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Woman in power is powerless when it comes to meeting men
http://www.mcall.com/ ^ | September 17, 2005 | Amy Alkon

Posted on 09/17/2005 6:59:48 AM PDT by teldon30

Dear Amy: I'd like to be in a relationship again, but I never even get asked out (unless you count frisky 85-year-olds and drunks at the corner bar). I'm a 32-year-old woman who's happy, sociable, and attractive. (I paid for college by modeling and continue to take care of myself.) I'm second-in-command at a big company, financially secure, and own a beautiful home. How can I meet men in general, and more specifically, men I'd actually want to date?

Deluxe Chopped Liver

Dear Deluxe: To scare away vampires, it takes garlic and crosses, which make ugly bulges in sleek, satin evening bags. Luckily, all you have to do to scare away men is pull out a business card that says ''senior vice president.''

''Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac,'' said Henry Kissinger. Sure it is — unless you're a woman. Research by Stephanie L. Brown and Brian P. Lewis, published in Evolution and Human Behavior (Nov. '04), seems to confirm what many lonely women at the top already know: When guys go for the woman in the boardroom, it isn't the woman running the meeting but the secretary who wheeled in the coffee and croissants before it started.

Sure, plenty of men will scamper up the corporate ladder for a one-night stand. But, according to Brown and Lewis' study, men looking for dates or relationships tend to prefer their subordinates to their colleagues or bosses. The researchers hypothesize that men evolved to want women they can control as a means of guarding against ''parental uncertainty'' — unwittingly raising kids fathered by the Neanderthal next door as their own. Brown and Lewis think this may also explain why men are suckers for ''behavioral expressions of vulnerability'' — women who act like they might not be able to make it across the street

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To: SauronOfMordor

A little effort goes a long way in a marriage. It is showing that you care and know that good and bad you are in this world together. Beauty is a quality of soul not a quality of face. My husband and I have a joke expression
to describe the ideal woman.
" Strong like ox, beautiful like tractor"


402 posted on 09/17/2005 10:47:54 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: All

hasn't anybody noticed that "chopped liver" wants a "relationship"? She does not indicate marriage, she does not indicate a desire for children (her clock may have rung).

She may just want a "booty call 'relationship'" where she can have a boyfriend/sex partner once a month or less. Perhaps a warm male body she can bring to company functions in order to combat rumors that she is unmarried because she is a homosexual.

She may even be NOT wanting marriage. It does not say. For all we know she could be the poster child for "die alone with 20 cat" feminists.


403 posted on 09/17/2005 10:49:27 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: girlangler

"I certainly wasn't talking about a man in charge being one who mistreats a woman -- just the opposite."


Agreed and understood, I knew that, Dear. ;^)


404 posted on 09/17/2005 10:49:45 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: LaineyDee

Seriously,
HD and Lowe's are NOT bad places to hang out...
the key word being HANG out.

If you're in there with a serious list trying to get home to fix that major wiring issue before the compressor is toast, flirting isn't very likely. And you see lots of guys with the same agendas....they've got things to do, places to go etc.

So going with a 'Gee, I wonder if they have any new blades down in the Chop Saw section" attitude is a good.....especially with the afterwork, "Mebby I need a new saw" crowd.


405 posted on 09/17/2005 10:52:10 AM PDT by najida (So, I said to myself -Self, I really think shrimp heads in the flower pots as compost is a bit much!)
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To: Sisku Hanne

LIke when you hear that saying "Marilyn Monroe said Einstein was one of the sexist men she ever met".

Uhh-huhhh, nice.....
but when we return from fanstasyland, in reality

she dated and married pro-athletes, hollywood moguls, and banged a married JFK.



406 posted on 09/17/2005 10:52:30 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican
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To: Dr. Arual

I love a man who knows when to keep quiet! LOL


407 posted on 09/17/2005 10:53:33 AM PDT by apackof2 (Never underestimate the power of a fuzzy friend!)
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To: latina4dubya
so how does this corporate warrior princess go about bagging this accomplished fella?.. or go about letting him bag her?

I sat behind a woman who sounds just like the subject of the post on an airplane yesterday. She was fortyish, very corporate-looking, very slim and attractive, she might have even been a conservative (at one point, she complained about how much money the government was going to be spending to rebuild New Orleans). But she spent a good part of the trip complaining to the (unfortunate) sixtyish, married man seated next to her about how hard a time she was having finding anyone to marry. She spoke of going on a lot of dates with a lot of men she liked and thought were very nice, but apparently for some reason they never seemed to want to follow up and take the relationship further.

From what I could observe:

1) She was a motormouth. She never stopped talking and was sharing an awful lot of personal information early on with someone she had just met.

2) She apparently works in sales - and was in "sales" mode during the entire conversation. She wore me out, and I wasn't even talking to her.

3) She had just a touch of the wild-eyed, desperate, Nancy Pelosi look.

4) She apparently travels on business much of the time.

5) She sounded absolutely convinced that she still had time to have children (I seriously doubt it) - though the subtext was clear: she would have to start almost immediately with any man she chose to marry.

Any of the five is a deal-killer on a first date. If she was sharing all of this in an hour and a half with a man she had just met, how much worse would she be on a date? It's obvious what her problem is - but it's unlikely she'll be able to remedy it in time to accomplish her goal.

408 posted on 09/17/2005 10:54:02 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: dinok

"These woman are so used to bossing people around they don't know how to turn it off."

This is true, my Wife is one of those women. She eventually made more money than me in our relationship and I noticed her becoming more aggressive and bossy. She worked with mostly men, so I felt like she had to be that way. I'm not a macho type of guy, so it did'nt bother me too much. I just told her to save that attitude for the office and everythings been cool since then.


409 posted on 09/17/2005 10:54:06 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: MadIvan

I've learned never to underestimate what a woman thinks she's entitled to...


410 posted on 09/17/2005 10:55:40 AM PDT by papertyger ("ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge" ... Charles Darwin)
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To: LaineyDee
it would be someone's hubby out with a honey-do list in hand. SIGH.

After he ran into some of his neighbors in the check-out line and starting visiting with them, his obviously annoyed wife marched into the store, quite loudly demanded to know what the h$ll is taking so long.

411 posted on 09/17/2005 10:56:29 AM PDT by pigsmith
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To: girlangler
"Get your biscuits in the oven and your buns in bed"

Texas Candidate for Governor, Kinky Friedman

412 posted on 09/17/2005 10:57:41 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: teldon30
Vanity, vanity, all is vanity.

Dear Amy and Deluxe Chopped Liver,

This quote explains both of your problems:
"I'm a 32-year-old woman who's happy, sociable, and attractive. (I paid for college by modeling and continue to take care of myself.) I'm second-in-command at a big company, financially secure, and own a beautiful home."

You are shallow, materialistic, and ruled by extrinsic gains. You wonder why you have trouble meeting men? It is because you are only trying to meet A man. You've set forth no intrinsic qualities that you are looking for in a good man. Men can sense this easily. Only those that are looking for a one-nighter respond to this type.

Women are foolish to believe good men are intimidated by women with corner-office careers. We are not. We find something tragic in those adults (men and women) who are still on the merry-go-round clutching for the brass ring when life offers so much more of lasting, intrinsic quality. If you have an important job in a company and like it, that's fine. If you are ruled by it and believe it defines you, you are lost.

Good men, family men, know how critical the family is. Yes, men and women want a partner who is faithful, but more than that they want a partner who willfully and equally shares in that vital responsibility of raising children well. This is not a concern for the bloodline but of the heart, soul, and mind.

Chopped Liver, you need shock treatment to start your heart beating sympathetically. I suggest you volunteer some of your free time (that you evidently spend at bars) working with children with terminal illness, tending to the home-bound, serving at a VA hospital, or caring for the elderly. This may help convince you of life's fragility, of how precious it is simply to be alive (regardless of the job, house, or skin wrapper), and open your heart to seeking a good man, rather than one that simply isn't "intimidated" by your attainments and vanity.
413 posted on 09/17/2005 10:59:22 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: squidcakes
I had nearly the identical experience the other day in the tool section at Lowe's.

A hardware store gives you the perfect opening: ask him for help! There isn't a man in the world who won't jump at the chance to help an attractive woman with something within his realm of competence. ;)

414 posted on 09/17/2005 10:59:34 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: squidcakes

Seeeeeeeeeeeeee?? I don't date "husbands". You can find all those guys over at the dating sites. lol


415 posted on 09/17/2005 11:01:10 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Blurblogger

Monica debased herself.


416 posted on 09/17/2005 11:01:56 AM PDT by pissant
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To: apackof2
Basically, it's one thing to win over a a person of the opposite sex, and another to keep them.

The secret to keeping them is easier than the secret to winning them over. Basically, behave in a way that makes them want to stay with you. The secret to winning them is related to that, but includes a lot more, and the guidelines for women are a lot different than the guidelines for men.

The thing with very successful women is that they have severe career related time demands. Basically, us men like to have our women around: it's one thing if we have time demands, women are expected to tolerate it. Most men have no interest in humoring crazy time demands of his woman, though.

Working late at the office 6x a week? Ordering out dinner at the firm again to work on a Summary Judgment motion all night, the one that your bosses will not be pleased with anyway? And who do you think is going to hear all about it - the boss or the boyfriend? Going to White Plains, NY for a 10 week trial with the case team? Most men have no interest in having an absentee mate.

Here's the wrinkle: many women find power and success attractive in a man and have the maturity to realize that that necessarily includes some career related time commitments. They can handle that. Men don't find power and success nearly as attractive in a woman, so they have no upside to dealing with those time commitments.

I never understood why so many women were displeased with this dynamic. They get to have and enjoy the career they always wanted and find success. A lot of us men get to keep them alone and date more compatible women. Everyone should be happy.
417 posted on 09/17/2005 11:02:41 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: MadIvan
I recently encountered a lady who told me in no uncertain terms that she was expecting a Dior watch, trips to exotic places and to be "treated like a princess" as part of a relationship.

Welcome to Fantasy Island, sweetie! :-)

418 posted on 09/17/2005 11:03:54 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: HitmanNY

You summed it up very well. bump.


419 posted on 09/17/2005 11:06:18 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: LaineyDee
I would prefer an emotionally strong man that can take charge as needed...

In my experience, women define "take charge as needed" as "take charge when I don't want to..."

420 posted on 09/17/2005 11:08:28 AM PDT by papertyger ("ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge" ... Charles Darwin)
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