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Karl Rove to POTUS: Put Gonzales on the Court
ConfirmThem.com ^ | September 26, 2005 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 09/26/2005 11:20:16 AM PDT by Oliver Optic

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To: COEXERJ145
It isn't going to be Gonzales but on the left we have the media pushing for him and on the right we have people suggesting it will be him in order to try and prevent it.

Why would those on the right suggest Gonzales was being reconsidered when the buzz that he would be had all but disappeared?

If those connected to the White House are spreading false rumors, it is to make another stealth nominee look good in comparison to Gonzales. And, there are conservatives dumb enough to celebrate yet another questionable nominee after being satisfied Gonzales wasn't the nominee.

81 posted on 09/26/2005 1:46:12 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Rutles4Ever

If it is a trial balloon, I can see only one point in it -- to soften up conservatives into accepting yet another maybe to the court rather than verifiable conservative like Scalia.


82 posted on 09/26/2005 1:48:45 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Rutles4Ever

If it is a trial balloon, I can see only one point in it -- to soften up conservatives into accepting yet another maybe to the court rather than verifiable conservative like Scalia.


83 posted on 09/26/2005 1:50:19 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Oliver Optic
Usually cited are his rulings on parental notification for minor abortions while on the Texas Supreme Court and his position on affirmative action while Attorney General.

Okay, and thanks. The first one doesn't bother me as much. As a Texas Supreme Court justice, he is bound by United States Supreme Court precedent. But the second one does bother me. I now remember him (as White House counsel) supporting the State of Michigan in the two big affirmative action cases decided in 2003 or 2004. Not good. That would make him a non-Scalia and a non-Thomas. Both of them dissented from the key rulings in these two cases to the effect that racial quotas are sometimes okay.

84 posted on 09/26/2005 2:08:36 PM PDT by kesg
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"A Whiter Shade of Pale": Sense and Nonsense --
The Pursuit of Perfection in Law and Politics
Speech of Janice Rogers Brown
April 20, 2000

Writing 50 years ago, F.A. Hayek warned us that a centrally planned economy is "The Road to Serfdom." He was right, of course; but the intervening years have shown us that there are many other roads to serfdom. In fact, it now appears that human nature is so constituted that, as in the days of empire all roads led to Rome; in the heyday of liberal democracy, all roads lead to slavery. And we no longer find slavery abhorrent. We embrace it. We demand more. Big government is not just the opiate of the masses. It is the opiate. The drug of choice for multinational corporations and single moms; for regulated industries and rugged Midwestern farmers and militant senior citizens.

It is my thesis today that the sheer tenacity of the collectivist impulse -- whether you call it socialism or communism or altruism -- has changed not only the meaning of our words, but the meaning of the Constitution, and the character of our people.

Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase. Aaron Wildavsky gives a credible account of this dynamic. Wildavsky notes that the Madisonian world has gone "topsy turvy" as factions, defined as groups "activated by some common interest adverse to the rights of other citizens or to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community," have been transformed into sectors of public policy. "Indeed," says Wildavsky, "government now pays citizens to organize, lawyers to sue, and politicians to run for office. Soon enough, if current trends continue, government will become self-contained, generating (apparently spontaneously) the forces to which it responds." That explains how, but not why. And certainly not why we are so comfortable with that result. ...

Of course, given the vision of the American Revolution just outlined, you might think none of that can happen here. I have news for you. It already has. The revolution is over. What started in the 1920's; became manifest in 1937; was consolidated in the 1960's; is now either building to a crescendo or getting ready to end with a whimper.

At this moment, it seems likely leviathan will continue to lumber along, picking up ballast and momentum, crushing everything in its path. Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates, and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible.

But what if anything does this have to do with law? Quite a lot, I think. ...

http://www.constitution.org/col/jrb/00420_jrb_fedsoc.htm


85 posted on 09/26/2005 2:18:24 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Oliver Optic

We need to let our senators know how we feel about Gonzales the Gun-Grabber!


86 posted on 09/26/2005 2:26:49 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: Oliver Optic
Senator Kyl was asked about Gonzales on Monday morning's Fox & Friends and replied that he thought that the President was happy with Gonzales where he is now. Of course Kyl probably doesn't know who the pick will be.
87 posted on 09/26/2005 2:36:44 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Oliver Optic

Yeah.
Just like Edith was the front-runner two hours before Roberts was announced.


88 posted on 09/26/2005 4:20:01 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Cboldt
Speech, "A Whiter Shade of Pale", deleted.

YOWZA!

Full Disclosure: Two Thumbs Up!

89 posted on 09/26/2005 5:09:24 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Oliver Optic

If he does this I think he will lose the party and I would suspicion at that point that Gonzalez had something on him.

But then I am not certain that the intention is for a Republican to win the next go round.


90 posted on 09/26/2005 6:48:21 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: Rutles4Ever
I'm going against conventional wisdom and guessing it's going to be J. Michael Luttig.

..interesting choice. NOT :D...it seems GW, will always strives to "upset" his opponents/hangers-ons.

He (GW) may be going for true "diversity"..an real Originalist.

91 posted on 09/26/2005 7:03:05 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: Oliver Optic
I don't believe this gibberish for one minute.

It would be beyond insane, for President Bush to nominate Gonzales for SCOTUS, for many different reasons; not the least of which is that he'd then have to nominate yet another AG, to be passed on. And Rove is far to clever to not know what I know.

92 posted on 09/26/2005 7:07:57 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: WOSG
The people who keep spreading the rumor, that it's gonna be Gonzales ARE nuts. President Bush and Karl Rove aren't nuts; ain't gonna happen!

When nobody knew who would be nominated to fill O'Connor's seat and FR was alive and burning with the moronic :" IT'S TO BE GONZALES AND PUSH STINKS" garbage, I said that it wouldn't be Gonzales. I was right then and I'm right right now.

93 posted on 09/26/2005 7:12:04 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: WOSG
The people who keep spreading the rumor, that it's gonna be Gonzales ARE nuts. President Bush and Karl Rove aren't nuts; ain't gonna happen!

When nobody knew who would be nominated to fill O'Connor's seat and FR was alive and burning with the moronic :" IT'S TO BE GONZALES AND BUSH STINKS" garbage, I said that it wouldn't be Gonzales. I was right then and I'm right right now.

94 posted on 09/26/2005 7:12:24 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: libs_kma
If it's JRB I'll be happy.

LOL!

I saw the "JRB" and immediately thought of Judge Roy Bean.

95 posted on 09/26/2005 7:14:51 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: Cboldt
Speech of Janice Rogers Brown, April 20, 2000....WOW! PUT HER UP! :D
96 posted on 09/26/2005 7:15:16 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: ZULU

Calm down, for crying out loud and stop and think, for a change.


97 posted on 09/26/2005 7:16:33 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Rutles4Ever
It wasn't EVER a "trial baloon"! It was aqnd still is just people, who don't know anything, shooting their mouths off.
98 posted on 09/26/2005 7:18:17 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: WOSG
yet they are grasping for second-tier 'chums' like Gonzalez, t

Not quite accurate. Someone alleges that his super double secret White House source claims they are grasping for, etc.

In other words, it's just a rumor.

99 posted on 09/26/2005 7:24:04 PM PDT by alnick
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To: kesg; Evacuee

Correct, by implication, kesg...there is no evidence that Gonzalez is pro-choice.


100 posted on 09/26/2005 7:31:01 PM PDT by txrangerette
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