacturers to dealers. This extraordinary shield, written to the diktat of the National Rifle Association, is so sweeping that it would have barred the D.C. sniper settlement and other valid negligence claims, according to legal experts stunned that any industry could ever win such blanket immunity.

With all the critical issues on the national agenda, from the Iraq war to hurricane recovery, the House's eagerness is obscene as the gun lobby herds lawmakers from both parties behind a bill to deny victimized families their fair day in court. The bill goes beyond barring lawsuits to shielding black-market dealers from administrative loss of their licenses without near impossible burdens of proof.

President Bush talked favorably about the assault weapons ban as a candidate but was notoriously mute when the Republican Congress let the ban expire last year. Surely he would not compound the nation's gun scourge by signing the immunity...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
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This meathead editorial lacks any common sense.
1 posted on 10/18/2005 3:38:02 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Can't make hide nor hair of it.


2 posted on 10/18/2005 3:49:35 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: neverdem

Gun Carnage?

6-10 people a week die on the Washington/Baltimore beltway.

now that's carnage...

3 posted on 10/18/2005 3:53:50 AM PDT by xcamel (No more RINOS - Not Now, Not Ever Again.)
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To: neverdem

If the anti-gunners had not announced publically that their intention is to sue the gun manufacturers out of business, there would not be any need for this legislation. But the anti-gunners have launched a concerted strategy to abuse the courts to achieve the goals they have not been able to reach through legislation and the political process.


4 posted on 10/18/2005 4:12:54 AM PDT by gridlock (Mother Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's losing.)
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To: neverdem

The only reason this story hangs on was the rifle of choice. If it had been a single shot .223, with scope, probable more accurate by the way, we would not be reading this garbage.


5 posted on 10/18/2005 4:14:35 AM PDT by MrPiper
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To: neverdem
Personally I find it very interesting that conservatives understand so much about the motivations of liberals. We think about them,... try to reason them out. We try to expose the kinds of thinking that will motivate them to advocate for the punishment of the successful while rewarding the unsuccessful. We consider the cause of their rush to surrender the rights of the law abiding in an attempt to control the lawless.

And in the end we have mostly come up with the idea of self congratulation... they do, and say, and apply political pressure for all these things because it makes them feel better about themselves. Since the ego is the center of their universe, they are drawn to ideas that let them say to others "See?! ... I'm a good person because I feel strongly about _________!"

They on the other hand put no genuine thought into the motivations of conservatives. After all, how could they... what could pass for logic and reason when your world view is built around the idea of having lots of emotional lollipops and fuzzy toys of the soul. If a fact were to intrude into the worldview of a real liberal it must either be purged immediately, or sealed into bubble isolated from other issues where it can be the cause of yet another attempt at appeasement of insecurity.

So conservatives genuinely try to understand liberals while liberals accuse conservatives of being meanies, and of eating disabled kittens of color. This is what passes for reasoned debate when you're dealing with people so childish.

So hear again the NYTimes has decided that we're all too stupid to protect ourselves and we need another excuse to give the government more control over our lives.

Imagine my shock and confusion at this strange turn of events.

6 posted on 10/18/2005 4:15:45 AM PDT by tcostell
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To: neverdem
The New York Times is having a conniption fit over the failure of its efforts to take our guns?

It reminds that I need to boost my NRA membership drive efforts. We are winning this fight, and that means it is time to push all the harder.

7 posted on 10/18/2005 4:16:32 AM PDT by snowsislander (NRA)
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To: neverdem
---experts stunned that any industry could ever win such blanket immunity.--

--and what other industry was ever attacked in this manner, "experts"?---

8 posted on 10/18/2005 4:16:46 AM PDT by rellimpank (urbanites don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm:NRABenefactor)
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To: neverdem
Most NY Times editors are gay.

Guns are phallic.

NY Times editors should be all in when it comes to guns.

9 posted on 10/18/2005 4:17:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: neverdem

Ahhh, the smell of red herring in the morning!. Nothing in this bill prevents anyone from suing a manufacturer for a truly defective product. The sad thing is that we have to consider such laws as this.


10 posted on 10/18/2005 4:24:17 AM PDT by n230099
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To: neverdem
"Bushmaster XM-15 .223-caliber telescopic rifle"

As if "telescopic" was some sort of diabolical addition to a rifle.
11 posted on 10/18/2005 4:26:02 AM PDT by opticks
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To: neverdem
…Bushmaster XM-15 .223-caliber telescopic rifle - a gleaming civilian version of the Army's basic M-16 assault rifle popular with recreational shooters.

…who claimed he somehow "lost" that war weapon…

Gleaming? A civilian “war weapon”?
It seems the writer is a bit confused – or very ignorant.
12 posted on 10/18/2005 4:26:56 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: opticks

The barrel extends from a carbine to a target rifle?


13 posted on 10/18/2005 4:28:49 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: neverdem
More nonsense from the sniper days. They talk like it's some kind of death ray.
14 posted on 10/18/2005 4:30:57 AM PDT by opticks
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To: R. Scott

I'm no Bushmaster expert, by my interpretation is the writer was either talking about the scope or the stock. He's so ignorant he doesn't know the difference. Oh no! Two diabolical accessories that every deer rifle has. /sarcasm


15 posted on 10/18/2005 4:34:13 AM PDT by opticks
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To: MrPiper
The only reason this story hangs on was the rifle of choice. If it had been a single shot .223, with scope, probable more accurate by the way, we would not be reading this garbage.

During the series of shootings, I was wondering if it was a single-shot .223 pistol, like below

That way he could have taken his shot from concealment, stuck it under his jacket, and walked away while everybody was looking for a guy with a big rifle

16 posted on 10/18/2005 4:41:36 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: gridlock

NYT= lauds "civil rights" while opposing the actual practice thereof, as defined by the Bill of Rights.


17 posted on 10/18/2005 4:52:53 AM PDT by saveliberty (lgf banner says - "There is no hell. There is only France")
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To: neverdem; All
Reference:

The Sniper Archive-- Open this result in new window

... Posted on 10/15/2002 9:53:59 AM PDT by backhoe ... Beltway Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary-Tuesday, Oct ...
www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/769545/posts?page=9 - 91k - Cached - More from this site
18 posted on 10/18/2005 4:57:58 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: neverdem
The New York Times leftist statists had to recycle the 2002 sniper story in response to THIS story of yesterday:

"WASHINGTON -- For the first time in four years, the nation's murder rate dropped in 2004, taking it to the lowest level in 40 years, the FBI reported Monday."

19 posted on 10/18/2005 5:11:31 AM PDT by Ides of March (Beware.)
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To: opticks
It was the mark 3, type m with a barrel that could be extended nearly 400 miles!!!! Oh, and it was EQUIPTED with a scope.
LOL. The nyt. Gotta' love 'em.
20 posted on 10/18/2005 5:17:14 AM PDT by Texas WOP
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