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To: Sabramerican

"I am discussing the cold hard calculation of winning and losing Nationwide. Some of you don't seem to realize that Republicans are in trouble. Someone like Giuliani that you don't consider Republican enough may ironically be the only Republican that can win, with coat tails."

Yeah, like what issue? Gun rights? We win on it. Partial birth abortion? We win bigtime on it. What social issue are we losing on?


72 posted on 10/02/2005 10:22:05 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("They'll have to basically rip my fingers from this porch." com/focus/bloggers/1483977/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Win Big Time?

A sitting President, in war time, running against one of the biggest jerks to ever run for Preisident, would have lost but for 100000 votes in Ohio.


74 posted on 10/02/2005 10:25:02 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Yeah, like what issue? Gun rights? We win on it. Partial birth abortion? We win bigtime on it. What social issue are we losing on?

Most americans are not as solidly pro life as the GOP core base is. Dr. Rice describes herself as a moderate pro choicer - that is, for parental notification for children seeking abortions, against partial birth abortion, against federal funding for abortions, ok with abortion in cases of rape or incest, and probably ok with most first trimester abortions.

This is probably roughly where most Americans are, though it's not where the most passionate pro lifers are. There is no broad consensus to outright outlaw abortion in the USA at all. Pro Lifers, Freepers, or anybody else waiting for that day have a poor evaluation of the political climate.

331 posted on 10/24/2005 10:10:52 PM PDT by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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