Posted on 09/23/2005 12:38:17 PM PDT by Help!
I'm a woman and agree with you.
There is one on where dad is home baby sitting and cleaning up with a leaf blower and the kids say"That's not the way Mom does it".
Drives me nuts too!
Hmmmm
Never mind! (severely biting my tongue)
"Let me get this right. No manager is allowed to lose his cool even ONE time? No matter the circumstances? And if he does, he's gone, out of a job? Bosses get pissed, and raise their voices. It happens. So do fathers and mothers."
Jumping in here. I'll give you the yelling. Who cares. But no one should have to put up with a boss who goes at them as if to attack them.
This guy shouldn't be disciplined for sexual harassment since he appears to treat all his employees, male and female, like sh*t, but I can't imagine his anger problems contribute to workplace productivity.
"It's not about people's feelings or self esteem. It's about effective management. It's difficult to have any kind of respect for an adult who didn't outgrow temper tantrums."
Didn't say that. Didn't say that at all. You have some sort of baseline behavior standard in mind, that says that anyone someone raises his voice, he perforce has not outgrown "temper tantrums."
That's so ridiculous and off the mark I don't know where to begin. Just glad I don't work for you. And you should be real glad you don't work for me.
Safe travel.
That maybe true, but I get the impression that this guy acted this way all the time.
I have not yet discussed "abusive bosses." As for splitting hairs, that's what oversensitive types come up with when someone questions their argument. Let's call it a day.
I wish you safe travel.
I just hope that, as a male, I'm never considered one, through historical translation, who would eat a "bad" apple. ; )
Tehee... You know what? After joking about our leaf blower and threatening, I actually tried it once and it wasn't half bad!
Cleans the dust off the ceiling fans and vents just great! ;-)
Take happiness in it!
It's better than the silent treatment.
As a male, we have a lot to fear, if the feminist 4 th Reich were to fully come to pass.
Two words.....
Living, breathing.
We will be seeing a lot of those two words in coming times.
Cool! When can I claim "nagging" is actually sexual harassment?
The decision is itself discriminatory. It should read "reasonable person".
A glare and a menacing whisper works more effectively and scares more people.
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"Does this mean that when women PMS men can sue for discrimination?"
That was my first thought...then it follows, what if the person you work with is bi-polar or some other mental malady which causes an out burst. The Co. can't fire them under the disabilities act and they can't make them take medication...they'll just pay pay pay.
Ain't going to happen.
Robert Reich was a short term experience. ; )
If it is a way of expressing a negative emotion, yes, it is a loss of self control. Cheers are also yelled, so something like that wouldn't be losing control. If it's done to be heard over a crowd, with no kind of emotion behind it, again, it's not a loss of self control. Any kind of "look at what you made me do" denotes handing off all responsibility for your actions to someone else.
Maybe it's sometimes a way to assert, maintain or take control.
It may work in the short term, but it is not a good long term strategy.
Statements like yelling represents a loss of control bother me because they suggest a recommended baseline for behavior that we're all expected to hew to. Well, screw that.
Act anyway you like, but if you want people to knock themselves out for you, it takes hard work from you.
"I guess women with PMS are now a protected class."
If this case was just about female employees not being able to tolerate a gruff boss, you'd have a point, but it's not that simple. This guy was shaking his fists at people and even went at someone. He's a tool and his superiors should've dealt with his behavior before it ever went to the lawsuit stage.
I've seen cases where women got bent out of shape over nothing. I've also seen cases where women were being genuinely harassed - pressured for sex, etc. - got no assistance and were forced to quit. Not every harassment case is legit, but they're not all bogus either.
This one, IMO, isn't a case of sexual harassment. It's a case of plain old harassment.
Cleans the dust off the ceiling fans and vents just great! ;-)
ROTFLMAO!
You know what? I found it's a great tool to make my Husky shake his tail after a bath also!
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