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WOW, President Bush was right again!!! Clinton is going to be sssooo sad!
1 posted on 09/18/2005 10:35:31 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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Bush's fault!


2 posted on 09/18/2005 10:37:26 PM PDT by RWR8189 ( Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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I hope this is true but I'm skeptical. I have a hard time believing Kim Jong Il would give up anything. In fact, the news strikes me as somewhat worrisome (donning tin foil hat - but I do worry if they have missile power sufficient to strike us in HI).


3 posted on 09/18/2005 10:37:43 PM PDT by Spyder
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I'll believe it when it happens, which will be never.

At least the public fires can go out for a day or three.


4 posted on 09/18/2005 10:38:24 PM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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An article:

http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200509/kt2005091914013311950.htm

N. Korea Pledges to Give Up Nuclear Programs

BEIJING _ North Korea has pledged to drop its nuclear weapons development program and return to the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT).
In a joint statement issued here Monday, North Korea promised to give up all nuclear weapons and present nuclear programs and to return to the NPT as soon as possible, while accepting inspections by the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Multilateral negotiators reached an agreement and issued the statement, which calls for North Korea to end its nuclear arms program in exchange for political and economic benefits.

The agreement followed a week of intense negotiations involving the two Koreas, the United States, China, Japan and Russia. This round of talks, the fourth since 2003, opened in Beijing last Tuesday.

China's top envoy to the talks, Wu Dawei, hailed the agreement as "the most successful outcome" ever since the six-nation talks began a year after the dispute erupted in 2002.

All delegates stood up and clapped when Wu made the announcement.

"It was the accomplishment of political efforts of the parties," said South Korea's top nuclear envoy, Song Min-soon. The breakthrough came after the United States softened its stance of opposing North Korea keeping even a civilian nuclear program, citing its past history of diverting research facilities for weapons development in violation of international agreements, including one in 1994.


6 posted on 09/18/2005 10:39:21 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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PING!


8 posted on 09/18/2005 10:40:34 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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N. Korea Pledges to Drop Nuclear Arms Monday, September 19, 2005

BEIJING — North Korea pledged to drop its nuclear weapons development and rejoin international arms treaties in a unanimous agreement Monday with other countries at six-party arms talks. The joint statement was the first ever after more than two years of negotiations.

The North "promised to drop all nuclear weapons and current nuclear programs and to get back to the (Nuclear) Nonproliferation Treaty as soon as possible and to accept inspections" by the International Atomic Energy Agency, according to the agreement by the six countries at the talks.

"All six parties emphasized that to realize the inspectable denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula is the target of the six-party talks," the statement said.

The North and United States also pledged in the agreement to respect each other's sovereignty and right to peaceful coexistence, and also to take steps to normalize relations.

"The United States affirmed that it has no nuclear weapons on the Korean Peninsula and has no intention to attack or invade (North Korea) with nuclear or conventional weapons," according to the statement, assurances echoed by South Korea.

Negotiators agreed to hold more talks in November, where they were expected to move on to concrete discussions about implementing the broad principles outlined in Monday's agreement. The main U.S. envoy, Assistant Secretary of State Christopher Hill, has warned that could still be a long process.

9 posted on 09/18/2005 10:40:47 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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WOW, President Bush was right again!!! Clinton is going to be sssooo sad!

You have no idea HOW SAD.

Part of the deal Bush made was he would immediately send Clinton to North Korea to be Kim Jong Il's sex slave. This is GWB's way of "thanking Clinton for his comments Sunday morning.

13 posted on 09/18/2005 10:45:50 PM PDT by msnimje (Cogito Ergo Sum Republican)
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bttt


14 posted on 09/18/2005 10:48:02 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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See Also: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1487133/posts


16 posted on 09/18/2005 10:51:05 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; piasa; backhoe; Godzilla; All

ping


17 posted on 09/18/2005 10:52:12 PM PDT by Cindy
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COOL rack Dubya hey Jewel it is Bush fault he told Taiblan where to go now Iraq

NOW Chia Pet Kim Jong 11 maybe Kimmy dont' want be so roaney so more

What wrong with your freepers no picture of Chia Pet In Team America SHAME ON YOU LOL!


23 posted on 09/18/2005 11:09:23 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody in, it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"= Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Jewels1091

BS. Pure BS.


24 posted on 09/18/2005 11:09:58 PM PDT by zarf (It's swollen, yes.)
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WOW, President Bush was right again!!!

YES!!

I cant put it into words right now, but the recent events and responses.. I sense.. I hope.. a seismic shift occurring.

caveat.. the battle is never over.

Wolf
26 posted on 09/18/2005 11:11:52 PM PDT by RunningWolf (U.S. Army Veteran.....75-78)
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Hmmm...so it looks like N.Korea has had sufficient time to hide stuff.


27 posted on 09/18/2005 11:14:19 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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GOOD NEWS FOR AMERICA?


"I'm
deeply
saddened"

29 posted on 09/18/2005 11:16:04 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/19/international/asia/19korea.html?hp&ex=1127188800&en=1cab1bb77582f12a&ei=5094&partner=homepage From NTY:

North Korea Says It Will Abandon Nuclear Efforts

By JOSEPH KAHN
Published: September 19, 2005

BEIJING, Monday, Sept. 19 - North Korea agreed Monday to end its nuclear weapons program in return for security, economic and energy benefits, potentially easing tensions with the United States after a two-year standoff over the North's efforts to build atomic bombs.

The United States, North Korea and four other nations participating in negotiations in Beijing signed a draft accord in which the North promised to abandon efforts to produce nuclear weapons and re-admit international inspectors to its nuclear facilities.

Foreign powers said they would provide aid, diplomatic assurances and security guarantees and consider North Korea's demands for a light-water nuclear reactor.

The agreement is preliminary and will require more rounds of negotiations to flesh out because it does not address a range of issues like timing and implementation that are likely to prove contentious. China announced that the nations taking part in the talks would reconvene in November to continue ironing out the details.

Even so, the agreement marks the first time since the United States accused North Korea violating a previous accord in 2002 that the two countries have drawn up a road map for ending their dispute through peaceful means.

It also appears to rescue a diplomatic process that appeared to be on the verge of collapse after multiple rounds of negotiations failed to produce even a joint statement of principles. The Bush administration had said it was prepared to take tougher measures, including freezing North Korean assets abroad and pushing for international sanctions, if the latest round of talks collapsed.

Christopher Hill, the chief American negotiator, had said before the agreement was announced that he was determined to end the discussions and return to Washington. The breakthrough came at the last minute, after American officials had prepared to wrap up the negotiations without an accord.

Progress in the talks may also give the United States and European countries some diplomatic momentum in their negotiations with Iran over its nuclear weapons program, which is not considered as advanced as the North Korean one.

More generally, it would appear to boost support for people inside the Bush administration who favored pursuing laborious negotiations with the North Koreans. Hard-liners in the administration and in Congress had raised questions about the usefulness of negotiations with the North, which they argued had no intention of abandoning its nuclear weapons.

The draft accord commits North Korea to scrap all of its existing nuclear weapons and nuclear production facilities, to rejoin the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, and to readmit international nuclear inspectors. North Korea withdrew from the treaty and expelled inspectors in 2002, after the United States accused it of violating a previous agreement to end its nuclear program.

The United States and North Korea also pledged to respect each other's sovereignty and right to peaceful coexistence and to work toward normalization of relations. The two countries have no full diplomatic relations and did not sign a peace treaty after the Korean War.

Washington declared as part of the agreement that it does not have any nuclear weapons at its bases in South Korea and that it "has no intention to attack or invade the D.P.R.K. with nuclear or conventional weapons." The D.P.R.K. stands for the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, North Korea's formal name.

The accord finessed what had been the biggest sticking point in the latest round of talks - the light-water nuclear reactor - by leaving it to be resolved in future discussions. North Korea demanded throughout the week-long session that the international community agree to provide it with a light-water reactor before it took steps to dismantle its nuclear program.

The United States firmly rejected that demand, though it did not rule out the possibility that the North could retain some kind of civilian nuclear program down the road if it abandoned its weapons program.

The statement said North Korea claimed the right to pursue "peaceful uses of nuclear energy." Mr. Hill said he expected that a light-water reactor would cost $2 billion to $3 billion and would take a decade to build. While a light-water reactor does not produce fuel for atomic weapons the way the North's existing modified-graphite reactors do, American officials have said it still raises proliferation risks and cannot be a first step in arranging the nuclear disarmament of the country.

North Korea has said it requires the new nuclear plant to provide electricity. But Mr. Hill said building a new nuclear plant would be an inefficient way of boosting electricity supplies. He said the North considers a civilian nuclear plant a "trophy."

The draft agreement includes a commitment by South Korea to build power plants and transmission lines to provide the North with two thousand megawatts of electricity, enough to roughly double to total supply of electrical power for its northern neighbor.

Although many details remain unresolved, the accord appears to be a significant victory for China. Beijing brokered the agreement after being the host for multiple rounds of difficult and inclusive talks. It cajoled both the United States and North Korea to continue meeting each other despite repeated threats by both sides to discontinue negotiations.

China has long argued that North Korea's nuclear problems cannot be dealt with through pressure or military force and must be addressed through comprehensive negotiations aimed at addressing the North's full range of concerns.

The Bush administration also overhauled the substance and the style of its approach to North Korea. Officials stopped using the accusatory language President Bush once used when he called North Korea a member of the "axis of evil" and called the nation's leader, Kim Jong Il, a tyrant.

Instead, the Americans have worked closely with South Korea and China to address the North's security and economic concerns and have reassured the North that the United States recognizes it as sovereign. Officials relaxed their stand on the North retaining some kind of peaceful nuclear program, and offered the prospect of normalizing relations with country.

Ultimately, the agreement will still face hurdles, including the degree of intrusiveness of inspections in the closed North Korean state, as well as to scope and nature of any peaceful nuclear program the North is allowed to retain.


33 posted on 09/18/2005 11:22:40 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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This is from the Onion or Scrappleface right?


36 posted on 09/18/2005 11:24:18 PM PDT by garyhope
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From News.google.com

North Korea Says It Will Abandon Nuclear Efforts
New York Times - 37 minutes ago
BEIJING, Monday, Sept. 19 — North Korea agreed to end its nuclear weapons program on Monday morning in return for security, economic and energy benefits, potentially easing tensions with the United States ...
North Korea agrees to give up nuclear programs CTV.ca
US: Agreement in N. Korea talks CNN International
ABC Online - Aljazeera.net - Brisbane Courier Mail - ABC News - all 1,514 related »

37 posted on 09/18/2005 11:25:03 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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Not that anyone will care, but recall during the 2004 Presidential Debates that sKerry lambasted President Bush when the President stated emphatically that multilateral talks between N. Korea, Japan, S. Korea, China, and the U.S. held the greatest hope for success. Kerry essentially challenged the President's manhood, arguing that a true "leader" (like Kerry LOL!) would insist on bilateral talks between the U.S. and North Korea only.

The President was right again.


38 posted on 09/18/2005 11:27:16 PM PDT by Roberts
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Actually, this sounds exactly like the Clinton-style deals of the 90s. Bush wants to rack up some easy diplomacy points, while accomplishing nothing.


41 posted on 09/18/2005 11:29:06 PM PDT by billybudd
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