Posted on 10/06/2005 8:54:53 AM PDT by cgk
Edited on 10/06/2005 9:03:34 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
You two should get a room.
The two groups at work are the Bible thumpers, and BushBots, Both blindly follow, and the second group is everyone else.
And who then use their merit to give us abominations like Roe v. Wade, because with their merit, they were able to find penumbras where none existed before.
I guess I'm a moron shoert of merit, because I've read the entire Constitution time and time again, and for the life of me I can't spot that penumbra. Maybe I need to pass the paper over a candle so it appears. Maybe I need to go back to school and learn how to give words new meaning.
What are you Bush hacks trying to tell the base with this focus-group-tested line: that they're stupid and uneducated, and should do as they're told? Seems like y'all might be taking this "reverse snobbery" tack a little too far.
and those who believe the Constitution was written for the people, not for the lawyers.
Gee, ya mean Miers isn't a lawyer? She's just a li'l ol' people? Is that why we "Ivy League" elitists oppose her? Or is it because we---meaning everyone in the base---were solemnly, explicitly and repeatedly promised a distinguished nominee like Scalia or Thomas for SCOTUS, not Bush's personal lawyer? Ya think????
No, an "elitist" is someone who accepts a resume as shorthand for merit.
In this case, her "merit" is not known to either of us. Her "merit" lies in her views on the Constitution, and those are largely unknown outside the POTUS' inner circle.
You may argue that the pick is poor BECAUSE we cannot evaluate her, but that is quite a different argument.
Since we KNOW, beyond a doubt, that the right resume has zero correlation to an ability to read the plain meaning of words, we KNOW that her resume, or lack of one, is immaterial to her merit to serve on the Court.
What's more, this lack of correlation has been a centerpiece of conservative criticism of court picks for decades now.
Now, suddenly, it is important that a court pick be "accomplished"?
I don't care if she is "accomplished". I want her to be a good judge. THE LAST 50 YEARS OF SCOTUS HISTORY DEMONSTRATES THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN THESE TWO.
So, given that, what to do?
Answer: pick someone who is competent in the law but who you know PERSONALLY will read the document the way it is written. And that is what Bush did.
The evidence is in George Will's and Ann Coulter's columns. Have you read these? Are you saying the evidence is not plainly there? What is your point?
Exactly. I never voted for him thinking we would agree on everything; that person could never get elected, even 30 years ago. I elected him for judges, and he hasn't failed yet.
LOL!!!
That's the problem, isn't it? - - "years from now".... It didn't have to be that way, and I am sick of having to keep my fingers crossed for years.
With so many good judges out there who are certifiable warriors of the right, who are fighting the good fight every day on the front lines, paying their dues and then some, and leaving a "paper trail" a mile long, why did Bush have to come up with two stealths in a row??
Now we can only keep our fingers crossed and hope that Miers isn't another Souter.
The way things are headed, it might make better odds than cheerleading for Bush, 'spur. Crazy all the way to the bank, knowwhaddahmean?
LOL.
"BS" is a pretty good label, isn't it?
Would that be BSist?
Thomas was not considered distinguished when appointed. People, on both sides of the political spectrum, were calling him Bush's affirmative action pick.
I pray you are right and I am wrong.
Well let the 'take my ball and go home crowd' rant all they want to. In the end Ms. Miers will be confirmed as the next Associate Justice. I think she'll be a fine one but that's neither here nor there. She met the criteria of the man choosing her and I'd trust his vision into knowing her as opposed to some keyboard jockeys who know not one whit about her ideology nor have had a personal discussion with her over the years....
Bushbots..... Bush bashers..... Donner Party faithful..... right wingers..... left wingers..... liberals...... conservatives.... etc. etc. Labels are basically a dime a dozen and are interesting to pique the group they are thrown at otherwise they aren't worth much more than a warm bucket of spit.
On another thread I was called a retard
WOW ... I'm sooooooooooo impressed with such a mature discussion/debate like that
He attacked every single aspect of the memorial.
Sometimes the man is simply way off the mark.
If you're trying to say that lawyers have fornicated up the constitution, I won't disagree. However, I don't think that's a good thing.
To a drunken bum lying in a gutter, everyone walking above him is 'elitist'!
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