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Legislation would require pet to be included in evacuations
cnn.com ^ | 9/22/05 | AP

Posted on 09/22/2005 1:03:57 PM PDT by cwiz24

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Federal disaster grants to state and local governments should be conditioned on how they accommodate pets in their evacuation plans, say lawmakers disturbed that some Hurricane Katrina victims refused to leave home because they couldn't take their animals with them.

"I cannot help but wonder how many more people could have been saved had they been able to take their pets," Rep. Tom Lantos, D-California, said Thursday.

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To: cwiz24

My wife and I had this discussion after Hurricane Katrina. 9mm between the dogs' eyes and we're out of there. Can't let the animals suffer and I don't want them going feral either.


22 posted on 09/22/2005 1:19:14 PM PDT by tomswiftjr (Remember Pearl Harbor)
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To: konaice

I wouldn't leave my guinea pigs behind. I don't care what anyone says.


23 posted on 09/22/2005 1:19:44 PM PDT by Huck (Are there any fiscal conservatives left?)
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To: cwiz24

More laws and regulations. Wonderful.


24 posted on 09/22/2005 1:19:50 PM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: bboop

Thousands and thousands of people refused to leave their homes because they had to leave their pets behind. Perhaps the pets should not be allowed on the evacuation buses with people who might be hurt or allergic, but perhaps at the evacuee pick-up stations, there can be vehicles provided specifically for people's pets (provided the pet is properly restrained). Sure, the people would be separated from their pets for a little while, but it's better than leaving them behind or the person staying behind himself and potentially dying.


25 posted on 09/22/2005 1:20:25 PM PDT by cwiz24 (I worked very hard on this tagline.)
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To: cwiz24

utter BS legislation.

Most areas with an actual plan have shettlers SPECIFIC for those with pets.

Nagin and Blanco dropped the ball and they are CYA to say it was not their fault.

FL has pet provisions, TX has pet provisions.

LA incompetence did not acomodate pets. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FEDS.

(the democrats want to blame Bush for killing fido. hmmm [s]JOHN ROBERTS PERSONALLY KILLED PETS IN NEW ORLEANS WITH GUNS PROVIDED BY THE NRA! [/s] GASP! )


26 posted on 09/22/2005 1:20:30 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: republican4ever
I guess you cannot force anyone to survive!

Says it all.

27 posted on 09/22/2005 1:21:36 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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To: cwiz24
Are all you people nuts? I have owned dogs all my life and consider them "a part of the family", but I would not want money, time or space wasted on an animal aka pet in an evacuation.

If someone is such a nut job as not to leave a burning house because Snowball the cat is in there, do you expect to send a fireman or waste the time to retrieve the cat. The same would hold true for an evacuation.

How about people with allergies??? Will they need to be put on a seperate buses because great aunt Milly has boots the dog with her. Will FEMA not get to waste taxpayer money buying all assortments of animal cages to transport the pets.

People in this country really have lost all perspective on the value of human life, and this is another example.
28 posted on 09/22/2005 1:22:01 PM PDT by BobCNY
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To: Huck
I wouldn't leave my guinea pigs behind. I don't care what anyone says.

Yup, Cute little buggers.

But imagine 2700 of them stinking up the Astrodome in and out of cages. Turds everywhere. Food for the next guy's dobermans... It gets crazy in short order.

29 posted on 09/22/2005 1:24:23 PM PDT by konaice
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To: konaice

I'm not saying it's an easy fix. I'm just saying it's worth trying to solve. I really can't imagine leaving my little pigs behind. I love those little critters.


30 posted on 09/22/2005 1:25:52 PM PDT by Huck (Are there any fiscal conservatives left?)
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To: BobCNY

BobCNY THANK YOU. HellO. I thot I was on the PETA site.


31 posted on 09/22/2005 1:26:51 PM PDT by bboop (Facts are your friend.)
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To: BobCNY

BobCNY THANK YOU. HellO. I thot I was on the PETA site.


32 posted on 09/22/2005 1:26:53 PM PDT by bboop (Facts are your friend.)
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To: konaice

Well, in my particular case, my furkids are small, can stay in a crate, I have the means to evacuate (and I certainly would do it as soon as the even "suggest" it... why wait until they order me to do it?) My fin kids, I guess I would have to leave them and hope for the best for them.
I absolutely agree with you on the idea that, if for any reason you cannot provide or take care of your pets, in normal and even in somewhat extraordinary situations, you should not have them. Ever heard of people having 40 of 50 cats? Arghhhh!!
Just like with human children (conceive only as many as you can support and take care of), have only the pets you can reasonably take care of.


33 posted on 09/22/2005 1:27:14 PM PDT by republican4ever (The destiny of Israel marks the destiny of the rest of the world... whether you like it or not!)
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To: cwiz24

Nothing like getting on a bus with Leroy's pit bulls. He trains them to fight but he calls them his pets and after all they dont eat much.Only an arm or a lef at worst. Yes Stoppig a mile out to let Tyrones German Shepherd pee isnt a big deal. Hope no one on the bus is allergic to Ruby's cats. who come up with these crazy ideas? If people who have pets dont have a car thats tough.


34 posted on 09/22/2005 1:27:45 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Huck

I had a guinea pig named Peanut as a kid, looked JUST like the one on the right in your picture. What a blast from the past!

I wouldn't leave my pets (I have a dog) behind if I had to evacuate. But I also wouldn't expect the authorities to do it for me. Part of being a pet owner is making plans to handle situations like that. And if someone tried to force me to leave them they'd end up leaving without me.

LQ


35 posted on 09/22/2005 1:28:09 PM PDT by LizardQueen (The world is not out to get you, except in the sense that the world is out to get everyone.)
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To: BobCNY

The rule for shelters that have pet provisions are simple.

ALL pets must be caged. YOU must bring enough pet food for three days. No food will be provided. There will be no place to exercise the dog, cat or fish. It is a shelter not a vactation resort.

If you have thee dogs then you bring three portable kennels to let the dogs stay contained.

This only points out NO incompetence in preparation that they did not already have this.

This is not a federal issue, this is a local gov COMPETENCE ISSUE.


36 posted on 09/22/2005 1:28:47 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: cwiz24

In an emergency, time and assets are limited. Would people be denied evacuation in favor of pets? By whom and by what criteria would the transport resources be allocated? Would a dog or cat be kicked off a bus to squeeze one more person aboard? Or vice versa? Would the call to load lifeboats become "Women and children and pets first"?
I'll be flamed to a cinder for saying this, but it doesn't sound as though this situation is being taken at all seriously. In a real emergency, choices often sacrifice even human life. I can't believe the emergency workers who were evacuating people left pets behind to be cruel; sometimes choices are finite.


37 posted on 09/22/2005 1:29:29 PM PDT by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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To: cwiz24

This law should ALSO REQUIRE the owners to take their pets and that would FORCE RESPONSIBILITY on those who normally try to evade it.Likewise,those who ignore this law and their pets are rescued should be heavily fined and billed for food,housing and medical care.


38 posted on 09/22/2005 1:30:04 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: cwiz24
For public evacuation, such as city-provided buses, that's one thing. But, many people who evacuated themselves in their family cars still left pets behind because the lodgings they reserved had no-pet policies. It's easy for me to Monday-morning Quarterback, but in that situation, I would have loaded my dog in the car and dealt with it when I got to my destination, rather than leaving the dog behind to fend for himself.

-PJ

39 posted on 09/22/2005 1:30:56 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: bboop

No one said it would be easy. Surely there is something that can be done for animals rather than just leave them in houses and streets to starve to death.


40 posted on 09/22/2005 1:32:45 PM PDT by mel
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