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Breaking: Delay Indicted
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Posted on 09/28/2005 9:35:52 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay indicted on one count of criminal conspiracy by Texas grand jury, according to Travis County clerk's office.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
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To: TNPatriot

Yep, the trolls will be coming out of the woodwork today.

This is the biggest non-story ever. They got nothing on the Hammer.


601 posted on 09/28/2005 10:58:54 AM PDT by dfwgator (Flower Mound, TX)
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To: Mo1
The original article in no longer on the Houston Chronicle web page but here is a post from back in May.

Prosecutor in probe of DeLay PAC raises funds for other side
Houston Chronicle ^ | May 18, 2005 | MICHAEL HEDGES

Posted on 05/19/2005 1:47:29 AM CDT by YCTHouston

Prosecutor in probe of DeLay PAC raises funds for other side

Earle's speech on political corruption keys on the GOP leader, whom he likens to a bully

By MICHAEL HEDGES

Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle Washington Bureau

Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle, who denies partisan motives for his investigation of a political group founded by Republican leader Tom DeLay, was the featured speaker last week at a Democratic fund-raiser where he spoke directly about the congressman.

A newly formed Democratic political action committee, Texas Values in Action Coalition, hosted the May 12 event in Dallas to raise campaign money to take control of the state Legislature from the GOP, organizers said.

Earle, an elected Democrat, helped generate $102,000 for the organization.

In his remarks, Earle likened DeLay to a bully and spoke about political corruption and the investigation involving DeLay, the House majority leader from Sugar Land, according to a transcript supplied by Earle.

"This case is not just about Tom DeLay. If it isn't this Tom DeLay, it'll be another one, just like one bully replaces the one before," Earle said.

"This is a structural problem involving the combination of money and power," he added. "Money brings power and power corrupts."

The crowd of 80 to 100 Democratic activists responded by making donations that exceeded the event's fund-raising goal.

Reasons for speaking Earle and his staff of prosecutors have obtained indictments of three DeLay associates on charges that their political committee, the DeLay-led Texans for a Republican Majority, broke state campaign finance laws with the use of corporate donations on its way to helping establish Republican control in the state House.

Earle said Wednesday he knew the group that met in Dallas was raising money for Democrats, but that it was not his reason for speaking.

"I'd make the same speech to any group, Republican or Democrat, as long as the group was interested in honest, open government," Earle said in a telephone interview.

The prosecutor said he did not recall making other fund-raising speeches for anyone besides himself since he began investigating DeLay.

"We are investigating anybody who has committed a crime," he said when asked if DeLay is a target of the probe.

Political analysts said Earle's appearance left him open to questions about his motives.

"It may help Tom DeLay establish his case that Ronnie Earle's investigation is a partisan witch hunt," said Richard Murray, a political scientist with the University of Houston.

"It clearly fuels the perception that his investigation is politically motivated. It was probably not a wise move," said Larry Noble, a former Federal Election Commission lawyer who heads the watchdog group Center for Responsive Politics.

"It is somewhat less serious because he is a (Democratic) elected official," Noble said. "Otherwise, it would be a serious problem."

DeLay spokesman Dan Allen said Earle has wasted public money on an investigation that has amounted to a public relations campaign, "and now a fund-raising effort for Democrats by Mr. Earle."

'Pot-and-kettle' comparison

Allen said DeLay has not been contacted by Earle or any government investigator about anything related to the investigation.

Russell Langley, a co-founder of Texas Values in Action Coalition, said Earle was among those who inspired formation of the committee and that the prosecutor's participation in the campaign was proper.

"Throughout his career he has represented honesty and integrity in government. ... As long as he was raising money legally, we didn't see any problem with it," Langley said.

He added that he was not concerned about whether Earle's fund-raising appearance might compromise his stance as an independent investigator of potential crimes involving Republicans.

"We weren't worried about that, considering Tom DeLay's partisanship," he said. "That would really be a pot-and-kettle comparison."

Title of address

In his speech, titled "Public Safety and the Tone of Corruption in Government," Earle recounted some of his investigations of alleged public corruption by Democratic and Republican officeholders.

"He talked ... about improving ethics in government," said Marc Stanley, who hosted the party at his Dallas home. "There were a few questions about whether he was receiving pressure not to indict Tom DeLay. He answered that he lives out on a farm and he wasn't worried about pressure whatsoever."

Former House Speaker Jim Wright, a Fort Worth Democrat who was forced to resign from Congress in 1989 after the House Ethics Committee began investigating whether he improperly profited from a book publishing deal, was among those who attended the event. He is scheduled to speak at the committee's next fund-raiser in June.

DeLay has become a lightning rod for criticism by Democrats in Texas and elsewhere, especially because he led efforts to change the state's U.S. House district boundaries to the electoral advantage of Republicans.

Questions about his overseas travels, connections to lobbyists and political fund raising have become a rallying point for Democrats looking ahead to elections in 2006.

"I think Tom DeLay ought to go back to Houston where he can serve his jail sentence," Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, told Massachusetts Democrats on Saturday.

Dallas lawyer Ed Ishmael, another co-founder of the Democratic committee to which Earle spoke, is described on the group's Web site as "a leader in the Howard Dean presidential campaign" of 2004.

602 posted on 09/28/2005 10:58:57 AM PDT by idkfa
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To: Dog Gone

And from what Napolitano on FNC was saying, TX has some pretty interesting rules when it comes to seating grand juries. Don't get me wrong, if DeLay did this and it's proven in court, then throw the book at him. But if DeLay's the victim of a political witchhunt, then Earle ought to be brought up on charges or at least disbarred.


603 posted on 09/28/2005 10:59:03 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: holeinthedonut; West Coast Conservative
holeinthedonut Since Sep 2, 2005

This is awesome, now all you self-rightous, self serving repukes can prove your promise to hold steady for accountability. Defend the charges you chickenshits, don't attack the charger. Time to put up or shut up

No troll it is NOT the duty of the accused to prove his slime ball accuser wrong. It is the duty of the accuser to prove their accusations. SO YOU put up or shut up. Typical sleaze ball Leftist political tactics. Make up a completely wacko accusation then demand the accused PROVE the wacko charges fraudulent. Sorry that may work on DU for the political bigots on the Left, this is an INTELLEGENT forum. Such scumbag tactics will not work here.

604 posted on 09/28/2005 10:59:13 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't get stuck on stupid now, reporters)
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To: holeinthedonut; West Coast Conservative
holeinthedonut Since Sep 2, 2005

This is awesome, now all you self-rightous, self serving repukes can prove your promise to hold steady for accountability. Defend the charges you chickenshits, don't attack the charger. Time to put up or shut up

No troll it is NOT the duty of the accused to prove his slime ball accuser wrong. It is the duty of the accuser to prove their accusations. SO YOU put up or shut up. Typical sleaze ball Leftist political tactics. Make up a completely wacko accusation then demand the accused PROVE the wacko charges fraudulent. Sorry that may work on DU for the political bigots on the Left, this is an INTELLEGENT forum. Such scumbag tactics will not work here.

605 posted on 09/28/2005 10:59:19 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't get stuck on stupid now, reporters)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
"So whatever happens to Tom DeLay, it won't make a damn bit of difference in what the House does or what happens in the 2006 elections. This is about campaign finance, not abuse of power or position by DeLay. The Democrats cannot make an issue out of it except in DeLay's district."

Exactly!! People who are voting for their Senator in NC, Fla or elsewhere do not care about Delay or his politics. They care about their own self interests. The saying "all politics is local" has never been more true. As for the 2008 elections, with the national memory at about 2 weeks on any given issue, this won't even make it to a campaign commercial.

606 posted on 09/28/2005 10:59:40 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: West Coast Conservative

Whoooooooops!


607 posted on 09/28/2005 10:59:51 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hey, Cindy Sheehan, get over yourself, already!)
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To: andyandval

The bathhouse boys of the liberal/MSM/UN party, think they can win a war against us?

Laughable.


608 posted on 09/28/2005 10:59:56 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: for-q-clinton

Arrests and indictments aren't what hurts. It is the convictions that leave a mark. You can be arrested 100 times, and that really means nothing, but that one conviction is what buries you.


609 posted on 09/28/2005 11:00:21 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (All democrats are ENEMIES of the Republic!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I guess we can look on the bright side: at least he's successfully cut all the excess pork out of the federal budget.


610 posted on 09/28/2005 11:00:32 AM PDT by jpl
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To: Darnright
You'd think the Republicans would have this figured out by now, but it seems that, like Charlie Brown, they return over and over when Lucy holds the football for them to kick.

True, and it's also important for us to recognize this and act accordingly. Not all of us see this, shamefully.


If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
They're going fast!

611 posted on 09/28/2005 11:01:00 AM PDT by rdb3 (NON-conservative, American exceptionalist here.)
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To: AntiGuv

Dreier will be a good placeholder, he seems well liked by all. I'm sure Blunt discussed it, but he probably wants a fair shot at the position for a full term after the 2006 election.


612 posted on 09/28/2005 11:01:05 AM PDT by Pop Fly
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To: West Coast Conservative

And .. front and center on TV - Martin Frost - who sent his own staff member to STEAL DeLay's redistricting plan - right off DeLay's desk - and the guy was caught on video. Once again we have FOX News giving credibility to a criminal. Good job FOX.[/s]

However, since Frost lost his re-election bid in 2004 - I believe he's been out for Delay's hide ever since .. and with a equally vehement prosecutor in TX, this indictment was not unexpected.

It's just payback from all those TX democrats (you remember - the ones who ran off to other states rather than do their duty and vote) ..??

THE DEMOCRATS HAVE NO AGENDA FOR THE 2006 ELECTION - THEIR ONLY HOPE IS THE POLITICS OF PERSONAL DESTRUCTION AGAINST THE REPUBS. "Bring it on".


613 posted on 09/28/2005 11:01:12 AM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: Kennard

The link to the indictment is already posted at # 513.


614 posted on 09/28/2005 11:01:31 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: TravisBickle

Agreed. I think Blunt is sitting this one out because he believes it is a temporary thing...at least for now. Regardless, I do think Dreier will perform the duties as needed...I'm really not worried about his appointment.


615 posted on 09/28/2005 11:01:38 AM PDT by hardknocks
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To: Dog Gone

Drudge needs some sirens up.


616 posted on 09/28/2005 11:01:50 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: rdb3
If this were a moderated debate class, fine. The rules would be applied equitably. But this is politics! It's like a streetfight.

Yep. The other thing to note is how they make a wacko accusation and then demand the Right prove THEIR accusation false. We need to kick them in the teeth for this. The burden of proof rests on the accuser, not the accused.

617 posted on 09/28/2005 11:02:17 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't get stuck on stupid now, reporters)
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To: dfwgator
This is the biggest non-story ever. They got nothing on the Hammer.

I'm still gathering facts but so far it is my undestanding that Tom Delay has been indicted for conspiracy to order a ham sandwich.

618 posted on 09/28/2005 11:02:41 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Go Mike Pence, Operation Offset, and the Cleveland Indians)
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To: West Coast Conservative; xzins
Someone on Fox mentioned Delay might be replaced by David Dreier.

OMG.

619 posted on 09/28/2005 11:02:49 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray)
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To: politicalwit

They only see what the prosecutor presents to them. That is why they say that a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich. Generally there is nothing wrong with this, but when it is used for political purposes it steps over the line. In addition conspiracy charges are the easiest to indict, and the hardest to convict.


620 posted on 09/28/2005 11:03:54 AM PDT by Sthitch
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