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FRUM: A SINKING NOMINATION
NRO ^ | October 11, 2005 | David Frum

Posted on 10/12/2005 3:30:33 AM PDT by ejdrapes

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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

It is truly a mixed bag.

My heart wants to support President Bush for his strength on the war against Terrorism. He has been remarkable.

I do trust him.

But alas intellectual honesty is biting at my conscious. I can't get rid of it. Gosh darn it. I think that is what separates conservatives from the libs most of all, do you not all agree ? They swallow the cool-aid,spiked with what, I have often wondered !

As much as I think Reagan was the best President ever, hindsight makes me wish we had spoken up when Sandra OConnor was nominated. I was too young then to really have an opinion. I don't remember, did Reagan think she was conservative, originalist ? I can't recall. But her record proved otherwise.

Ms. Miers is truly accomplished, smart, no doubt. But how will she interpret the Constitution ? As it is written or otherwise ? Or was voting for Bush twice supposed make this understood ? *She will interpret as it was written*

Folks, our inter-party disagreements is part of the phrase, *freedom isn't free*.

Let me explain: We could all appear united. We could all just follow like the Clintonistas do. But would that be the best thing to do in the long run? You know the answer.

Freedom is not free. It sometimes makes things uncomfortable but well worth the good growth(for the party as a whole).

I hope I am expressing this well enough. God, please give us the spiritual fortitude to do the right thing today and always.


241 posted on 10/12/2005 7:20:06 AM PDT by citizensgratitude (Our Military, present & past, the Highest example of Brotherhood of Man and doing God's Will)
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To: sauropod
Er...." the jury is still out on Condi..."

Geez, sauropod, we are not on the same page on this one, period.

Our President knows MORE than we know about Harriet as well as about the nominations we all would have liked to see come forward. And if you or anyone else here on FR believes that our President would take a known risk with our Supreme Court, considering his entire life is based upon his faith and his determination to elevate our culture and defend our safety, now and into the future, then geez, there just isn't any discussion.

We are not liberals, we believe in balance and FAIRNESS.

Our President is not the only American around who has to uphold such ideals, we need to do it too.

To blast this good woman so much and so heavily before she has her day before the judiciary committee is just pure HOGWASH and totally liberal-like thinking, imo.

She is not ruth ginsberg, for heaven's sake.

And for myself, I'll take a known quantity of character and observation every-time. Glad our President, who has the RIGHT TO NOMINATE whom he deigns fit, thinks the same way.

242 posted on 10/12/2005 7:20:06 AM PDT by Republic (Michael Schiavo LIED about having a college degree on his guardianship application,)
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To: PhilipFreneau

Well, if the GOP has left conservatives, why do you think the President should respond to your objections?


243 posted on 10/12/2005 7:20:48 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
Can you say "catastrophic political miscalculation?"

I can, but I won't, at least until he pulls the nomination. We have to stay vigilant on this and not woos out like we usually do.

244 posted on 10/12/2005 7:21:46 AM PDT by massadvj
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To: rodguy911

>>>It's beginning to appear that some conservatives are just big cry babies. If they cant have their way...<<<

One think you can be certain of, roddie boy. The elitist, sexist, mentally challenged, cry-baby conservatives are not going to be swayed by the opinions of some Bush Boot-licker, or by anyone else who is Stuck on Bush.


245 posted on 10/12/2005 7:21:57 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." -- James 4:7)
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To: dmz; Ninian Dryhope; sauropod

Check the person's sign-up date again; yesterday Ninian Dryhope was rabidly defending the beating of the NOLA man by the cops...and today he/she is beating up on conservatives who are against Pres. Bush's betrayal of the base. Hmmm......a DU plant? Gotta wait and watch.


246 posted on 10/12/2005 7:22:06 AM PDT by indcons (Let the Arabs take care of their jihadi brothers this time around (re: Paki earthquake))
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To: Miss Marple
Miers deserves to be heard. Frum wants to silence her.

Frum continues to inch out on that limb. He does not even want Miers to be heard. I guess he's afraid she might be impressive, and his jihad will crumble into dust.

Shinola-head (his hair looks like he colors it with shoe polish) lacks discretion. He'll never work near a Republican administration again.

247 posted on 10/12/2005 7:23:13 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: citizensgratitude
Good points, all.

Though, President Reagan actually pledged-explicitly-to appoint the first female justice, so in a sense, you could say that he was merely fulfilling a campaign promise, however misguided it may have been.

President Bush, on the other hand, promised us Supreme Court justices in the mold of Scalia and Thomas, not a distinguished-but ideologically ambiguous-legal scholar and a glorified secretary.

248 posted on 10/12/2005 7:23:56 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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To: ejdrapes

What a silly drama queen. No wonder the WH gave him the boot.


249 posted on 10/12/2005 7:25:40 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Capriole

>>>I read elsewhere that 80% of the potential nominees decline a nomination because they can't face the increasingly vicious confirmation process. <<<

That is certainly possible since Bush showed little interest in supporting any of his nominees prior to Meirs (that fact, in itself, makes me suspicious of her).

>>>John Roberts is a one-in-a-million, unflawed judge so they attacked his children.<<<

Actually, for a conservative to be attacked by the New York Times tabloid is akin to receiving a high award for outstanding citizenship and service to our nation.


250 posted on 10/12/2005 7:26:19 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." -- James 4:7)
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To: LibLieSlayer; oblomov

People like you and your fellow Bush cheerleading squad members have been abusing anybody who disagrees with your ideas. I can take enough names but will not descend to the same level as y'all. It is ironic that you call somebody "delusional" while berating him/her for "the thick hate-flled attitude." LOL.....you folks are truly a funny bunch.


251 posted on 10/12/2005 7:26:49 AM PDT by indcons (Let the Arabs take care of their jihadi brothers this time around (re: Paki earthquake))
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To: Republic

When Bush promised the American public "faith-based initiatives" I had no idea that he was referring to future nominations to the Supreme Court.


252 posted on 10/12/2005 7:28:08 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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To: NCLaw441
This might have happened if our GOP Senators had any balls.

Actually, it might have happened if McCain in particular didn't have any balls! ;-)

253 posted on 10/12/2005 7:29:25 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
I do not care to let this pass. The President promised to appoint strict constructionists. When asked (at a different time) who his two favorite justices were, he answered Thomas and Scalia.

Now, I understand that one could infer he promised to nominate another Scalia, but that is not really what he said. He promised to appoint strict constructionists. Roberts is. Owens is. Brown is. He says that Miers is.

The problem is that we don't have enough information independent of the President's word. You don't believe him. I do.

254 posted on 10/12/2005 7:29:52 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: PhilipFreneau
My question is, what is so special about Meirs that has caused the president, first lady, and his other cronies to throw slurs at his conservative base, when their support for the previous (conservative) nominees to the bench was weak, at best?

By the numbers, Miers is the Democrat's choice for the job...The Democrat leader is the one who first thru out Miers name, for criying out loud...

Let's not forget, George is leading us to 'The New World Order'...

Slurring his supporters is nothing new...Those that want to protect the borders of the country from illegal invasion, drug runners and terrorists, Bush has branded vigilantes...His global plan is to eliminate the borders...

It's pretty clear we are divided into two camps...The Constitution, Sovereignty of the U.S. on one side, The NWO, globalism on the other...I'm happy to see some of the feeble Senators finally taking a stand for America...I don't know how Miers fits into this division, but I'll bet she does...

255 posted on 10/12/2005 7:30:02 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
That's why a Miers withdrawal ... and I'm beginning to think there's a chance it's going to happen because this stuff has now taken on a life of its own ... is not going to stop the furor here and elsewhere. Because if I'm wrong in what I'm about to say, I'll come back here and offer mea culpas and provide my address for folks who want to send me some crow. But IMHO, there is no way in this or any known solar system that the president is going to nominate Janice Brown or anyone like her to this seat, because as of Oct. 12, 2005 ... regardless of whether she was confirmed to the district seat, people keep trying to link the two and they are totally different and this is a totally separate set of circumstances ... I don't think Janice Brown or anyone like her will get through the Senate.

I said this yesterday and I'll repeat it until I'm blue in the face: We missed our chance, maybe our only chance, to do the constitutional option, because the president, who was stronger then than he is now, didn't twist enough arms and because Frist was a mound of jello as a leader.

256 posted on 10/12/2005 7:30:49 AM PDT by GB
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To: Miss Marple; oblomov
And if you want to allign yourself with Bill Kristol and David Frum, be my guest.

Look at the company you are keeping - Harry Reid, Gloria Steinheim, Patricia S. Schroeder, Susan Faludi, and Ann W. Richards. LOL....some conservative company you are keeping there....LOL. And you object to David Frum and Bill Kristol?????
257 posted on 10/12/2005 7:31:23 AM PDT by indcons (Let the Arabs take care of their jihadi brothers this time around (re: Paki earthquake))
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To: Miss Marple
Mr. Frum should quit whining. He wanted to open this debate, and now wants to close it before he is burned by public criticism. What a wuss.

What else would you expect from a Canuck?

258 posted on 10/12/2005 7:31:25 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: Miss Marple
Mr. Frum should quit whining. He wanted to open this debate, and now wants to close it before he is burned by public criticism. What a wuss.

What else would you expect from a Canuck?

259 posted on 10/12/2005 7:31:26 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: alnick

>>>No, it can only damage the coalition of the perpetually offended on the far right, and that can only be good.<<<

It can only be good for the Democrats. Are you a Democrat?


260 posted on 10/12/2005 7:33:41 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." -- James 4:7)
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