Posted on 10/06/2005 11:48:06 AM PDT by DallasMike
The mainstream media has been largely silent on the Joel H. Hinrichs III, the University of Oklahoma student who blew himself up outide the stadium hosting a football game with Kansas State University on Saturday, October 2nd. We now know that Hinrichs tried several times to enter the stadium during the first half of the game:
One OU senior, Adam Smith, of Oklahoma City, however, said a stadium guard Saturday night told him "a guy had springed off" outside Gate 6 after refusing to let his backpack be searched.
There still seem to be more questions than answers regarding last Saturday's explosion outside the University of Oklahoma's Memorial Stadium. According to law enforcement, Joel Henry Hinrichs III acted alone and was depressed when he strapped an explosive to himself, sat down 100 yards away from a stadium filled with 84,000 people and blew himself up.
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Yet, this week we have learned Hinrichs attempted to buy a large quantity of ammonium nitrate at a local feed store. We have learned he had other explosive materials in his apartment, and we have learned his Muslim roommate and associates were held briefly by law enforcement immediately after the explosion.
The Oklahoma Daily is reporting that area Muslims did not see Hinrichs visiting a particular local mosque, as some earlier reported. However, news reports have Boren attending a mosque somewhere.
Sources confirmed Tuesday that triacetone triperoxide (TATP) was one of the critical ingredients in the bomb. It's called the "Mother of Satan" by Muslim extremists. The ingredient is not common in the United States but has been used in the past by Muslim extremists, including the case of Richard Reid, the infamous shoe-bomber, who was unable to detonate the material. The material was also used in the July mass transit bombings in London. Other explosives were found at Hinrichs' apartment.
Blogger Mark Tapscott is reporting that authorities found 13 plastic bottles in Hinrichs' car trunk and small, round holes in a tree near the bomb site:
A Lincoln Town Car registered in the name of OU Suicide Bomber Joel Henry Hinrichs III remained as of 4:00 p.m. EST today in the parking lot of the apartment where he lived and a U.S. Department of Justice inventory of the contents found by law enforcement officials was visible on the seat, Tapscott's Copy Desk has learned.
Among the items listed on the inventory are "13 plastic bottles" in the trunk. The inventory did not note if there was anything in the bottles, their size or coloration. The blue Lincoln was registered in Oklahoma under Hinrichs' name in June of this year, according to state tag records. The expiration date on the tag was February 2006....
Tapscott's Copy Desk has also learned that a tree near where Hinrichs' bomb detonated displays a number of small round holes and some areas of a metallic substance. The holes and substance are only on the side facing the bench on which Hinrichs was seated when the bomb detonated. The holes appear to be about the size of the head of 16 penny nail.
Gateway Pundit confirms the Oklahoma City Channel 5 News report and Oklahoma City's News 9 that Hinrichs had inquired about purchasing large quantities of ammonium nitrate, which can be used to form an explosive. Hinrichs was apparently wearing vest with what appeared to be wires sticking out of it.
Dustin Ellison, the general manager of Ellison Feed & Seed on Porter Avenue, said that a man matching Hinrichs' description had come into the store days before he blew himself up on OU's campus. Ellison said the man asked about ammonium nitrate, but couldn't offer a reason why he needed it.
After the bombing, Ellison said he thought nothing of it. However, when he saw Hinrichs' photo, it triggered his memory.
Finally, Channel 5 news reports that Hinrichs' Pakistani Muslim roommate was detained briefly after the bombing:
NORMAN, Okla. -- The Pakistani roommate of a man authorities said died when he detonated an explosive device outside a crowded football stadium was led in handcuffs from a party shortly after Saturday's explosion, the head of an Islamic student group said.
Fazal M. Cheema, a finance major, shared a university-owned apartment with Joel Hinrichs III, 21, who died Saturday when a device attached to his body exploded as he sat on a bench outside George Lynn Cross Hall.
Cheema and three other Muslim students were led in handcuffs from a party by police after the blast, Ashraf Hussein, president of the Muslim Student Association, said Tuesday. They later were released.
It's time to put some pressure on the mainstream media to begin reporting these things. The more we learn about Hinrichs, the more questions we have about his beliefs and his behavior.
From the Oklahoma Daily story >>>
“It’s considered very Middle Eastern, the way (Hinrichs) killed himself or tried to kill others,” (Barakat) said.
In the words of an old Dixie Chicks song, "There's your trouble..."
"There was no problem whatsoever with it as long as it wasn't video."
Gotta protect those video publication rights. Priorities, ya know.
"College kids dont want their backpacks searched... "
I have tickets to a another Big 12 football team and backpacks are a big no no. Always have been at a football game.
Nope, links have been updated to give mainstream media confirmations of several items that were unsourced yesterday. One example is the News 9 report that an off-duty police officer who had his suspicions raised by Hinrichs' behavior at the feed storeJoel "Joe" Henry Hinrichs III raised the suspicions of a Norman feed store manager and an off-duty Norman police officer Sept. 28 when he tried to buy the type of fertilizer used in the 1995 bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building.
The off-duty officer, who just happened to be in the store, was concerned enough about Hinrichs’ demeanor that he jotted down his license tag number and called the police department to check his identity, officials said.
"Normal protocol is for that officer to submit an intelligence report when he comes back on duty," said Lt. Tom Easley, spokesman for the Norman Police Department. "My understanding is that when the officer did return to work, he did submit one, but that was after the fact."
The bomb had already gone off.
If that isn't a mistake, and Boren is attending a mosque -- we've got yet another problem in Norman and another dimension to this scenario.
"The bomb had already gone off."
Well, add another one to my list of dawdlers who contributed to this ... no report was filed by this off-duty police officer until after the fact. I smell CYA.
Original reports had him attending a particular mosque with extremist ties. The understanding now is that he was attending a mosque, but not that particular one.
And the President didn't mention it during his speech this morning.
I guess it only matters to us in fly over country.
Yep, the off-duty cop noticed the odd behavior on Wednesday the 28th of September. The bomb went off Saturday evening.
Is it normal for cops to have 4-day weekends?
"I guess it only matters to us in fly over country."
LOL, it's like we're teleported back to some alternate universe between presidential elections, isn't it?
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"Is it normal for cops to have 4-day weekends?"
Police have days off, too. But, he would have been highly credible to any dispatcher had he just called it in, right then and there. If it was odd and disturbing enough to have taken note, and copied the tag number, it was odd and disturbing enough to call it in at that time. Day off be damned.
I was feeling hopeful that our guys were on top of it yesterday, and even had begun to believe that they had the little idiot under surveillance, but now I've got a sinking feeling again.
"suspends habeas corpus"
I'm living in the only state that has never suspended the writ of habeas corpus, even during the Civil War. I'd imagine that that wouldn't be an easy thing to do, here at least.
Yup... every civilian becomes the enemy.
I appreciate the thread. It's easy to follow. Several comments:
Your recap implies "the ingedient" TATP is not common in the United States. In fact, the source document says the ingredients of TATP are common househould items. It's usage, however, is uncommon in the United States. I think that's a significant distinction.
That several people were questioned shouldn't be interpreted, absent more information, as meaning much of anything. My understanding is that the relationship between these people (other than the roomate) was that they lived in the same apartment complex. Given the roomate was Pakistani, it would only make sense these Muslims would have known Heinrich ("our friend Cheeba's weird roomate"). That doesn't mean they had any involvement.
Why would these guys have stuck around if they were involved in a plot with Heinrich? Whether he blew himself up or someone detonated him remotely, accomplices living in the same complex who knew him would likely have scattered after such an incident. Perhaps they figured it looked sufficiently like a not-so-old fashioned suicide that they weren't at risk. More likely, they weren't accomplices.
"our friend Cheeba's weird roomate"
That would hold up if it weren't for several reports of bomb making materials, ammonium nitrate and Jihadi literature in the dorm room. Don't forget, that was Cheeba's dorm room as well.
it would only matter to the MSM if the bomber had been an anti-abortion activist. then this would be considered important.move along now. nothing to see here.
Thanks, it wasn't meant to be a thread to end all threads but rather a simple thread, with links, to what we positively know about Hinrichs as of right now.
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