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'Bikinis and booze caused bombings'
The Australian ^ | October 10, 2005 | Simon Kearney

Posted on 10/09/2005 1:53:11 PM PDT by Dundee

'Bikinis and booze caused bombings'

AUSTRALIANS had declared a moral war on Muslims in Indonesia with their drinking and skimpy clothes in Bali, the eldest brother of three of those responsible for the 2002 attacks said yesterday.

Muhammed Khozin told The Australian at his home in Tenggulun, East Java, that his community didn't care about the October 1 Bali bombings because they were not linked to people from his village.

Mr Khozin's younger brothers Amrozi and Mukhlas were sentenced to death and Ali Imron to life imprisonment for their roles in the attacks on the Sari Club and Paddy's bar, which killed 202 people, including 88 Australians.

Mr Khozin said the behaviour of Westerners in his country was to blame for the radicalism adopted by his brothers.

"Alcohol, bikinis, that kind of thing makes Muslims angry. Don't do that when visiting a country with a Muslim majority," he said. "I'm sorry, Australian culture makes war on morality. They come to Bali with bikinis, they make war on morality. Not physical war, morality war. Respect the culture and religion of Indonesia."

His son, 19-year-old university student Afif, said there would be no end to terrorism while Australians continued going to Bali and behaving without respect for Muslim culture.

He believed the first Bali bombing committed by his uncles was justified because it discouraged tourists in Bali. "If Muslims died in that action, the Muslims will go to heaven," he said.

Afif said Muslims and Christians would only live side by side when Christians learned to respect Muslim culture.

Mr Khozin runs the Al-Islaman boarding school in the village that he founded with his late father 30 years ago. Such schools, known as pesantren, are seen as a breeding ground for terrorists.

He said if Canberra wanted to stop radicalism in Indonesia, it should teach Australians to be more respectful of Islam.

Moreover, Australia could help fund facilities at Islamic schools like his, which are mainly in poor areas and are under-resourced, to help better educate Muslims in Indonesia.

"Please give to us because maybe that's the way to make the relationship with Indonesia and Australia better," he said.

He taught his students the concept of "dakwah", which means to confront people who do things that are wrong and tell them to stop.

But he did not subscribe to the view of radicals that they should act to physically erase something they did not agree with.

His brothers had a different view of Islam to his but he believed they were still good people. He called on the Indonesian Government to return them to their community, where they could be rehabilitated.

"The community have a dream. If Amrozi came back here, he will do things like that."


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bali; indonesia; islam; jihad; modesty; rop; wot
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To: SmoothTalker

The religious police get to have all of the fun with their magic markers by covering up all the bare skin on magazines and other publications that enter into the country.


41 posted on 10/09/2005 2:41:21 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: JRios1968

Yeh! We gotta end their Las Vegas visiting rights.....Refuse to lettum off their private jets to visit Vegas,,,,


42 posted on 10/09/2005 2:41:40 PM PDT by litehaus
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To: Dundee

43 posted on 10/09/2005 2:41:52 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Dundee

....."Alcohol, bikinis, that kind of thing makes Muslims angry.....

A positively baptist attitude and dislike of sin.


44 posted on 10/09/2005 2:43:22 PM PDT by bert (K.E. ; N.P . I smell a dead rat in Baton Rouge!)
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To: Dundee

Bali is 93 percent Hindu. It's none of the Muslims' business what goes on there.


45 posted on 10/09/2005 2:43:26 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Dundee
"Alcohol, bikinis, that kind of thing makes Muslims angry. Don't do that when visiting a country with a Muslim majority,"

If this is what the majority believes, try protests, boycotts, and legislative actions first. Blowing up people is not good for anyone.

46 posted on 10/09/2005 2:44:29 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: litehaus

I think we ought to terminate their US visiting rights!


47 posted on 10/09/2005 2:44:52 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Serving fresh wit everyday, for 36 years.)
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To: theFIRMbss

48 posted on 10/09/2005 2:44:59 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Bars4Bill

"I'm waiting for the list (however skimpy) of what doesn't anger Muslims."

Hmm.
1). Suicide bombings
2). Corrupt regimes.
3). Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?


49 posted on 10/09/2005 2:47:08 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: Dutch Boy
Who's making this up? Howard Dean or Rhandi Rhodes?

The site of either of them in a bikini would be cause for Jihad!

50 posted on 10/09/2005 2:49:41 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: JRios1968
Ali replied: "Oh, that applies only in Bahrain. Allah is in Bahrain, not here, so we can do whatever we like."

Funny you mention that. I spent a little time in Bahrain (I'm navy) and we were told about respect for traditional Islamic culture and all that garbage. Female sailors were told to wear modest clothing and whatnot. I turn on TV in my hotel room and there is a Bahrainian music/dance show with local teenage girls dressed like Britney Spears. The hotel bars will filled with drunken Saudis cavorting with Russian prostitutes (these would be strikingly beautiful and very inexpensive Russian prostitutes).

Turns out the Saudis drive across the bridge to Bahrain and party because (and I swear this is what I was told) "Allah cannot see us in Bahrain." So their omnipotent little god is blind to sin when Saudis drive to Bahrain!

51 posted on 10/09/2005 2:50:07 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Paleo Conservative

You are a sick man. Funny, but sick.


52 posted on 10/09/2005 2:51:23 PM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Life is too short to go through it clenched of sphincter and void of humor - it's okay to laugh.)
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To: Drew68

Or when Bahrainis come to the US...for that matter, when any Muslims from that side come to the US. Maybe that's why the CAIR top mullah wants to make sure the US is under Sharia?


53 posted on 10/09/2005 2:52:11 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Serving fresh wit everyday, for 36 years.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup
Besides, there is ony one Randy Rhoades!


54 posted on 10/09/2005 2:52:44 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Cobra64

I want to see Ann Coulter in a bikini :-)


55 posted on 10/09/2005 2:53:22 PM PDT by mrsparkle
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To: gardencatz

Another one to bookmark. (ping!)


56 posted on 10/09/2005 2:54:55 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: mrsparkle
Warmongers!


57 posted on 10/09/2005 2:56:16 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: cardinal4; Paleo Conservative

To heck with a 15-yard penalty.

He should be ejected from the game!


58 posted on 10/09/2005 2:58:07 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: Dundee
Moreover, Australia could help fund facilities at Islamic schools like his, which are mainly in poor areas and are under-resourced, to help better educate Muslims in Indonesia.

"Please give to us because maybe that's the way to make the relationship with Indonesia and Australia better," he said.

There's the bottom line, ladies and gentlemen. Give it up or we'll kill more of you infidel dogs.

What's their word for the extra tax we infidels have to pay?

59 posted on 10/09/2005 2:59:21 PM PDT by metesky (This land was your land, this land is MY land; I bought the rights from a town selectman!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

That kind of thing would make me angry too! :)


60 posted on 10/09/2005 3:01:34 PM PDT by Pessimist
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