Posted on 09/18/2005 9:23:33 PM PDT by MarIboro
In San Diego, deployment shut down over concern for safety for volunteers
A group called Gente Unita confronted volunteer border watchers in San Diego yesterday with obscenities, shoving and U.S. flag desecration, causing Friends of the Border to abandon a planned deployment and an apology by the group's leader for not having police protection for senior citizen and other members of the group.
Andy Ramirez, chairman of Friends of the Border, said he was concerned about the safety of his volunteers.
"Safety comes first, even before our primary mission to help the Border Patrol secure our border with Mexico," he said.
One eyewitness told WND he saw members of Gente Unita assault four members of the border-watch group, including organizer Capt. Drew Johnson, a retired Navy officer.
"Gente Unita stole an American flag, ripped from its staff and trampled it, as captured on film by cameraman Larry Morgan," said Roger Canfield, a former Republican congressional candidate.
The confrontation began when border volunteers were checking in at a card table for a training session, Canfield said.
"Shouting obscenities and slogans, Gente Unita shoved, jostled, and twice pushed their way into the center in 32 minutes of disorderly conduct as also witnessed by center staff and others at the center to take a state notary exam," Canfield said.
One man allegedly shouted, "We''re going to shut you the f--- down," in the face of several volunteers.
Others, he said, broke off from the group to attack the check-in table located, under a flag pole. While the larger group was charging the entryway of the Scottish Rite Center, two others grabbed a U.S. flag on a wooden staff, a confidential list of names, knocked over the table, knocked a hat off Johnson and roughed up volunteer Beverly Crawford.
The border watchers called 9-1-1 when the confrontation began, but San Diego police did not respond for about 20 minutes, according to Canfield.
Two members of Gente Unita were taken into custody, but were released shortly thereafter.
The Gente Unita activists arrived on the scene dressed in red and black, according to witnesses.
"We did not cross over the border, their border crossed over us," they chanted.
One of the protesters threatened Ramirez with a future "firefight" along the border.
Ramirez said his training session emphasized no conflict, no arms and no provocation. The border watchers, like their allies in the Minuteman organization, seek to monitor the border and report illegal activity directly to U.S. Border Patrol officials.
He apologized to his volunteers yesterday for not notifying law enforcement officials in advance of the training session.
"For this, I apologize to each of our volunteers who were personally assaulted, especially the captain, who is a man that everyone in my organization respects immensely, and cares about," Ramirez said. "No veteran of the U.S. armed services should ever have to be confronted by what several cowards did to our fellow citizen and friend. I also apologize to the San Diego Police Department."
He described the Gente Unita group as an "angry mob."
"An American flag was immediately desecrated by being torn away from our volunteers, off its pole, and onto the ground where it was stomped on and kicked," he said. "This vile act was committed by an individual who had concealed his face from cameras. We do have video footage, which was released by the volunteer to the media and shown in San Diego on their television newscasts. Individuals on tape were also assaulting and battering a number of senior citizens."
He added: "The protesters stalked our volunteers around the site, screamed in their ears, were cursed at, physically assaulted and battered, trespassed on private property, and participated in crimes of hate and acts of terrorism."
Damned hate-filled racists on the rampage.
There are more creative responses than violence. I just said that videotaping and complaining to Rush are not enough. The key is not violence, but thinking outside the box. And going for the jugular, figuratively speaking.
I understand your point, but don't have any ideas.
If they were truely "vigilantes", a few of these folks would have ended up in the morgue.
I don't believe we do have the balls. I think we could gone on like this for a long time before you see a drastic change in life style. This country will either end up like Mexico(full of crime) or another war between the states.
Fox is sending his people out to keep border open and his buddies drugs flowing.
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I agree. Firearms. And webcam. The police were absolutely useless:
"Two members of Gente Unita were taken into custody, but were released shortly thereafter."
Caught on video? So what?
The barbarians are inside the gates!
This is not the attitude of people wanting to work and improve their lives. These are looters!
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Thank you for your service to our country.
IF "American citizens" involved in that group, these specific actions, I'm assuming they are anchor babies grown a few years and/or the children of illegals who arrived here and who benefitted from the generous amnesty of years earlier. Or else, they're NOT "American citizens" but just people parked in the country like so many other millions, proud in their confidence that they're not going to be penalized because they, and/or their parents, are here illegally.
Unless the individuals have been identified, I'm assuming they are just being assumed to be "American citizens" but simply because their group is now situated in Denver, CO and they are waging some international group of muck on Yahoo does not assign American citizenship to them.
Based upon how they behaved (articles for the event posted here), I doubt they are American citizens by choice or decision, either -- perhaps some are, some aren't, not the point because it's not provable without benefit of identifying who the people were/are who were those protesting the anti-illegal-immigration movement -- but by how they behaved, it seems they are more intersted in anarchy and self indulgence than any concept of civic honor or responsibility.
The police response being so late, the lack of intervention here...you can nearly always tell where a city government's head is by the way the local force behaves and how they withhold or provide service and to whom.
San Diego, in my experience, is another San Francisco or at least wants to be and is sure trying to be anything but a part of the United States. A lot of very rough, bad people in that area (apologies to the good ones, but these are my experiences recently).
I think what's taken and is continuing to take place in California is that most middle class (and predominantly white, a reality here) residents/citizens have left or are in the process of leaving areas like San Diego, San Francisco, Los Angeles (the last two, nearly most have already left) in CA for other areas inland and north or to other states and the large, coastal cities in CA have become worse than ever, with either the very rich, celebrity driven types remaining among the predominantly illegal groups sympathetic to Mexico and communism.
The state of CA, I dunno, but it's luster, it can only go so long being majority union, illegal immigrants, poverty endorsing areas and gay parading neighborhoods, before it'll lose whatever saving graces it ever had.
It just seems to me more and more that what liberalism is, particularly here (CA) and in other coastal, mostly urban areas in the U.S., is devoted to negativity of anything that the United States was founded upon to create. Otherwise, I haven't a clue.
Thanks Ron.
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Date: 19 SEP 2005 12:30 p.m.
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Instead we have a handful of patriots and a majority of cowardly paid-off politicians.
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