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To: ElkGroveDan

I am discussing the cold hard calculation of winning and losing Nationwide.

Some of you don't seem to realize that Republicans are in trouble.

Someone like Giuliani that you don't consider Republican enough may ironically be the only Republican that can win, with coat tails. At worst- for you -he maintains a bridge to a more "respectable" Republican next time.

The alternative is complete Democrat control which I am beginning to gather some would prefer.


65 posted on 10/02/2005 10:13:42 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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To: Sabramerican
Someone like Giuliani that you don't consider Republican enough may ironically be the only Republican that can win, with coat tails.

How is that going to happen when an entire segment of Republican voters stay home? I'm not advocating it, but I know it will happen. There are millions upon millions of deeply devout Christians who are loyal Republican voters, but they simply won't vote for someone who supports abortion and sexual perversion. Go ahead and lecture all you want, but it's a fact of politics.

69 posted on 10/02/2005 10:20:52 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: Sabramerican

"I am discussing the cold hard calculation of winning and losing Nationwide. Some of you don't seem to realize that Republicans are in trouble. Someone like Giuliani that you don't consider Republican enough may ironically be the only Republican that can win, with coat tails."

Yeah, like what issue? Gun rights? We win on it. Partial birth abortion? We win bigtime on it. What social issue are we losing on?


72 posted on 10/02/2005 10:22:05 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("They'll have to basically rip my fingers from this porch." com/focus/bloggers/1483977/posts)
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To: Sabramerican

Too many Freepers can't grasp the very clear fact that most of the electorate isn't nearly as conservative as they are. Most of the Bush voting consituency isn't as conservatve as we are.

The dems have had problems since there most extreme liberal members have an unyeilding stranglehold on the national party that alienates voters.

Any Freeper who thinks that the same can't happen on our side of the aisle is utterly out of touch.


328 posted on 10/24/2005 10:04:34 PM PDT by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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