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Conservative coalition tipped to win Polish general election (LIVE THREAD)
Todayonline ^ | 9/25/05 | NA

Posted on 09/25/2005 12:31:17 PM PDT by Redmen4ever

Two centre-right parties were expected to sweep to victory in Poland's general election, pushing from power ex-communists stained

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatives; elections; livethread; poland; polishelection; right
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To: Redmen4ever

Last evening I cried seeing the suffering of the Poles in a History channel show Betryal:Battle for Warsaw and the smugness on the faces of Roosevelt and Churchill and how they betrayed the Poles. I also felt ashamed at being an American. And yet now, they have been our best allies (friends) now in the war on terror. Bravo to them. I am very proud to be a second generation Pole. I am very proud of their bravery, their strength and determination under such horrible, indescribable conditions. I could write a book but will end by saying, "Stol Lat" and God be with you all in your new government.


81 posted on 09/26/2005 6:31:26 PM PDT by stolat (stolat)
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To: Barte45
"Wir wollen eine große Nation sein"

Looks like Kaczynski is going to conflict with Germany, Russia and China in order to confirm Poland as great country. Wise politics. :))

PS The dresses at post #14 are definitely Ukrainian.
82 posted on 09/27/2005 6:03:43 AM PDT by eks41
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To: lizol

I love it! As one who is married to a man with a VERY Polish name (no one can EVER pronounce it) - I think that picture is great!


83 posted on 09/27/2005 7:42:27 AM PDT by AUJenn
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To: Redmen4ever
Za wolnoœæ Wasz¹ i Nasz¹

("For your freedom and ours").

God Bless Poland!

84 posted on 09/27/2005 8:22:31 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't get stuck on stupid now, reporters)
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To: golas1964
OK, so when do we start moving our bases out of Germany and into Poland?

and rename NATO the Warsaw Pact ;-)
85 posted on 09/27/2005 8:23:13 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: eks41
Jaroslaw Kaczynski ist Befürworter der Todesstrafe Source: the link you provided.

This is pure nonsense as long as we are in UE and Kaczynski knows that.

86 posted on 09/27/2005 12:10:24 PM PDT by kaiser80
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To: freedumb2003
From what I gather, these jokes were the result of them being run over so quickly by the Blitzkreig.

What do you mean by so quickly?

As fas as I can make it out, we have held for aproximatelly one month against both Nazis and Soviets. Look at France. Eee ok bad example.

87 posted on 09/27/2005 12:28:12 PM PDT by kaiser80
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To: kaiser80
As fas as I can make it out, we have held for aproximatelly one month against both Nazis and Soviets.

I stand corrected. Remember, time was relative back then. I have to assume that by the time word got to the US, uit appeared Poland had fallen.

You (I assume you are one) Poles are made of stern stuff. The USA is fortunate to have Poland uas an ally.

88 posted on 09/27/2005 12:33:00 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Durka Durka Durka. Muhammed Jihad Durka.)
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To: kaiser80

15,000 Nazi soldiers were killed by Polish troops during Case White. That was in one month alone. Imagine if that had been the toll in Iraq.


89 posted on 09/27/2005 12:36:28 PM PDT by dfwgator (Flower Mound, TX)
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To: California Patriot
I hope you're right, but is the major winning party really committed to classical-liberal/small government economics? By and large, the Catholic church is against this sort of thing, is it not?

Some Catholic US Republicans, like George Weigel, have been arguing/propagandizing for classical liberal-style economics in Poland ever since the Soviets left, if not before. I don't know how influential they've been.

I'm more interested in whether the new coalition will change its attitude towards the Iraqi occupation. Remember, the ex-commies were the ruling party at the time Poland agreed to support us in Iraq.

90 posted on 09/27/2005 11:16:00 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Be not Afraid. "Perfect love drives out fear.")
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To: Redmen4ever

This is good news. Kudos to our Polish friends for their conservative choices.


91 posted on 09/27/2005 11:18:15 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: anonymoussierra

"I think one day some will thank us for showing others our great country and what we believe."

Our children and those yet unborn will stand on the shoulders of patriots. Be strong great country - Poland!


92 posted on 09/28/2005 9:39:34 AM PDT by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: Lukasz; lizol; twinself; A. Pole

For my polish siters and brothers. This is beginning to be kogiel mogiel. Eto we have to wait and see what happens. I have to switch to polish.

Zaczyna mnie to deko wkurzac. Kaczynski zaczyna sie chowac. Ja i tak bede glosowala na Tuska, ale bylam swiecie przekonana ze wspomorzenie byloby na Rokite. Nie glosowam na prawice zeby sie klocilii jak wroble, ale zeby wykorzystac sytuacje, jestem deko wkurzona ze SLD otrzymalo prawie 12% 55 mandatow. Z punktu politycznego to wszyskto jest ulozone, tyle ze zaczynaja sie przepychanki, ktore sa nieuktalizowane wsensie faktu iz albo nastapia zmiany, albo bedziemy mieli doczynienia z facetami rzadzacymi z tylu a nie z przodu. Kaczynski musi sie wkoncu zdecydowac a nie chowac glowe wpiasek jak strus. Kto kolwiek wygra czy Kaczynski czy Tusk to swietnie, ale w koncu do jasnej choinki nie glosowalismy na prawice zeby prosze was z tylu szly teksty. Ktos chcialby to przetlumaczyc na anglika, jezeli wogle byloby to mozliwe:}}}}}}}}}


93 posted on 09/28/2005 9:49:46 AM PDT by anonymoussierra ("The wisdom of the wise and the experience of ages-Isaac Disraeli -Dalet - Hei - Vav")
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To: eks41

"PS The dresses at post #14 are definitely Ukrainian."

"Then you don’t know well my country."


94 posted on 09/28/2005 9:59:06 AM PDT by anonymoussierra ("The wisdom of the wise and the experience of ages-Isaac Disraeli -Dalet - Hei - Vav")
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To: lizol

Kurcze,dopiero teraz tak wiesz sobie spokojnie usiadlam i czytam to wszystko i patrze sie na pierwsze zdjecie i cos mi sie skojarzylo, kurde ale palnelam gdzies mi bierki uciekly:}}}}


95 posted on 09/28/2005 10:13:47 AM PDT by anonymoussierra ("The wisdom of the wise and the experience of ages-Isaac Disraeli -Dalet - Hei - Vav")
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To: Dumb_Ox

No it won't. All major Polish parties supported the war in Iraq.


96 posted on 09/28/2005 10:52:59 AM PDT by Tarkin (Janice Rogers Brown to the SCOTUS)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"We seem to have a growing Freeper community in Poland.":}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}


97 posted on 09/28/2005 12:54:31 PM PDT by anonymoussierra ("The wisdom of the wise and the experience of ages-Isaac Disraeli -Dalet - Hei - Vav")
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To: Dumb_Ox

About the new Polish govt's international role, we shall see. I suppose there is cause for optimism.

About the Catholic church, there is much to be said for it. And yes, some Catholic thinkers have the appropriate respect for classical-liberal economics. But by and large, the Church is unlikely to change on this issue anytime soon. I'm not necessarily talking about the papal-level teaching, but about the overall message the Church conveys through the priesthood and educational institutions. It is not a knock on the Church to say that it has a collectivistic aspect to it, and that this influences its view of certain political issues.


98 posted on 09/30/2005 11:57:56 PM PDT by California Patriot
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To: 05 Mustang GT Rocks

"If only the Germans, the French and the Spanish had half of your brains and courage. If only..."

How many Germans, French, and Spanish does it take to screw in a lightbulb? Hard to say yet, as the Frenchman is having one shocking experience.


99 posted on 10/02/2005 8:42:04 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("They'll have to basically rip my fingers from this porch." com/focus/bloggers/1483977/posts)
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To: California Patriot

I tend to think that classical liberalism has a hideous Cartesian anthropology behind it, so I'm not terribly concerned about it being criticized. I just hope the criticisms are good ones, and not the "let's repeat the op-ed I read in the paper today" kind.


100 posted on 10/02/2005 8:26:35 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Be not Afraid. "Perfect love drives out fear.")
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