Posted on 09/10/2005 11:46:13 AM PDT by pcottraux
You know 'em, you love 'em. Just about all of us have clashed with 'em at times. What's more, it's fun to bust and get rid of them, and that helps make FR even more exciting.
But why do they do it? Why do liberals--and they're usually far-left ones--come here and put on phony screen names so they can "infiltrate" this right-wing forum? They seem to have a tendency to make outrageous statements that get them busted the same day they join. What are they trying to accomplish?
Just yesterday, after one of them made an obvious statement, I caught onto him. He started making insane left-wing rants, before I reported him, and he vanished. It was fun to imagine the little wuss screaming in pain as he was busted and yanked. After he was gone, and all his comments replaced by “Comment Removed” messages, I made a statement on the stupidity of these people, blowing their own cover right after they join. What kind of espionage is that?
But then, ANOTHER one came in, and had this to say before he, too, was yanked:
“Yeah, those trolls are seriously brain dead. They are so caught up in that so-called ‘freedom of speech thing’ that they don't know how to watch what they say when talking to us Republicans that are able to remove their thoughts when we disagree with them. Gosh, they are so silly!”
Fortunately, this troll is also no longer with us, at least not under the same screen name. But upon reading his statement here, a realization comes. THAT’S IT! This comment helps get to the heart of the DU trolls’ mindset, and exactly what it is they’re doing—or trying to do. Hopefully, some of them here will read this, and realize how futile their efforts are.
Basically, DU trolls like the one who made the above statement are classic examples of people suffering what I call LNM, or Liberal Narcissistic Martyrdom. This is a common mental ailment of left-wingers. In essence, it involves a self-image of being a “heroic rebel against the system” who “dares to stand up for what they believe in.” In an egotistical way, they envision themselves as “underdogs” who are in a perpetual state of “standing up to fight the corporate system.” They are ALWAYS standing up against this system, or some proverbial system.
Michael Moore, or at least the public image he makes of himself, is a classic example of this. Actually, one of the best examples I can think of is famed hippy doctor Patch Adams. His movie about himself, starring Robin Williams, is a complete show of just what an egotistical blowhard a liberal can be when he envisions himself “standing up to fight the system” at all times, under all circumstances. I assume that “Patch Adams” is a favorite movie among sufferers of LNM, because it is exactly how they fantasize their own lives being.
Look at the statement the DU troll made. “Yeah, those trolls are seriously brain dead. They are so caught up in that so-called ‘freedom of speech thing’…” Here, he/she/it is showing the biggest symptom of LNM…the conviction that one’s freedom of speech is being taken away, when it is not. Liberals are caught up in their first amendment rights—they’re not caught up in any other constitutional rights, like the right to bear arms, but they love that first one. And many of them, especially those with LNM, are convinced that that sacred right is going to be taken away from them when “America descends into a dictatorship.” They think Bush is Hitler, and those of us on FR are Nazis. Therefore, they think a totalitarian government is going to steal their first amendment rights. Never mind that as left-wingers, they are campaigning for more power to the government, anyway.
And that, my friends, is why these people come here under various guises. They WANT their freedom of speech taken. It gives them a Martyr Ego Boost. They crave it. So they come here, put in a phony screen name, and start spouting left-wing doctrines. As this clown sarcastically put it: “they don't know how to watch what they say when talking to us Republicans that are able to remove their thoughts when we disagree with them.” See what I mean? They seek PROOF that they’re losing their free speech, so when they get yanked from this site, it makes them feel like righteous martyrs. They get the Martyr Rush. It’s almost like drug addiction.
They’ve lived comfortably in America their whole lives, considering their dissent to show how righteous they are, and any criticism of that dissent is seen as “freedom being lost.”
The problem is that FreeRepublic.com is not a debate forum, at least not for right vs. left. There are other web forums for that. FR is a right-wing/grassroots conservatism forum. If we let one liberal stay here and debate us, then we have to let them all. Then, this is no longer a right-wing forum. So their thesis that “Republicans and Conservatives are eliminating people who disagree with them” is pretty much a dead point.
Of course, these wienies don’t know the meaning of losing free speech. They’ve never lived under a communist regime before. They should go over to North Korea and live under Kim Jong Il’s iron grip awhile. When their hands are cut off for speaking out against the government, or their tongues gouged out, or they’re skinned alive…then they’ll know what it REALLY means to lose freedom. I’ll bet the typical sufferer of LNM couldn’t stand five minutes of what Saddam Hussein’s victims had to endure. They’d come running back to the American Bush “dictatorship,” crying like babies, for sure.
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RU a newbie?
"-- 2) In the same spirit as a schoolboy, traveling in a moving bus, shouts obscenities at passerbys."
At first, I was going to say, "I can't believe they would be that immature," but then again, look at my suggestion. You have a point.
Me, I'm just always trying to get into people's minds, and figure out what they're thinking, and why. I can't help it. Maybe I have some weird mental problem, too :)
Thanks.
I can't believe I never noticed that thing.
In the case of DUers, I would say that they're trying to show that they're so much smarter than we are. That's what they believe.
Sent you a private mail message...I'm getting ready for my first anniversary.
I had to ask someone, too.
I am a newbie as of yesterday with a demonstrated Conservative blog. I have also posted about the link between Liberals and Narcissism. My research supports your findings.
I came across Pukin' Dog's Open Letter to the Liberals and have been a FReeper in my heart since.
Welcome to FR! If you watch TV, you'll sometimes think this is the last sane place on earth.
Thanks. I feel right at home. We watch a lot of Law and Order and CSI. I know how to kill 1000 ways and get caught.
"I have also posted about the link between Liberals and Narcissism. My research supports your findings."
Alright. I was just telling what I thought about them. Glad there's research to support it.
A new tagline I need.
Yeah, I think Pukin' Dog says something about the guys at the top (Clinton, Teddy...) believing in nothing because they are Narcissists. Your comments about their secret desire for punishment fits with the reading on the subject I've done. They are strange birds because they actually loathe themselves. Study them a lot and you may come to pity them as I do.
Dear P
Your little essay was very satisfying and NOBODY CARES if it was a vanity post or a fence post, it was first-rate Freeper fare.
The subject of "why do the lefties think the way they do" is endlessly fascinating.
Regards,
L
I have a theory that liberals are just plain starved for attention. Who else but someone dying to be noticed would make of themself such an obnoxious annoying fool as a liberal does???
Thank you very much. I agree that it is endlessly fascinating.
My personal theory of liberal (not)thought:
Unlike my great-uncle Zack, they're just a LITTLE bit crazy.
Many, if not most, of the troll posts are by the same moron.
I hate to keep bringing up Pukin' Dog, but his rant More Cheese for the Rats does a good job of explaining the subject. In fact, I've learned more about Libs reading him than from anyone in a long time. You're also doing a good job.
Why do you have a copyright symbol after your tagline?
Are you a troll giving other trolls lessons on how to get in under the radar? Kidding...or am i? :-)
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