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Sen. Allen: 'Hate Crimes' Support Breaks No Promise
CNS ^ | 10/6/05

Posted on 10/06/2005 6:25:23 AM PDT by areafiftyone

(CNSNews.com) - Virginia Republican Sen. George Allen, considered by political insiders to be a contender for the party's 2008 presidential nomination, is being accused of breaking a campaign promise with his support of pro-homosexual federal "hate crimes" legislation. Allen denies that he broke any promise.

The criticism comes from Joe Glover, president of the Virginia-based Family Policy Network (FPN) and involves an Oct. 27, 2000, letter that Allen wrote to a constituent.

The recipient of that letter was acting as a liaison between Allen - at the time a candidate for the Senate - and pro-family leaders who were concerned about Allen's position on granting legal recognition or special privileges to homosexuals.

"As we discussed, if I am elected to the Senate, I will take no action that would have the effect of elevating sexual orientation to civil rights status," Allen wrote, "including, but not limited to, adding sexual orientation to Federal Hate Crimes legislation or any other similar legislation."

Glover is accusing Allen of violating that pledge when the freshman senator voted to support the addition of "sexual orientation" as a protected category under the federal "hate crimes" law in 2004. The amendment did not become law, but the House recently passed a similar proposal. Glover is rallying conservatives to discourage Allen from supporting the current measure in an upcoming vote.

"If pro-family leaders talking to him privately can't trust George Allen to follow through with a promise," Glover told Cybercast News Service, "hopefully enough conversation with Virginians who feel strongly about this issue can make that difference."

But Allen insists he has broken no promise.

"When I ran for the U.S. Senate in 2000, I stated numerous times that I would support adding 'sexual orientation' to the category of 'hate crimes,' unless the legislation raised 'sexual orientation' to the level of a civil right, which I could not support," Allen said. He explained that the 2004 amendment was "different from earlier proposals," and "(did) not elevate 'sexual orientation' to civil rights status."

Glover argues that Allen's promise to "take no action that would have the effect of ... adding sexual orientation to Federal Hate Crimes legislation or any other similar legislation," in the 2000 letter negates those arguments.

"This isn't about what we're saying our position is," Glover said. "It's about what George Allen assured pro-family leaders, was his position."

Glover claims it was Allen, not the pro-family groups, who first used the language regarding "elevating 'sexual orientation' to civil rights status," during their discussions.

"He made it extremely clear that any type of legislation similar to what he was looking at in 2000 ... would have the effect, in his own words, of elevating 'sexual orientation' to civil rights status," Glover continued. "And he promised not to do it."

John Reid, communications director for Allen, called the disagreement "a misunderstanding of what the letter says and what the senator said over and over again in the campaign.

"We understand the sensitivity that others are expressing on this," Reid continued, "but the main point of Senator Allen's support for this legislation is to get criminals off the street and that needs to be the paramount concern here."

Glover scoffed at that claim.

"I know that he'd like to come up with some way to wiggle out of this," Glover said of Allen. "But the fact of the matter is he left himself no room to wiggle from it with this letter."

On Sept. 14, the House passed The Children's Safety Act of 2005 (H.R. 3132), which added gender, "sexual orientation," "gender identity" and disability to the list of motivations for criminal offenses which could trigger federal involvement in a state prosecution.

Critics charge that, in addition to providing legal recognition of individuals because they engage in homosexual behavior, the proposal could quash criticism of homosexuality by religious leaders.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 109th; allen2008; georgeallen; homosexualagenda; hr3132; president2008; thoughtpolice
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To: areafiftyone

uh-oh


21 posted on 10/06/2005 6:53:31 AM PDT by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: areafiftyone; RockinRight
Watching paint dry is mroe fun than watching Senator Allen on TV. The guy has no appeal. He has a habit of putting his foot in his mouth. I kinda got turned off when he suggested that Bush should meet with Cindy Sheehan a second time.

I've known him for 20 years and I'd have to disagree. But that's my personal opinion.

As for the Cindy Sheehan comment, he did not say the President should have met with her again. He did say that he would have met with her before she began her media circus, but not after.

22 posted on 10/06/2005 6:57:05 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (You are stuck on stupid, I’m not going to answer that question ~ General Honore)
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To: Semper Paratus

I know the answer... It will be Mike Pence from Indiana!!!
He is an articulate conservative who is ideologically committed to limited government!


23 posted on 10/06/2005 6:57:37 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Paloma_55

Hate Crime legislation is an Equal Protectioon clause violation, IMO.


24 posted on 10/06/2005 6:57:51 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: RockinRight

He has been my first choice. I need to look into this more. First blush is troubling.


25 posted on 10/06/2005 6:57:58 AM PDT by twigs
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To: areafiftyone

Once again, it depends on what the meaning of "is" is.


26 posted on 10/06/2005 7:00:31 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: RockinRight

Wow! I think this is the first time I have ever disagreed with you! Romney is the real threat! He already(amazingly) has borderline-movement conservatives pushing him and he WILL push FEDERALISM hard.He will be way more articulate than Allen or Romney.Romney isn't more conservative or competent than Allen,but he will appear to be both.


27 posted on 10/06/2005 7:01:12 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Gipper08

You may have a point there. I guess I just figure that most Midwestern and Southern Pubbies won't fall for a Massachusetts Republican.


28 posted on 10/06/2005 7:02:23 AM PDT by RockinRight (Why are there so many RINOs?)
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To: Gipper08
Brownback, Pawlenty, Allen

Allen is obviously not ideal, but he passes the threshold of acceptability, unlike out-and-out liberals like Romney, Rudy, et al.

29 posted on 10/06/2005 7:02:33 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country" -- Mitt Romney)
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To: browardchad

Whenever someone says that I see Bill Clinton shaking his finger at the camera. ((((SHUDDER))))


30 posted on 10/06/2005 7:02:56 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: JohnnyZ
"Brownback,"
Immigration makes him a non starter.
Voted for NCLB and Medicare
etc

"Pawlenty"
He is not a movement conservative and does not have the support of conservatives in his own state.
He is too pro-big education
Broke his no new tax pledge
etc
31 posted on 10/06/2005 7:06:15 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: areafiftyone
Indexing to

Allen2008

President2008

32 posted on 10/06/2005 7:06:46 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country" -- Mitt Romney)
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To: RockinRight
You would think....but Romney has more conservative grassroots support than Allen or Brownback.Especially in Michigan and New Hampshire.Romney has more support in Minnesota than Pawlenty for 08,I kid you not! Romney is a threat to conservatism!
33 posted on 10/06/2005 7:09:25 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Semper Paratus

You're probably right on at least two of the three. I'd like to see an election where I didn't have to hold my nose to vote.


34 posted on 10/06/2005 7:10:21 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired...)
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To: ManHunter

Mike Pence wouldn't make you hold your nose. He's a breath of fresh air!


35 posted on 10/06/2005 7:11:41 AM PDT by RockinRight (Why are there so many RINOs?)
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To: RockinRight

You're right, of course - which is why he won't be one of the three remaining...


36 posted on 10/06/2005 7:14:54 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired...)
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To: Gipper08
Sam Brownback has been a trusted conservative for years. People who hate immigrants won't vote for him, but people who want to reform immigration will.

Tim Pawlenty has a great track record as governor, pushing through conservative legislation in a state traditionally run by liberals. He got 95% of what he wanted in the budget even when the Rats forced a government shutdown. He's been a very good fiscal and social conservative, with some populist initiatives on peripheral issues. Next best thing to Jeb governor-wise.

37 posted on 10/06/2005 7:18:25 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country" -- Mitt Romney)
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To: ManHunter

It is up to us to make Mike Pence one of the three remaining!!!! Grassroots,grassroots,grassroots!The establishment is arrogant and lazy,we the people, can take it to them.We can do it if we start now!


38 posted on 10/06/2005 7:18:53 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: ManHunter

I wouldn't be too sure of that yet. Can't predict anything two-and-a-half years out, but who were people talking about for the 2000 nomination in 1997?


39 posted on 10/06/2005 7:19:21 AM PDT by RockinRight (Why are there so many RINOs?)
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To: areafiftyone
George Allen in 2008

Next!
40 posted on 10/06/2005 7:22:12 AM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gifts parents can give their children are siblings.)
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