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Allstate won't pay Katrina flood claims
MarketWatch ^ | Sept. 20, 2005 | Alistair Barr

Posted on 09/21/2005 10:01:23 AM PDT by george76

Insurer's operating chief responds to Mississippi suit...

Allstate Corp. won't pay flooding claims stemming from Hurricane Katrina, Chief Operating Officer Tom Wilson said on Tuesday, in a direct challenge to a lawsuit filed last week by Mississippi Attorney General Jim Hood.

Controversy has emerged surrounding the devastating flooding that followed the storm. Standard homeowners' insurance policies typically exclude flooding, partly because a national, government-run program covers those risks. However, many homeowners hit by Katrina may not have bought this extra coverage.

Mississippi's Hood sued Allstate and four other leading insurers in the state on Sept. 16, arguing that their flood exclusions should be voided and that they should pay flood claims.

"Exhibit one for us will be just the national flood-insurance programs -- advertising programs, which they put on very aggressively every year," he said. "People know this is a separate coverage, so we're not having many issues with our customers."

Allstate's Wilson did concede that there will be "issues" when assessing what damage was caused by wind and what was the result of flooding.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: allstate; insurance; katrina; rita
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To: Texas Eagle

IMO, hard to see how Mississippi can win that suit - looks to me the state is trying to jawbone the insurers into more generous payoff under the provisions that do apply (or perhaps that a politician is jsut playing to the voters) also looks like Allstate at least in not gonna' play ball.


41 posted on 09/21/2005 10:14:42 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: Texas Eagle; george76

What's the issue? If they didn't buy the supplemental, then they are out of luck. Am I out of line with that thinking?


42 posted on 09/21/2005 10:14:43 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: george76

I'm not so sure this is as cut and dried as most think. NO flooding due to a levee break is a true flood IMHO. But what about buildings that aren't in a flood plain but were hit by the extraordinary storm surge? Isn't the surge a result of the high winds? I'm not picking sides, but I see the argument.


43 posted on 09/21/2005 10:14:47 AM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: Hurricane Andrew
Maybe they should sue to force Allstate to pay the claims of people who didn't have insurance at all, or might have had their insurance with a different carrier.

Don't give them any ideas.

BTW, I think I'm going to cancel ALL my insurance, who needs it anymore? I'll just hire a lawyer and sue somebody when anything bad happens to me.

*sigh*

44 posted on 09/21/2005 10:15:22 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty hereā€¦ move on.)
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To: eyedigress

You betcha! :-)


45 posted on 09/21/2005 10:15:54 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket ("I don't care what you do, just DON'T throw me into the Breyer patch!" ~John "Brer" Roberts)
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To: george76

I applied for a job at Allstate once. While they did not hire me, they DID take my address off the application and proceed to bombard me with junk mail.


46 posted on 09/21/2005 10:16:00 AM PDT by YourAdHere (Ask me about my book, Bradypalooza.)
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To: george76

Oh my, what will Kanye think!!


47 posted on 09/21/2005 10:16:03 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: IMRight
If the storm pushed a tree into the house, Allstate would have to pay.

If the storm pushed the water into the house through the storm surge, Allstate should pay, unless a rider specifically excludes 'wind driven water' or all water damage.

If it's a levee break or a river flood, then Allstate shouldn't have to pay.

Seems pretty cut and dried to me.

48 posted on 09/21/2005 10:16:18 AM PDT by pierrem15
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To: george76

Allstate doesn't like paying any claims.


49 posted on 09/21/2005 10:16:31 AM PDT by SolarisRocks
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To: Texas Eagle
Ha! We'll see about that.

This is really simple,if the policies in question specifically state that "flood" (my word) damage isn't covered,then that's it.My understanding is that most,if not all,standard homeowner's policies deny coverage for "flood" (again,my word) damage,just as they do with earthquake damage(unless you pay extra and get a rider).

And,BTW...are you the same "Texas Eagle" who once posted to the Fox News Sunday board and was once on Rush's show?

50 posted on 09/21/2005 10:17:16 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: colorado tanker

It's still flooding. Flooding is not covered in these policies, and they didn't want to pay extra for the flood coverage. If I go to a restaurant and pay for a sandwich, does that mean I'm entitled to a steak even so? That's what MS is asking for.


51 posted on 09/21/2005 10:17:29 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: ladtx

Do the math. The insurance company will make 10 times the profit by investing the $2B rather than taking a risk by paying out all that money for good will.


52 posted on 09/21/2005 10:17:49 AM PDT by Ben Mugged
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To: IMRight

But they'll certainly be paying out a lot of "fire" claims from the Katrina stricken region.


53 posted on 09/21/2005 10:18:00 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: george76

Letter to my represenative and senators dated September 9;

Dear ,


The government needs to be compensated by people who intentionally live in disaster prone areas.

Every year there will be earthquakes in earthquake prone areas, there will be floods in areas purposely built and maintained below sea level, and there will be hurricanes in hurricane prone areas.

It is not proper that citizens in other states who purposely chose to live in areas not affected by these natural disasters be required to support the foolish whims and desires of others who want to live in a “beautiful place” that has natural dangers that reoccur.

I request that congress develop laws necessary to impose a “Natural Disaster Surcharge” on the insurance of properties in areas of the country that have been affected by natural disasters requiring federal funds to be spent for ensuing recoveries.

Such a surcharge would compensate the government for funds spent over a period of time and would only be fair for the country as a whole since those wanting to live in a disaster prone area would be required to pay their way for that privilege. This would also allow government to prepare financially for the next natural disaster.




Sincerely,


54 posted on 09/21/2005 10:18:24 AM PDT by Herakles
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To: colorado tanker

Ditto. What do you think of my post #48?


55 posted on 09/21/2005 10:18:35 AM PDT by pierrem15
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To: dfwgator

I think the big stickler will be NOLA. That was flood and anybody in the city that did not have flood insurance was stupid.

If the insurance companies knew the states were going to do this I wonder how many would have dropped those states.


56 posted on 09/21/2005 10:18:38 AM PDT by PeteB570
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To: Perdogg
What's the issue? If they didn't buy the supplemental, then they are out of luck. Am I out of line with that thinking?

Not at all. Allstate's only hope is that this story doesn't get any traction, though. As an Allstate client, I certainly hope it doesn't. No doubt my rates will increase if it is forced to pay.

57 posted on 09/21/2005 10:18:38 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: colorado tanker

I'm with you, I don't have answers only questions. For the people well off of the coast who lost everything to storm surge/wind/whatever, was flood insurance even available to them? Does the gov. offer flood ins. to those outside of flood plains?


58 posted on 09/21/2005 10:18:38 AM PDT by dmz
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To: saveliberty
Allstate has more grounds to sue NO than MS. NO didn't evacuate whereas MS didn't delay.

Huh? Allstate is the one being sued by Mississippi, not the other way around.

59 posted on 09/21/2005 10:18:43 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (We need a strict constructionist - not someone who plays shadow puppet theater with the Constitution)
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To: george76

If you did not have flood ins, then it is your problem, not the insurers problem.


60 posted on 09/21/2005 10:19:19 AM PDT by devane617
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