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Bush seeks to federalize emergencies
Washington Times ^
| 9/27/05
| Bill Sammon
Posted on 09/27/2005 8:19:23 AM PDT by Crackingham
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To: bethtopaz; OldFriend; BradMorris64
Please accept my apologies. This topic makes me see red.
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posted on
09/27/2005 9:59:03 AM PDT
by
freeeee
("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
To: sydbas
The trouble with Bush wagering state's rights on the political cardtable is Dems can and will call the President's bluff, let him and the Republican majority pass it so the President would get the onus dumped back in his lap and IIRC, Bush owns no pen of veto. The Dems then will say, "See! we told you Repubs are no conservatives of Constitutional principles!"
I'd rather see the incompetent Blanco and Nagin fly into a frenzy and self-destruct than to forever lose states' authority to place assets where they're most needed. Blanco and Nagin's fall seems such a small sacrifice for Constitutional principle.
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posted on
09/27/2005 10:23:25 AM PDT
by
azhenfud
(He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
To: freeeee
Apology accepted. I understand your concern, also. It all comes back to we the people. We have to continually make our voices heard to the right people - that being our representatives. I live in California, so guess who mine are? Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi. Talk about discouraging. I can't even stand to watch those witches on t.v. Have to turn it off every-time they're on.
I can't even imagine the weight on Bush's shoulders right now. And I still can't understand why the Fed is at fault with Katrina. It seems to me that the MSM just says something over and over again until it is just assumed to be true. So frustrating. If he was slow, then why wasn't MS and AK whining and crying? And FL? It's so obvious to most everyone that the local officials totally S*^Wed up in this situation.
I think we're all a little frustrated right now as we see the continuous barrage of criticism thrown at Bush and for things the DEMS and Clinton did they get a total pass.
Thanks again!
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posted on
09/27/2005 10:24:13 AM PDT
by
bethtopaz
(Dem stars spend more and more time jumping thru smaller hoops of the kooky left fringe. M.Steyn)
To: Crackingham
everyone just keep telling yourselves "he is a conservative, he is a conservative"....
64
posted on
09/27/2005 10:25:27 AM PDT
by
N3WBI3
(If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
To: WilliamWallace1999
No, this is him begging for forgiveness for not acting the way the MSM wanted him to act. He needs to be touting federalism and maybe talking about better planning *with* states if they desire it, not yet another federal power grab and bureaucratic nightmare by this president..
At best the MSM is going to say too little too late, and at worst they will say this proves Bush was not ready for a natural disaster..
65
posted on
09/27/2005 10:29:05 AM PDT
by
N3WBI3
(If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
To: freeeee
Enjoying Brown setting the record straight!
People elect losers and they pay a terrible price.
NJ is a prime example. McGreevy tried to put his gay lover as liaison to homeland security.
The man was not a citizen and couldn't even get security clearance.
Not a word from anyone in the know.....and my guess is that another dem crony will buy the governor's seat and we'll be in as much jeopardy as ever.
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posted on
09/27/2005 10:33:29 AM PDT
by
OldFriend
(One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
To: sydbas
"Essentially he is saying that OK I took a big hit for Katrina so I am going to make sure that next time I don't have to deal with the likes of Nagin and Blanco."
Essentially he is saying that OK I took a big hit for Katrina so I am going to expand the powers of the federal government to fix a press problem..
There I fixed it for you..
67
posted on
09/27/2005 10:33:30 AM PDT
by
N3WBI3
(If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
To: azhenfud
You make a good point and as I stated I don't think it's a good idea to turn state's rights and responsibilites over to the Feds. I do think that President Bush gambled on CFR thinking first it wouldn't make it to his desk and then that SCOTUS would strike it down but he was wrong on both counts.
How this all plays out we'll just have to see but I do repeat my feeling that because of all of the crap he's taken I don't blame President Bush for trying this. Remember the dems basically distrust the military so I'm not sure they would take the chance of calling President Bush's bluff on this one.
68
posted on
09/27/2005 10:35:20 AM PDT
by
sydbas
To: Crackingham
69
posted on
09/27/2005 10:36:10 AM PDT
by
SAMS
(Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
To: azhenfud
Look around. That's gone too. Watching Faux News this morning (don't ask me why) and the three talking heads were literally giddy for us to all call our respective state attorney generals and report price gouging. So much for the free market, so much for posse comitatus. But remember keep voting Republican because...why is it I should keep voting Republican again? I keep forgetting..
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posted on
09/27/2005 10:37:41 AM PDT
by
billbears
(Deo Vindice)
To: billbears
But.... we won back the Senate....< said while sitting singed in an ash heap >
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posted on
09/27/2005 10:45:09 AM PDT
by
azhenfud
(He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
To: billbears
Top five reasons Conservatives should abandon their principles and blindly vote republican
5) What are you going to throw your vote away?
4) Those pictures of 'W' clearing brush really bring back memories of Reagan even if his policies don't
3) Tax cuts, after all its not like Conservatives should be more concerned with the expansion of the federal government than the tax rate right?
2) Because some day when the Republicans have a super majority *THEN* they will start to push a conservative agenda
1) Of course, because Democrats are worse, so vote for the lesser of two evils..
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posted on
09/27/2005 10:48:03 AM PDT
by
N3WBI3
(If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
To: Crackingham
Bad idea, the ACLU is right on with this one...Federal 'troops' etc.. should only come at the request of a governor.
73
posted on
09/27/2005 10:58:29 AM PDT
by
traviskicks
(http://www.neoperspectives.com/secondaryproblemsofsocialism.htm)
To: Crackingham
Bad idea, and not at all how our federal system is supposed to work.
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posted on
09/27/2005 11:00:41 AM PDT
by
B Knotts
To: sydbas
"
Remember the dems basically distrust the military so I'm not sure they would take the chance of calling President Bush's bluff on this one."
Maybe so, maybe not. If I were calling the dem's shots, I'd let the President have his Military and afterwards play up the federal militarization of the states just to secure wavering dems who "basically distrust the military" and teetering Conservatives who feel the President has again abandoned the Constitutional limitations of the federal government. Two groups then would've been crossed, those who distrust the military AND those who fear federal powers have again expanded beyond a safe boundary - not a good ploy, IMO.
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posted on
09/27/2005 11:04:10 AM PDT
by
azhenfud
(He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
To: N3WBI3
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posted on
09/27/2005 12:05:15 PM PDT
by
afnamvet
To: bethtopaz
I'm thinking it's a huge poker play by President Bush.That's the same type nonsense that gave us Campaign Finance Reform, we all knew the SC would knock it down. Now we hear this won't pass congress. Yea, right.
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posted on
09/27/2005 12:13:49 PM PDT
by
krshnbrn
To: N3WBI3
Essentially he is saying that OK I took a big hit for Katrina so I am going to expand the powers of the federal government to fix a press problem. Essentially he is saying that OK I took a big hit for Katrina so I am going to expand the powers of the federal government to make up for my lack of being able to get the truth out over biased media.
Needed just a bit more tweaking. Let's face it, if Bush were the Great Communicator this would not have happened. Heck even if he was the "Mediocre Communicator" it wouldn't have happened.
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posted on
09/27/2005 12:28:43 PM PDT
by
for-q-clinton
(If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
To: Crackingham; All
As conservative we Should be very afraid about a plan like this. We all have the government of LA to thank for federal Government having a shot at this kind of power. Come to think of it maybe we should have just hung on to KING George in the first place. Why fight and die for freedom only to give it all back in the end so that we can FEEL a little sense of security.
Maybe just Maybe...We should make sure the plans of our state and local governments are in order instead.
We all know they have the capability to do a far better job then the federal government can do on there best day. Given this kind of power that will all be out the window. You will have signed sealed and delivered you fate over to them.
You will have NO CONTROL. Do as you are told or else!!!!
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posted on
09/27/2005 1:00:07 PM PDT
by
Revel
To: MNJohnnie
"Damned if he do, damned if he don't. What a lousy Catch 22 the Pres is stuck in."
The is so much more importaint than the presidents problems.
Just because the MSM has created this perception is not a reason to give up the control of your state.
In a way you would really be surrending to the MSM among others if you allowed this.
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posted on
09/27/2005 1:02:33 PM PDT
by
Revel
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