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Me either. DHS keeps waffling as well, they said no... then yes, then released a report that backed up NYC... now they say no threat again.
It would be nice to see them back up NYC, at least until the suspected threat window has closed. If not, there could be some middle ground. I can't blame the mayor for protecting his citizens though, it's nice to see after the Nagin debacle.
BF posted new links:
http://www.wincoast.com/forum/showthread.php?p=375458#post375458
Why is
DHS downplaying this? <<<<
I can only take a wild guess.
It may be that they want the terrorist to think they can get away with it and that they will be caught.
They have alerted the cities, L.A and San Francisco are on
alert, as is Las vegas.
We know there is a threat, but many of the people in America are calling the talk shows, they think it is all to raise The Presidents poll numbers and for no other reason.
The report is 19 killers are in the U.S., they have to set traps for them.
They do set traps, when I worked at the Court House, I had
a car that I had backed into a pole and broke the headlight,
we had only one body shop in town, so there was were i went
and they ordered the tail light set up for the car.
While I was waiting, the Sarge of the police for the area, came to me and asked me to take him to the body shop.
When the time came to leave, I had a full swat team setup
in my little 74 Toyota Corolla, the smallest car and a
7 foot sargent........
He laid the passenger seat down and some how got in the
car, with his gear.
I drove into the building and when it was secure, he got out and spent the night there waiting for a breakin, as he had
a tip......and we had some bad people who had moved into the town.......
They didn't breakin, as I would have had to handle the papers to enter them in the docket, if there were arrests.
Common every day work for the police who are trying to do their job and I suspect this is the same jobs that are going on now.
They do set traps, when I worked at the Court House, I had
a car that I had backed into a pole and broke the headlight,
we had only one body shop in town, so there was were i went
and they ordered the tail light set up for the car. <<<
Lesson learned, need to proof read, before posting.
It was a tail light.
This reminds me of the small airport by the Washington/Canada border we were talking about recently. Someone had a map of the airport.
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I've been wrestling with the same question. Maybe it's a disinformation plan with the hopes of catching the bad guy; at least I hope so.
Thanks to F15 Eagle for the ping to these 2 threads:
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1499528/posts
"Al-Arian trial turns to Web evidence (Palestinian Islamic Jihad)"
St. Petersburg Times ^ | Published October 6, 2005 | By BRADY DENNIS, Times Staff Writer
Posted on 10/09/2005 1:29:18 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1499529/posts
"Al-Arian defense draws attention to Israeli actions (Palestinian Islamic Jihad)"
St. Petersburg Times ^ | Published October 7, 2005 | By MEG LAUGHLIN
Posted on 10/09/2005 1:33:34 PM PDT by F15Eagle
When it was stolen, the cylinder was holding about 135 pounds of chlorine. Authorities say that's enough to pose a serious health risk. It's a health risk they hope they don't see again.
Thanks for posting those links Cindy. I wonder how much longer the trial will last. If Sami walks it will be a dark day.
"All one needs to do is watch what the LEOs are DOING."
Yep...and there are many more unmarked vehicles in use.
Thank you all4one.
It will be interesting to see how this trial turns out.
A lot of twists and turns, or so it seems.
Thanks to Lahargis for pointing to this article:
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"Authorities Respond To Missing Chlorine Tank"
http://www.keloland.com/News/NewsDetail5440.cfm?Id=0,43096
10/09/2005
Authorities Respond To Missing Chlorine Tank
"On Friday...we told you about a search going on in O'Brien County...Iowa...for a 150 pound tank of chlorine.
"Thanks to response from the community, authorities say the tank has been recovered in nearby Clay County but the investigation continues."
ARTICLE SNIPPET #2: "The cylinder was taken directly off a feeder line in this well pump house. When it was stolen, the cylinder was holding about 135 pounds of chlorine. Authorities say that's enough to pose a serious health risk."
ARTICLE SNIPPET#3: "Vander Veen says they still don't know if or how much chlorine was taken from the cylinder."
Taliban military chief Mullah Dadullah told Reuters that Afghanistan had become a "hub of disturbance, killings, looting and drugs" since the Taliban's overthrow in late 2001.
Dadullah, speaking by satellite phone from an undisclosed location, denounced presidential and legislative elections in October 2004, and September 18 this year as U.S.-staged "dramas."
He said the latest polls for a national assembly and provincial councils had brought in "old murderers and warlords."
"Those who were happy over the fall of the Taliban have now realized the American occupation of their country was just for the sake of American interests," he said.
"It's proven the Americans occupied our country by raising the bogey of terrorism and have no sympathy with Afghans."
Dadullah called Afghanistan a "drug-manufacturing factory" with government ministers involved in the narcotics trade.
"We will continue our jihad until we drive out foreign troops from our country," he said.
Excerpted
http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2005/10/09/4135.shtml
MANILA - The Philippines on Sunday welcomed a 10-million-dollar US bounty on the head of a senior Jemaah Islamiyah militant believed to be hiding in the jungles of southern Mindanao island.
Presidential spokesman Ignacio Bunye said Manila hoped the reward offer would help capture Indonesian Dulmatin, who is believed to be receiving shelter from Khdadday Janjalani, leader of the local Muslim militant group Abu Sayyaf.
“The bounty offered by the US government will definitely drive more civilians and more communities to the manhunt,” Bunye said in a statement.
“These efforts underscore our strong alliance with the US in the fight against terror as well as our partnership with our neighbours to get the Bali bombers and their cohorts.”
Dulmatin is believed to have been one of the masterminds of the 2002 bombings that killed 202 people on the Indonesian island of Bali. The JI is also being blamed for last week’s Bali bomb attacks that left at least 20 dead.
Washington has also offered a one million dollar reward for Umar Patek, another Indonesian JI militant.
The US reward announced Thursday for information that could help capture or kill Dulmatin is second only to the 25 million dollars offered for Osama bin Laden and Iraq insurgency leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
The Abu Sayyaf is a small group of Islamic militants, featured on the US State Department’s list of foreign terrorist organizations. It is wanted for a spate of kidnappings, murders and bomb attacks, including a passenger ferry blast that killed more than 100 people on Manila Bay last year.
Security analysts say the JI has been increasingly building links with the Abu Sayyaf and taking advantage of the Philippines’ porous southern borders to plot attacks in the region.
When I was the night operator for the county water & sewer district, I handled Cl all the time- it's nasty stuff.
One of the original WWI poison gases, it's always proved a two-edged sword when tried as a weapon- as likely to harm your guys as the enemy.
It is very deadly if the victim inhales a concentrated dose, but the problem has always been delivery of the stuff. And, being a gas, it dissapates fairly rapidly. That said, in an enclosed space, it's bad stuff.
I wouldn't be terribly worried about it, but it would be nice it they could account for it.
The Army has closed illegal border passes from Syria with earth mounds and tightened its siege of Syrian-controlled Palestinian guerrilla bases in the Bekaa Valley and hills overlooking Beirut's southern flank as Premier Saniora held Saturday a 2-pronged dialogue with Presidents Assad and Abbas loyalists.
Local media reports said Lebanese army raids targeted posts held by the three main pro-Syrian factions in the Bekaa towns of Taanayel, Rawda and Yanta, seizing mortars, rocket-propelled grenades and explosives and detaining nine Palestinian fighters in the past 24 hours.
Three of the detainees belonging to the Damascus-backed Fatah-Uprising faction were later released and deported to the Syrian capital. There was no solid word on what happened to the six others, but one Beirut TV report said they were all set free late Friday night.
Syria's own Palestinian organization, Al Saiqa, said in a statement from Damascus that its raided center in Taanayel had been closed two weeks before the Syrian army completed its evacuation of Lebanon on April 26 and that the weapons seized by the Lebanese army were all unusable.
Ahmed Jibreel's Popular Front for the Lebanese of Palestine-General Command, Syria's closest Palestinian ally, contends its bases in the Bekaa and Naameh hills south of Beirut are essential to defend Palestinians against potential Israeli attacks without any ill-intentions against Lebanon's own security.
Saniora's main purpose from the dialogue with various Palestinian groupings is to ban Palestinian arms anywhere in Lebanon outside the 12 refugee camps spanning the country from the north to the south through the Bekaa and Beirut, he has ascertained, ruling out an armed confrontation.
This was accepted in advance by President Abbas and the PLO delegation that embraces Fatah, George Habash's Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), Nayef Hawatmeh's Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP), the Arab Liberation Front and the Armed Struggle Front.
Spokesmen for these groups said in separate statements before going to the Grand Serail for the talks with Saniora at mid-morning that they have their own demands for a durable alliance with the Lebanese authorities—improving living conditions of camp dwellers and reversing sentences passed against Palestinian leaders during Syria's tutelage over Lebanon.
This was an obvious reference to the death sentence handed down against Brig. Gen. Sultan Abul Ainein years ago after convicting him of murder and forming a terrorist network of extortion.
Abul Ainein has long been Fatah's top representative in Lebanon and is currently tipped to become the Palestinian Authority's ambassador to Lebanon once the death sentence is reversed in a hope-for retrial after Syria's evacuation of Lebanon.
He placed all five refugee camps under Fatah's control in south Lebanon at the highest combat alert to support the Lebanese army in fighting off any Israeli troop landings at camps on the outskirts of Lebanon's two port cities of Sidon and Tyre, where he has his command headquarters.
"It is our duty to go on alert after the Lebanese army had placed its troops around the camps on 'red' alert to repulse Israeli paratroop attacks. We have also to defend ourselves," Abul Ainein said at a news conference he held in the Rashidiyeh camp near Tyre on Friday.
PLO spokesman in Lebanon, Marwan Abdelaal, told reporters his meeting with Saniora had been positive and that they decided to "regulate armament inside refugee camps so they do not become security islands."
The other delegation of pro-Syrian factions comprises Jibreel's PFLP-GC, Saiqa, Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Their delegation met Saniora shortly after midday and showed no willingness to disband the Bekaa and Naameh strongholds.
Beirut, Updated 09 Oct 05, 08:23
http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/Newsdesk.nsf/Lebanon/4A0A2533B04F97EFC22570940020E340?OpenDocument
"And, being a gas, it dissapates fairly rapidly. That said, in an enclosed space, it's bad stuff."
I recall all sorts of precautions in my chem labs decades ago. How hard would it be to fill a milk jug with it and would the plastic cap need more than tape to seal it?
"I just don't understand the disconnect between DHS and NYC officials."
DHS has one moto:
Keep the public in the dark.
The disconnect between DHS and NYC boils down to the old boys club that used to be the rift between the FBI-CIA. Each group wants to be right. Their's is the only intelligence that is good etc.
The difference here is that NYC has no choice but to err on the side of it's citizens safety. They did the right thing!
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