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To: laz

What was with those folks saying nothing unusual happened? I couldn't figure it out. Maybe from OU Administration trying to peddle the depressed story that is not being taken seriously.

Channel 5 -- expert at Terrorism Center said not an act of terrorism. OU not changing any procedures at games. Then says they might make a new announcement at a press conference on Wednesday. Talking to two kids who took videos of the scene.

Now reporting the roommate will not speak to them.

This is a whitewash story compared to earlier this evening. Showing pictures now of the kid's picture with the beard and his father is talking. He left no suicide note behind. His Dad is weird.

Speculation he is a terrorist? -- Father said a terrorist tries to scare other people but no one was around when Joel did this. Weird statements.

Hydrogen peroxide used to make the bomb according to FBI. Parents home was searched.

Channel 5 completely different then at 5:00 and the people reporting are in more of a monotone now. Unlike Channel 4 they didn't report the FBI was tight lipped.


3,814 posted on 10/03/2005 9:40:12 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Istook for OK Gov in 06; Allen for Pres in 08)
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To: PhiKapMom

Very strange--the sudden change in the content of the coverage by local media, as well as the demeanor of the reporters.

The father may be in shock, but it sure sounds like he didn't like the kid very much.


3,817 posted on 10/03/2005 9:47:02 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: PhiKapMom
What was with those folks saying nothing unusual happened?

Very strange, wasn't it? I can understand someone wishing to remain skeptical and not jump to conclusions, and wishing to wait for more information, but a couple of posters here seemed intent on heading off anything in the way of speculation. It was so consistent and persistent, it seemed to me they had a definite agenda.

3,824 posted on 10/03/2005 9:56:51 PM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: PhiKapMom
Father said a terrorist tries to scare other people but no one was around when Joel did this.

Usually, no one is around if the bomb went off before it was meant to.

I find it impossible to believe that someone who is depressed to the point of committing suicide is going to invest time and effort in making a bomb. It just isn't human nature. And for what, to blow himself up sitting on a bench with practically no witnesses? Making a bomb doesn't indicate someone who is depressed. It indicates someone who is angry and has a plan.

The only part of the depressed angle I can buy is that it could make someone vulnerable to being brainwashed and manipulated. Someone depressed and unsure of his direction in life, as Hinrichs has been described, would be a perfect target for recruitment and programming by Islamic handlers looking for someone to do their dirty work for them. Especially in a university environment. All the elements are there for such a scenario. And with everything that has gone on in Norman, I'd say the tinfoil hat should be standard equipment when looking at this.

3,835 posted on 10/03/2005 10:08:36 PM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: PhiKapMom
I am glad you also thought the Dad was weird. Does anyone know his background? Just some of his "phraseology" didn't sound like he was from the Midwest. It was my understanding that they moved from Illinois to Colorado Springs a number of years ago.

Also, said he and his wife divorced, anyone know where the Mother is?

A last name would be the father's. Maybe jumping to conclusions but I would think a Mother would be wanting to know what happened to her son.
4,239 posted on 10/04/2005 7:38:36 PM PDT by not2worry (What goes around comes around!)
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