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1 posted on 09/26/2005 4:05:54 PM PDT by tjbravo
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To: tjbravo

Police state in the making. In the world of bad mistakes ... this would set a record


2 posted on 09/26/2005 4:07:08 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Proud member of the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 1972-1973)
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To: tjbravo

Now refresh my memory. Isn't there some sort of document that enumerates the powers granted to government by the people? And If I'm not mistaken, doesn't that document leave this sort of thing in the hands of the individual states? What was that thing called, again?


4 posted on 09/26/2005 4:11:10 PM PDT by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: tjbravo
In a sense, it bothers me too, on levels I can't quite put into words at the moment. But when I think of Nagin telling the cops to go to Vegas on the taxpayer's dime during a crisis....
6 posted on 09/26/2005 4:13:09 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. ©)
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To: tjbravo
However, the bill does have flaws. Certain provisions present serious constitutional concerns....I believe individual freedom to participate in elections should be expanded, not diminished; and when individual freedoms are restricted, questions arise under the First Amendment. I also have reservations about the constitutionality of the broad ban on issue advertising, which restrains the speech of a wide variety of groups on issues of public import in the months closest to an election. I expect that the courts will resolve these legitimate legal questions as appropriate under the law.

GEORGE W. BUSH THE WHITE HOUSE, March 27, 2002.

Here we go again.

7 posted on 09/26/2005 4:13:32 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: tjbravo

The first step down that VERY slippery slope....


8 posted on 09/26/2005 4:14:57 PM PDT by roaddog727 (P=3/8 A. or, P=plenty...............)
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To: tjbravo

I agree. Texas proves that you don't need to militarize the situation. Gaurd troops under governors control and assets loaned to the guard or requersted by the state are sufficient.

Just be cause a corrupt state government in LA was screwed up does not mean we need to screw up the rest of the country.

The only thing texas could have done better was to open the other lanes of the freeway sooner (20 hours sooner), and federalizing the situation would not have helped that.


12 posted on 09/26/2005 4:22:34 PM PDT by konaice
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To: tjbravo

Well, if you assumed that all state and local govs were as incompetent as what we saw in Louisiana, then yes, it was "clear" that something had to be done.


Thanks to Texas, it is no longer clear - the MSM was desperately hoping we'd fail in our mission to get everyone out. We didn't, and thanks to their wishful thinking and continuous coverage, we've just shown the world that incompetence isn't a defining characteristic of all state and local governments.

We accomplished the impossible in 72 hours with little to no Federal help. The onus is back on Louisiana to explain themselves. A quick glance at TXCN shows that Louisiana is dropping the ball again - they're apparently keeping aid out of some parish "to get people to leave".

The idea of weakening posse commitatus may just end up getting tossed onto the "bad idea" pile.


13 posted on 09/26/2005 4:23:56 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: tjbravo

Not just NO, but HELL NO!!!


14 posted on 09/26/2005 4:27:12 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: SilentServiceCPOWife

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20 posted on 09/26/2005 4:37:35 PM PDT by SilentServiceCPOWife
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To: tjbravo

Maybe we should put the military in charge of protecting our borders while we're at it. Congress has demonstrated that they sure as hell aren't up to the task.


28 posted on 09/26/2005 4:45:21 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: tjbravo

This is a very bad idea that threatens the federal nature of out GoV


32 posted on 09/26/2005 4:57:18 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: tjbravo

As the civilian authorities(Federal, State and Local) increasingly prove their incompetency there will come a time in the future when some military leader will say "Who needs you!"


44 posted on 09/26/2005 5:44:46 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Travis McGee

yoo-hoo


46 posted on 09/26/2005 6:11:52 PM PDT by King Prout (19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
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To: tjbravo
I resist the idea of Federal troops blowing into town and taking over without the consent of local authorities.

That said, how many mouths does the Federal Gov't feed who ARE NOT in the armed forces? Can looting be considered a federal crime, such that the FBI can "investigate"?

Can mitigating a flood fall into the purview of the Bureau of Land Management?

Can an evacuated city be considered a "Wilderness Area", subject to Federal Parks authority?

Can IRS agents fill sandbags?

47 posted on 09/26/2005 6:19:25 PM PDT by ZOOKER ( <== I'm with Stupid...)
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To: tjbravo
Terrific,
Now I might have to put lincoln and Bush 2 in the same bucket I have reserved for presidents who completely redefine, to their detriment, both the constitution and the states that signed up to it.

Bucket used to hold only one candidate.

(C'mon George, we already have mexico and that little border thing to disagree over, don't make it SO much worse.)

50 posted on 09/26/2005 6:28:18 PM PDT by norton
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Bush: It is now clear that a challenge on this scale requires greater federal authority and a broader role for the armed forces--the institution of our government most capable of massive logistical operations on a moment's notice.

Healy: The Posse Comitatus Act is no barrier to federal troops providing logistical support during natural disasters.

Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita called Posse Comitatus a "very archaic" law that hampers the president's ability to respond to a crisis.

With nothing more to go on, isn't the problem with Di Rita's comment and not Bush's?

54 posted on 09/26/2005 6:35:37 PM PDT by decimon
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To: tjbravo

This administration is laying the foundation for tyranny faster than Clinton.


60 posted on 09/28/2005 12:27:23 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: tjbravo
[ Domestic Militarization: A Disaster in the Making ]

Aw.. President Hillabeast Clinton with Bubba as chief consort with the entire Federal and State military as her "goons"..

Makes the mind race, dont it.. < / Barney Fife dream >

63 posted on 09/28/2005 12:39:58 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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