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Embarrassing Blowout for NASCAR
Washington Post ^ | October 17, 2005 | By Liz Clarke

Posted on 10/17/2005 5:40:57 AM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy

NASCAR had the opportunity to build on its fan base Saturday night when the UAW-GM 500 roared to life seconds after Southern California's 34-31, come-from-behind victory over Notre Dame.

NBC viewers who were curious about stock-car racing simply needed to stay put following college football's thriller in South Bend, Ind., where the Trojans charged past the Fighting Irish with three seconds remaining. But as the prime-time TV cameras cut to Lowe's Motor Speedway in Concord, N.C., NASCAR failed to seize the moment.

A rash of tire failures sent a succession of cars slamming into the track's concrete retaining wall and scared drivers so witless they barely raced at all. Instead of dicing for position as NASCAR's best do so expertly, racers kept safe distances between one another and didn't push their cars to their limit, many said afterward, for fear of blowing a tire. Despite the precautions, the 500-mile race was halted for a crash roughly every 20 laps. Nearly all of the crashes were caused by blown tires; not necessarily the fault of the tire supplier, Goodyear, most drivers argued, but the result of speeds generating more heat and abuse than the tires could withstand.

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To: KC_Conspirator
I think you are wrong on that. The reason NASCAR is so big IS because of TV

I don't think so. Many of these tracks were around before TV. Also, how would this explain the popularity of local short tracks, and auto racing being the NUMBER ONE spectator sport in the world? Fan interest in auto racing happened long before NBC missed almost every restart for commercial purposes.

61 posted on 10/17/2005 7:18:51 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (Want to be on my Civil Engineers ping list? Say the word!)
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To: newgeezer
NASCAR hasn't been NASCAR since they went to driving caricatures instead of "stock" cars.

I think you need to change your name to oldgeezer..

:-)

62 posted on 10/17/2005 7:23:38 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty hereā€¦ move on.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Sure, NASCAR was popular in the south, but TV was the biggest reason it increased its audience to what it is today. Aggressive marketing was also another. That is why there are tracks all around the country now.


63 posted on 10/17/2005 7:31:08 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

"Embarrassing Blowout for NASCAR"

IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!! :)


64 posted on 10/17/2005 7:32:01 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: ex-snook
Incompetent half-a$$ed engineering. Cars should not fall apart for any reason except accidents.

A good race car designer will get the absolute most possible from a car, not build a brick. If the engine expires just after the car crosses the finish line, that's perfect engineering.

It does no good to put a truck engine in a race car.

65 posted on 10/17/2005 7:47:16 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (Want to be on my Civil Engineers ping list? Say the word!)
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To: HamiltonJay

Old style NASCAR (read that as pre Politically Correct, pre even playing field rules, pre cookie cutter cars, pre Goodyear only and no restictor plate racing) would not be boring. Old NASCAR with today's TV coverage could be HUGE.


66 posted on 10/17/2005 7:48:01 AM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (Peace comes from having superior firepower, the will to use it, and a very short fuse.)
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To: HamiltonJay
Now NASCAR has preplanned scheduled yellow flags.

WTF??? The DH comes to Auto Racing.

Yep, NASCAR has "competition yellows" so that teams can change tires, check for wear, etc. UN-believable!

67 posted on 10/17/2005 7:49:51 AM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (Peace comes from having superior firepower, the will to use it, and a very short fuse.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
"If the engine expires just after the car crosses the finish line, that's perfect engineering."

OK I would agree with that. My comments were directed to those that fall apart before the finish line, tires included, as a lot less than perfect.

68 posted on 10/17/2005 7:55:20 AM PDT by ex-snook (Vote gridlock for the most conservative government)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
The result of that race is that the "rule book" will call for an engine with reduced horsepower or a smaller restrictor plate so that after 20 years of racing the speeds at that track will be reduced by more than 30 mph on average.

Why was it that 20 years ago tires held up on cars with poorer aerodynamics, suspension, after all, they were more "stock" than race cars then and a Chevy was a Chevy, now a "Dodge" uses a Chevy small block derivative engine as all cars do, and tires were "cut down" but they didn't disintegrate?

I also see a problem with the quality of racing when the drivers are so protected in the cockpit that they can't turn their head but only gaze straight ahead now with the head restraints and the seat/capsule protection, that they need spotters to tell them who is around them.

They (NASCAR) will just keep slowing the cars down, making all of the engines available on a lottery basis so no team has an advantage, keep the "rule book" out of the hands of the fans (can anyone imagine watching an NFL game without knowing the rules or knowing what rules went into effect since the last game?) so the fans are in the dark so they won't realize that a Dodge" is no different than a "Chevy" except for the decal graphics on the plastic front end but has to test mechanically for shape and aerodynamics the same as everyone else, within the "rules".
69 posted on 10/17/2005 8:07:41 AM PDT by Final Authority
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

It was the best race all year! What are people kavetching about? Instead of it being the boring race that is usually good at the last 50 laps the whole doggone thing was great to watch. The Busch race on friday was interesting because of the same problem. First time in years we watched an entire Busch race.


70 posted on 10/17/2005 8:23:36 AM PDT by American Vet Repairman (Gun control is a double tap and a head shot.)
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To: leadpenny
I heard it was because the track had been ground down in the turns and that made it erase the rubber?
They even brought in the Texas Tire Monster to try and lay some rubber down on the track during the week....... This thing has 12 tires on it and is pulled behind a truck at some 60-70 mph for many laps. The tires at set at a slight angle to induce tire wear or rubbing thus adding rubber to the track surface.


71 posted on 10/17/2005 8:25:47 AM PDT by deport (Alberto Gonzales... Next up. LOL)
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To: Red Badger

"What condition was the road surface?"

The road was ground smooth and was actually too good for tire speed. The underinflated tires at the begining did not help much either. There were a few blow outs due to debris. Overall the track was the way Clinton liked his women -hot, loose and fast.


72 posted on 10/17/2005 8:27:42 AM PDT by American Vet Repairman (Gun control is a double tap and a head shot.)
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To: MarkL
Don't foget the Indy 500 this last year, where the Michellin drivers weren't allowed to race.

That wasn't the Indy 500. That was F1's Indianapolis Grand Prix.

73 posted on 10/17/2005 8:31:28 AM PDT by GallopingGhost
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To: American Vet Repairman

Is there a NASCAR standard for track surface quality/condition? If not, there should be. At 100-200MPH the drivers should have a standard surface to race on.............


74 posted on 10/17/2005 8:32:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (In life, you don't get what you deserve. You get what you settle for...........)
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To: leadpenny

I heard something to that effect also. The owner assured the drivers that the track will be resurfaced by next May. Sounds like the drivers were not happy with that track at all.


75 posted on 10/17/2005 8:35:56 AM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA and SAS) 2005 WI PPA/CCW Ping List ~Contact me if you want on/off the ping list~)
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To: Quilla

Now THAT'S racin'!!!


76 posted on 10/17/2005 8:40:01 AM PDT by Pete'sWife (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: SengirV

You missed a few points: Going 180mph in a pack of 15 cars while making a left turn without turn signals or brake lights.

Think of it as every commuters worst nightmare.

F1, CART, etc. are all so great too. All those left turns and right turns inter-mingled is awesome. And once every 15-20 laps, someone may actually attempt to pass another car!!!


77 posted on 10/17/2005 8:50:10 AM PDT by kx9088
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To: Red Badger

"Is there a NASCAR standard for track surface quality/condition?"


There is a standard of quality on a track by track assessment. The standards of rail safety and degree of bank are in agreement with NASCAR standards. All track safety devices are NASCAR mandates. Actual track maintainance is the track owners responsibility. With the newer tracks California and Texas there was a hand in hand development. Charlotte is a great track and was a little wavy in the past. Due to some complaints the wave was ground down and now we have a speed monster that no tire was ready for.

If they resurface the track there will most likely be the new polymer that was used in Texas aplied to the asphalt. This polymer gives more adhesion to the car.


78 posted on 10/17/2005 8:56:23 AM PDT by American Vet Repairman (Gun control is a double tap and a head shot.)
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To: kx9088

During the Japanese Grand Prix a couple weeks ago, Finnish driver Kimi Raikkonen passed another driver (Alonso I think) on a very sharp turn with maybe a lap and a half left in the race. I watched the replay at least a half a dozen times and I still couldn't believe it. Hell, jockeys in horse racing don't pass other horses like this, let alone seeing it in motorsport.

The announcer said that pass was worth 100 NASCAR style passes......and he was right.

I respect the skill involved in NASCAR racing, but for my money F1 is so much better it's not even the same sport.


79 posted on 10/17/2005 9:10:06 AM PDT by Dazedcat
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To: Dazedcat

To each his own.

But to try and argue that "racing is not driving in circles making all left turns..." blah blah blah. Whatever.


80 posted on 10/17/2005 10:11:24 AM PDT by kx9088
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