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NASA Planning Return to Moon Within 13 Years
NY Times ^ | September 20, 2005 | WARREN E. LEARY

Posted on 09/19/2005 9:23:52 PM PDT by neverdem

WASHINGTON, Sept. 19 - Combining an old concept, existing equipment and new ideas, NASA gave shape on Monday to President Bush's promise to send humans back to the Moon by the end of the next decade.

Michael D. Griffin, the agency's new administrator, detailed a $104 billion plan that he said would get astronauts to the Moon by 2018, serve as a steppingstone to Mars and beyond, and stay within NASA's existing budget.

The plan would use a new spacecraft similar to the Apollo command capsule of the original Moon program, and new rockets made up largely of components from the space shuttle program.

"It is very Apollo-like," Dr. Griffin said, "but bigger. Think of it as Apollo on steroids."

The plan drew a mixture of praise and criticism from lawmakers and space experts. [News analysis, Page A15.]

The chairman of the House Science Committee, Representative Sherwood Boehlert, Republican of New York, said it appeared to be "the safest, least expensive and most efficient way" of moving forward in space exploration, but added that current cost overruns in other NASA programs might make it hard to develop the new vehicle on schedule.

The outlines of the plan had been disclosed informally over the last two months by NASA officials and space experts. But Dr. Griffin's announcement laid out a timetable and a budget, putting flesh on the bones of a proposal that Mr. Bush announced in January 2004 but had never described in detail.

Dr. Griffin said that after adjusting for inflation, the program would cost just 55 percent of what it cost to put a dozen men on the lunar surface from 1969 to 1972.

The pay-as-you-go plan, approved by the White House last week, would stay within NASA's $16-billion-a-year budget through a combination of retiring the space shuttle,...

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1 posted on 09/19/2005 9:23:52 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

We won't get moving on this until the Chineese are half way there.


2 posted on 09/19/2005 9:28:54 PM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: neverdem

What the hell for???


3 posted on 09/19/2005 9:30:03 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: clee1

For the adventure and the discovery. For those who aren't inspired by a rejuvenated space program, there will always be reruns of "American Idol."


4 posted on 09/19/2005 9:32:43 PM PDT by My2Cents (The political battles of our day are battles over morality, between the haves and the have nots.)
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To: My2Cents
I just don't see the need, or benefit, in spending 100+ BILLION to go to the moon again.

If the $$$$ must be spent on NASA, spend it on something we haven't done before.

The "American Idol" comment was gratuitous and inane.
5 posted on 09/19/2005 9:35:01 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: My2Cents

American Idol doesn't cost us $100,000,000,000.


6 posted on 09/19/2005 9:37:22 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Hate yourself? Hate everybody else, too? You'll be at home with the Democrats!)
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To: Jalapeno

My money is on the chinese getting there with a lot of dead "Sinonauts" (or whatever they're called). We'll probably beat them though.


7 posted on 09/19/2005 9:38:31 PM PDT by Bogey78O (Live from Hurricane Katrina- Western St. Tammany Division)
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To: clee1
What the hell for???

For hydrogen. There is a lot in the surface material.After transportations, costs, however, the price per gallon may be a bit high.
8 posted on 09/19/2005 9:43:25 PM PDT by microgood
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To: clee1

The "American Idol" comment was gratuitous and inane- but also pretty funny. I think the value of going or not going depends on what we do on the moon. If we're hitting golf balls and picking up nice rocks its a waste. If we getting ready to build a more permanent base - Get the High Ground, amoung other things- then it worth it.


9 posted on 09/19/2005 9:43:32 PM PDT by zadox
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To: neverdem
I'll wager that I will be dead before we put U.S. citizens on on the moon again. And when we do they will be developing an international moon base on my grandchildren dime. As a young man I stupidly thought I'd make it to space one day. Thanks N.A.S.A.

How could an organization turn back the clock on space exploration by fifty years, kill twenty of it's own astronauts when any fool could have prevented it and yet still be the single entity for government funds for space exploration?

Un-friggen believable.
10 posted on 09/19/2005 9:45:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: zadox

Agreed.

If we are going back just to upstage the Chineese, then it falls in the "been there, done that, bought the tee-shirt" category.

If there are valid, and valuable, mission objectives to be accomplished, then I can support it.


11 posted on 09/19/2005 9:54:09 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: neverdem
NASA Planning Return to Moon Within 13 Years

Gotta get there once before you can return. (Everyone, I have my tin foil hat on)

12 posted on 09/19/2005 9:55:48 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: neverdem
What about the space station? What about the whole "space truck" idea that was considered so important for thirty years? What about every other thing NASA has done since 1973?

The answer is, they were all mistakes. Every single thing NASA did since Apollo was a mistake. I find it incredible that NASA spent thirty years wasting time and money for what - for nothing.

The big question is, well, is this just another mistake? I think not, or rather, I hope not. But the only reason I think that is because finally, after thirty wasted years, NASA is simply continuing where it left off in 1973 - as it should have done all along.

13 posted on 09/19/2005 9:56:34 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: clee1
The "American Idol" comment was gratuitous and inane.

It was meant to be insulting.

14 posted on 09/19/2005 9:56:54 PM PDT by My2Cents (The political battles of our day are battles over morality, between the haves and the have nots.)
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To: My2Cents

Since I don't watch American Idol, or any other mass market media pap, I wasn't insulted.

You'll just have to try harder next time.


15 posted on 09/19/2005 9:58:45 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: neverdem

Kucinich: Space Cadet

16 posted on 09/19/2005 10:01:13 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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I just have one question,,,how come it has taken us this long to plan on going to the moon again?


17 posted on 09/19/2005 10:10:57 PM PDT by DrewsMum (Just cause I talk slow don't mean that I am, but then again....)
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To: DrewsMum

I am really looking for someone to please convince me that we did go in the first place,,,,,help please,,,i just don't believe it for the life of me


18 posted on 09/19/2005 10:12:01 PM PDT by DrewsMum (Just cause I talk slow don't mean that I am, but then again....)
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To: neverdem

This is moronic...why are we going back to the moon? If you wanna do something, shoot for Mars.


19 posted on 09/19/2005 10:18:52 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: neverdem

The CEV is completely uninspiring.


20 posted on 09/19/2005 10:27:46 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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