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Schwarzenegger vetoes gay marriage bill
MSNBC ^ | AP

Posted on 09/29/2005 4:16:31 PM PDT by minus_273

SACRAMENTO - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger followed through Thursday on his promise to veto a bill to legalize gay marriage in California, saying the issue should be decided by voters or the courts.

“This bill simply adds confusion to a constitutional issue,” the Republican governor said in a veto message. “If the ban of same-sex marriage is unconstitutional this bill is not necessary. If the ban is constitutional this bill is ineffective.”

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab849; arnold; arnoldvetoes; california; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; joinarnold; liberals; mrfreeze; samesexmarriage; schwarzenegger; sodomy; sodomymarriage; terminator; veto; vivaarnold; westhollywood
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To: republicofdavis

lolol

What's a matter, can't take a joke?


101 posted on 09/29/2005 6:58:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: calcowgirl

It would be helpful to know what those bills were about


102 posted on 09/29/2005 6:59:04 PM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: minus_273

bttt


103 posted on 09/29/2005 7:02:10 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: minus_273

Glad to see it.


104 posted on 09/29/2005 7:04:14 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: minus_273

So much news breaking today.

Good for Arnold.

I give him real credit for standing up to do the right thing.

And, yes, I DO support Arnold's re-election. Despite bitter purists that resent the reality California is not Utah, so are incapable of recognizing better Arnold than Grey Davis....or, in my case, Gregoire.


105 posted on 09/29/2005 7:04:27 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: minus_273

Sic 'em Arnold!


106 posted on 09/29/2005 7:04:28 PM PDT by afnamvet
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To: NormsRevenge

I know you're referring to me with this post. I told you that I did not have any talking points. You either didn't believe me or you're a liar. If you didn't believe me,
s$%^w you. If you're a liar, why should anyone be interested in your opinion?


107 posted on 09/29/2005 7:04:29 PM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: NormsRevenge

"What's a matter, can't take a joke?"

I thought I was making one


108 posted on 09/29/2005 7:05:34 PM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: republicofdavis; calcowgirl

Never mind, I saw them on a later post


109 posted on 09/29/2005 7:06:13 PM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: minus_273

Great news!


110 posted on 09/29/2005 7:10:02 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: republicofdavis

A word of advice, Try and not take things too personally, like a lot of those who operate here who do as they try and pass themselves off as conservatives while supporting things like more debt, bigger government, more legislation that "levels" the playing field, seeks to grant rights to small groups who claim they deserve them etc... and then attempt to disparage those who don't.


111 posted on 09/29/2005 7:21:05 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: republicofdavis

It would be helpful to know what those bills were about

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Go and read the bills yourself, geesh.


112 posted on 09/29/2005 7:22:36 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: republicofdavis

If you didn't believe me,
s$%^w you. If you're a liar, why should anyone be interested in your opinion?

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I don't even know you. :-o

If you want to impugn character, take some lessons, your spelling is atrocious btw.


113 posted on 09/29/2005 7:25:12 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: NormsRevenge

I regret my little outburst and I apologize.
Now a word of advice to you. Try not to assume that everyone is involved in some kind of conspiracy. I REALLY do think of my posts all by myself and they REALLY reflect my own opinions.

I am not trying to pass myself off as conservative. We could probably argue about 15 different definitions of conservative. I don't really like labels. But I assume we agree on more than we disagree. You and I have to join together. If we don't, it's liberal rule for sure.


114 posted on 09/29/2005 7:25:25 PM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: NormsRevenge

I read an article that said all the party hacks were trained in party talking points after the convention in Anaheim last week. They need a class in non-transparency next.


115 posted on 09/29/2005 7:27:14 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: NormsRevenge

Man, I was about to start being nice to you. Read Post 109


116 posted on 09/29/2005 7:27:50 PM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: NormsRevenge

OK, I just said something pleasant to you and now this?

NormsRevengeisms:

"What's a matter"

"get it all the time,,"

"property owner in this state and antion."

"I want to know why it is debt is so acceptable"

"It's been enlightening if not fun ,, for me , at least."

"any right ward movement"

"You seem to confuse conservatism with his tendencies and actions, imo, which again, lend a lot of lip service to the issues at hand and are far from resolved issues and will come back to bite us again and again, imo."

"Dang, you sure are smart one.. lol"

Now really, you're criticizing my spelling?


117 posted on 09/29/2005 7:33:51 PM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: newzjunkey
Look: domestic partners are not exclusively homosexual in this state and are the LAW in California.

A far more meaningful LAW, thanks to your hero, Arnold Schwarzenegger. Own it.

Don't like it? Fine. Get yourself initiative petitions and earn the votes to overturn domestic partnership by amending the state constitution.

I take it that means you support this law. Unless you post to the contrary, I'll continue to so remind you.

118 posted on 09/29/2005 7:39:25 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: republicofdavis

Apology not accepted and not needed.

anonymity provides one a way of both revealing beliefs and protecting the person... and making a lot of enemies in the process and some 'allies' as well.

If we can't agree to have some level of civility as part of the discourse , may as well just go into a private chatroom and have at it, btw, I left chatrooms years ago.

When I see the same items ticked off as the successes of 2 years in the reign of aRnie, I am not distracted from his failings as well nor am I turning an eye toward the ultimate goal.

Many say aRnie is our best and last chance to turn things around. I disagree and am very upfront about it.

It does not mean I am anti-GOP and don't support much of its platforms and principles .

It does mean that I take offense at those who trumpet the party line even as they take it away from what was a very robust party in california at one time.

It may never recover and hearing some of what the Gub says, I doubt he is here to preserve or return it to what it once was, a beacon of hope and a path to success both as an individual and a state, and as a party that walked the walk.

The last few years have seen it lapse in meeting its past standards and strive as hard as it used to measure up to past accomplishments.

Some feel it must be more inclusive of varied interest groups, loosen the platform, support abortion and gay rights etc.

Something changed along the way, altho I don;t think people have changed as much as media and the arts have tried to change them thru their methods of programming..

I don't know that I can point to a specific event, others may offer their opinions if they like, but the old base or much of it is saddened to see how easily so many are drawn away like moths to a flickering light or a person who prides and sells himself as marketer first and made his fame as a flickering image on a screen.

I could go on but then I'll be accused of not being tuned into reality, but remember reality is to each what you make of it or view it to be. The trick is to not let it make you something you are not, ie; supporters of goals or an agenda that is not consistent with what has worked before, but was attacked openly and done-in thru apathy and/or intrigues at all levels of politics, thru no fault of your own.


119 posted on 09/29/2005 7:43:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: republicofdavis

I could take back my post 119 for that list, but I won't. ;-)


NormsRevengeisms..I like that lol


120 posted on 09/29/2005 7:45:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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