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I haven't seen this posted on FR yet--if this is a duplicate, my apologies.
1 posted on 10/16/2005 11:02:44 AM PDT by MizSterious
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The big question is who wrote the message.


102 posted on 10/16/2005 12:34:40 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: MizSterious

A suicide note written on his computer, how very ingenious.


103 posted on 10/16/2005 12:39:29 PM PDT by pepperdog
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"He wrote he was dissatisfied with the situation and was going to quit living," the father said.

It doesn't seem that this message was written by a native speaker of the English language. "Dissatisfied with the situation"? "Quit living"?

That is strange phrasing.

105 posted on 10/16/2005 12:46:42 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: MizSterious

His last words were "Allah Akbar!"


107 posted on 10/16/2005 12:56:02 PM PDT by jimbo123
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Does anyone listen to Rusty Humphries? I get him on XM radio. He was all into this, he was saying this guy was a converted MUSLIM, who went to the same mosque as some other terrorist bombers and there was a big coverrup going on....there's nothing like that here. What gives>


110 posted on 10/16/2005 1:14:02 PM PDT by Hildy ( liberals cannot change the present, and cannot effect the future, so they MUST relive the past...)
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Was the message found before or after investigators hit the backspace a few times? (About 13 times, if you count the space between both words.)

</tinfoil>

119 posted on 10/16/2005 1:50:56 PM PDT by Redcloak (We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin' "whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!")
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To: MizSterious; laz; Lizarde; Rte66; PhiKapMom; Cougar66; brytlea; flattorney; indcons

Hi Miz,
Thanks for posting the article. Here is another version - this one from ABC Ch. 7 TV in Denver: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/5104187/detail.html

This whole thing is a complete mess...
A.) As others have pointed out how could his father not have remembered what was said in the "note". He is an incredibly intelligent man and what he does remember it "said" is remarkably similar to what Hinrichs father himself said he supposed Joel III felt like in past interviews.
B.) What would be the point of the FBI saying there was no note, and now saying there is?
C.) How could there be any proof the note was actually written by Joel III?
D.) Why did the FBI wait until Hinrichs father was in Oklahoma to call him and tell him about the note? (Was it the FBI that called him? - Can he be SURE about this?)
E.) WHEN did the FBI enter the apartment and find the note? Did anyone have access to the apartment BEFORE the FBI arrived?
F.) Still wondering how the FBI is allowed to discuss these items seeing as the search warrant and the file is still sealed by the DOJ???

Still more questions than answers...and the above are just the questions about the note itself. Still other HUGE questionsdiscrepancies regarding Cheema - his actual time of arrest (minutes vs. hours), the mysterious "5 others" reportedly (Ch. 9's Tamara Pratt) being looked for for helping with the bomb or taking things out of the apartment, Boren (who would know the security procedures declared after 9/11) insisting within 1-2 hours of the event that it was a "lone suicide" instead of treating it as a possible terrorist attack, etc.. etc...


137 posted on 10/16/2005 2:13:01 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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The student did not have a season ticket.

Perhaps this is appropriate considering the circumstance of the situation.

154 posted on 10/16/2005 3:05:23 PM PDT by EGPWS
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I wondered about possible damage by bomb "fragments" such as nails and such. Their presence would suggest to me an intent to kill others and the bomb went off accidentally.

Someone on scene at the time reported, "Three buses have been wiped down and sprayed, clearing the remains of the suicide bomber. The buses are still parked on the South Oval." No damage to buses mentioned -- except one had burn marks. See http://michellemalkin.com

Also, "there were 50 lit matches around the bench where he blew himself up."

Okay, suicide. He did all that to commit suicide. It appears.

Will we ever see all of the investigation results? Fat chance anything will be released.

The "sole" participants in the Murrah Building bombing have been tried, convicted and punished -- one executed and the other two (Nichols and Fortier) in prison but likely to suffer deadly "accidents" -- yes, I truly believe Nichols' days are numbered as people like Attorney Jesse Trentadue force more and more documents out via the federal courts. That cover-up reaches into the Clinton oral office, IMO.

The 1995 OKC bombing solved. Yet, key information remains locked up. Why? Where's the surveillance tapes? Even CBS, et al. can't get them. Why? What's the big deal about McVeigh parking the truck (alone), leaving the truck (alone), and driving off in an old Mercury (alone)?

157 posted on 10/16/2005 3:06:57 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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Bomb experts removed explosive-related materials from the apartment Oct. 2. Contributing: Randy Ellis

Hey Wally! Gee why do you have explosives under your bed?

Ahh, knock it off Beav and mind your own business!

Gee Wally I hope you don't hurt yourself with those explosives.

Beav, knock it off and just go to sleep.

You worry too much.

161 posted on 10/16/2005 3:14:23 PM PDT by EGPWS
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OU student left suicide message

I'm not buying it.

163 posted on 10/16/2005 3:18:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (What happened to the front door at David Koresh's house?)
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To: MizSterious

Just my opinion but anyone can write "your" suicide note on your computer....after yer dead.


164 posted on 10/16/2005 3:22:59 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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First there was no note and now there was a note?


169 posted on 10/16/2005 3:29:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: MizSterious

Kinda of sweet, fun-loving, all-American kid who lives just down the block. Kinda kid you'd like to hug,...except that he's in so many pieces that's not really an option!


221 posted on 10/16/2005 6:10:17 PM PDT by Doc Savage (...because they stand on a wall, and they say nothing is going to hurt you tonight, not on my watch!)
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It's been two weeks since the bombing, and this is the first time we hear about a suicide note? Give me a break. The FBI got their hands on his computer the day after the bombing. If there had been a suicide note on it, we would have heard about it much sooner, if only to quell all the "rumors". Sorry, but this doesn't wash.


230 posted on 10/16/2005 7:13:47 PM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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I can't say as I buy any of this. This "note" would have been found the night of or the day after the event. WHY NOT REVEAL IT THEN?

This stinks.

To me, this smells like a bunch of folks going over the entire crime scene, cleanining it and purging it from top to bottom of any evidence that might contradict a suicide, then "revealing" a bogus note that they now know cannot be disproven-- because they have eliminated anything that could disprove it.

And how convenient. A typewritten note (so anybody could have typed it). And not emailed or recorded onto a hard drive (so there is no time stamp as to when the note was entered).

Far-- FAAARRRRR to convenient for me.


235 posted on 10/16/2005 7:38:30 PM PDT by agooga (We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...)
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I read somewhere that the kid:

1) Was born in Mena, AR.
2) Has a brother who was a park ranger at Ft. Marcy park
3) Visited the Ft. Detrick research labs in Sept 2001
4) Was seen near a Kinkos in Abilene, TX in 2004

Don't know if any of these are significant or not...


241 posted on 10/16/2005 7:54:57 PM PDT by mikegi
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The curser was still blinking on the screen of his suicide note??
Where's his Pakistani roommate at now? He, or anyone, could have written it. I don't believe he can't remember what it said either.


338 posted on 10/17/2005 7:17:03 AM PDT by md2576 (Don't be such a Shehan Hugger!)
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" "He wrote he was dissatisfied with the situation and was going to quit living,""

Weird choice of words. When we see something posted in that context, it is often posted by someone not born in this country.


339 posted on 10/17/2005 7:53:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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This was covered in-depth on KVI radio in Seattle. Seems as if it took the bomb squad/police? a day to haul away all the interesting items and there were traces of a chemical that had been used by the Shoe Bomber - highly volatile and a mark of Muslim terrorists. The young man's roommates were Muslims from foreign countries. He tried 2 or 3 times to get into the stadium but was turned away when he refused to have his backpack inspected. He had attended a mosque across the street from his apartment, which was also the one which was attended by a former hijacker... Think I got all that correct. Seems the lamestream media is not picking this up. (GASP, big surprise) A few radio hosts were wondering if this was the first attempted suicide bomb in the United States... :( Definitely warrants greater investigating of facts.
360 posted on 10/17/2005 1:46:34 PM PDT by Libertina
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